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    Default Re: HTTR24-7:Interview Transcript W/ Michael Lombardi 11/14/12..

    I don't see how anyone can see that the current regime isn't in a mess right now. Not only do you not have the confidence of ppl in the office, but you also have coaches fighting like *******.

    The same drama still exists at Redskins Park. It never goes away. Ever.

    I understand why ppl choose to keep their head in the sand. We've been ****** over so much that we just want to believe that this is where the change comes. I tried that route but now, it's obvious that nothing has changed except we are younger and have a star in QB who will have to be superman every week for this team to ever make something of itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    I obviously was not there but have heard that Snyder/Shanahan incident did happen.

    What I think should happen?

    I think Snyder should use his money to have the best personnel and training department money can buy. I think Bruce should vacate the GM title and do the same work he is doing under a different title. Hire a true hot GM prospect ( Not a retread ) and then allow him to find the right coach ( Not a retread) .. We need guys leading this team who have that burning desire to be great and that usually comes from unproven commodities trying to make a name for themselves.

    Then I would let my state of the art personnel department go to work and see what happens..
    My 2 cents on this is I would give Mike another offseason and next season under the current structure - it may be throwing good time after bad but I think we need to show patience. If we are not better than .500 though next year then I'd be in board with your plan even if it meant taking another step back to move forwards.

    I do think that having a Head Coach who is also the de facto GM is almost always a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    Personnel department.. Does anyone really think it is a bad idea for Dan to spend wildly into the areas of the team that do not have a salary cap ? I see no downfall in doing so.
    I think the practice bubble was the first sign of Dan realizing that there are more "toys" to be had in this league than players. The players and coaches love the bubble, and there is no doubt that it contributed to the win in New Orleans and has contributed to less embarrassing press releases like "Redskins practice at Dulles Airport Hanger," etc.

    I don't doubt that he will spend on this type of thing if it's brought up to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post

    I think what LL and even Lombardi are eluding too throughout this interview, is, do you think Mike is the guy that you want here for a 10 year run with RG3? Is it Kyle? If the answer is no... you have to make the move now. Get a guy in here that you want to make a run, Make Bruce the President of the team... he can organize the homecomings, etc, Dan can sign the checks, and let's either promote Morroco Brown or get another guy in here from another organization who is ready to evaluate talent and do less with more.
    I hate this feeling, but its something i can't shake. However i can't help but to feel ^^ THIS way. I'm still holding out the little hope i have, but deep down, i don't see things improving the way its currently constructed.
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    Default Re: HTTR24-7:Interview Transcript W/ Michael Lombardi 11/14/12..

    Only the Redskins could take such a gifted player in RGIII and still be a total debacle of an organization.

    In a way, I'm glad I tempered my hope and optimism. Griff is stuck in a **** situation, and I feel bad for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    I think Snyder should use his money to have the best personnel and training department money can buy. I think Bruce should vacate the GM title and do the same work he is doing under a different title. Hire a true hot GM prospect ( Not a retread ) and then allow him to find the right coach ( Not a retread) .. We need guys leading this team who have that burning desire to be great and that usually comes from unproven commodities trying to make a name for themselves.
    This is exactly what I believe should be the next step once you give up on Shanahan!

    Snyder works with Allen on PR and very high-level football visionary items. Allen hires a GM (or promotes someone like Brown) and works with that guy to revamp the personnel department. Then, they find a coach. I would be so excited to have that type of setup!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinC View Post
    My 2 cents on this is I would give Mike another offseason and next season under the current structure - it may be throwing good time after bad but I think we need to show patience. If we are not better than .500 though next year then I'd be in board with your plan even if it meant taking another step back to move forwards.

    I do think that having a Head Coach who is also the de facto GM is almost always a bad idea.
    I should of been clear.. I'm not in favor of firing Mike Shanahan this offseason.. Once Shanahan is done then I would do what I posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    I think the practice bubble was the first sign of Dan realizing that there are more "toys" to be had in this league than players. The players and coaches love the bubble, and there is no doubt that it contributed to the win in New Orleans and has contributed to less embarrassing press releases like "Redskins practice at Dulles Airport Hanger," etc.

    I don't doubt that he will spend on this type of thing if it's brought up to him.
    Dan wanted to build the bubble for awhile but Gibbs and Zorn said they didn't need it. Gibbs won three titles practicing in " Redskins Weather" , Zorn well you know the rest.

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    Default Re: HTTR24-7:Interview Transcript W/ Michael Lombardi 11/14/12..

    I've been saying for years if you stink in the draft room you stink on the field. Scouting is the way you build a winner and there's absolutely no way around that.

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    As one of the most valuable franchises in sports, it only seems logical for Dan to spend money for the best (GM/coach/training staff/scouting department/facilities/etc).

    He finally backed off of the "young owner" stuff, stopped playing fantasy owner and all that. Is it too much to ask for him to take the next step, and truly invest in the guts/foundation of this team?

    I feel like he owes us that much.

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    After the Giants game, ES posters and media talking heads were high on the future of the Redskins. Even the Giants players themselves were amazed with the direction this team is going. Now after three losses, the fans, media, owner, team officials, etc are looking for answers or fingers to point.

    I still have faith in this team, while not good they still have some nice pieces other teams would kill for. Perhaps we are just in a rough patch and the bye week was what we needed to get back on track? Or perhaps this team really is bad and we are confronted with the same ole same ole from 2009. Only time and on field performance(s) will tell.

    If the Redskins suck it up against the Fecals and Cowturds then I may join in on the which hunt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    If a team is winning then yes a lot of this stuff doesn't get talked about we all know that. Analysts and fans question winning teams by asking if the success is sustainable while losing teams get critiqued from top to bottom. Piling on ? no I wouldn't say that at all bro. The message sucks but unfortunately its a pretty accurate one.

    As far as the " excuses" comments.. Mike Tomlin " Excuses are the tools of the incompetent"

    I agree the NFL screwed the Redskins with the timing of the cap penalty and imposing penalties at all BUT the reality is they happened. I can't blame Bruce and Mike for trying to gain cap space under the premiss of a" uncapped season" but if they were told to not do this and did so anyway then they take some ownership in it. Had they just left the deals as is they could/would of planned 2010,2011,and 2012 offseasons around Haynesworth and Halls money coming out as scheduled. That would of lead to better planning, building, and no surprise sanction on the eve of free agency. The cap peenalty as a crutch for building is a tough battle and one that could go both ways so i don't really count that anymore.

    Personnel department.. Does anyone really think it is a bad idea for Dan to spend wildly into the areas of the team that do not have a salary cap ? I see no downfall in doing so.
    Has this idea even been bought up to Dan? Isn't that the job of Morrocco Brown oversee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    If a team is winning then yes a lot of this stuff doesn't get talked about we all know that. Analysts and fans question winning teams by asking if the success is sustainable while losing teams get critiqued from top to bottom. Piling on ? no I wouldn't say that at all bro. The message sucks but unfortunately its a pretty accurate one.

    I don't think it's an accurate one. If it was accurate we'd have been hearing it all along. Two losses and a lot of frustration later, now it's considered truth? I'm not buying it. Losses are tough and they put everything into question. No man is bullet proof, so I understand that things should be questioned. But, at some point, it becomes exaggerated.

    As far as the " excuses" comments.. Mike Tomlin " Excuses are the tools of the incompetent"
    Ugh, I get so tired of these sayings. I get it. I believe that as well. However, one should understand these axioms and wisdoms within their context. Sometimes in life, things happen that have a negative effect that is not in your hands. And they ARE legitimate reasons.

    Does Mike Tomlin tell one of his injured players that it's an excuse for him not to get on the field? Where do you draw the line of what is an excuse trying to limit your responsibility versus one that is true?

    I agree the NFL screwed the Redskins with the timing of the cap penalty and imposing penalties at all BUT the reality is they happened. I can't blame Bruce and Mike for trying to gain cap space under the premiss of a" uncapped season" but if they were told to not do this and did so anyway then they take some ownership in it. Had they just left the deals as is they could/would of planned 2010,2011,and 2012 offseasons around Haynesworth and Halls money coming out as scheduled. That would of lead to better planning, building, and no surprise sanction on the eve of free agency. The cap peenalty as a crutch for building is a tough battle and one that could go both ways so i don't really count that anymore.

    Yes, the reality is THEY HAPPENED. The reality. The truth. An undeniable fact. And, no, they don't take ownership in it because they did something within the rules and went against being told they couldn't. Even if they do, the other outcome was that we'd be stuck with massive cap issues because of the idiotic move of signing Haynesworth to a back-loaded contract. So, you see, we were screwed either way and tried to get out of it. We tried to get out of it the right way, and still got screwed.

    There is no amount of overlooking or justifying that will change the truth of how bad this penalty affected us. We sound all mighty and righteous when we call it "excuses" and come up with wonderful sayings about the evils of excuse-making, but it doesn't matter. The truth is the truth.

    Personnel department.. Does anyone really think it is a bad idea for Dan to spend wildly into the areas of the team that do not have a salary cap ? I see no downfall in doing so.
    Completely agree with this, however, very little of this was spoken before and even during this season. Now it's just coming out that are scouting department sucks? A lot of the players we've drafted under Mike haven't had that long to develop, especially considering the lockout, so I'm willing to be a bit more patient with them. I am certainly NOT going to judge everyone after a couple of bad losses. I know, I know, Mike is 14-27 and it's not just this year, right? Well, the problem with that is everyone was so high on our scouting department this offseason even with the previous seasons taken into account. We all knew our limitations as a team before this offseason and we all knew how badly the cap penalty affected us. We all also acknowledged how the culture has changed and how many young players with good potential we brought in. Now, suddenly, that's crap?

    Again, I'm not going to change my whole perception of this rebuild and where it's going because of two bad losses.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Shanahan
    "I knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. One thing I told Dan Snyder was: ‘If you don't plan on me being here for five years to do this the right way, then you shouldn't hire Mike Shanahan. But I'm going to do it the right way... But if you're going to ask me to take shortcuts, I'm not going to take shortcuts. I'm going to do it the right way.' And he said he would. And when we do have this thing turned around, people will see it, and say, ‘Oh my God, that's the way you do it.' "

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    I think what LL and even Lombardi are eluding too throughout this interview, is, do you think Mike is the guy that you want here for a 10 year run with RG3? Is it Kyle? If the answer is no... you have to make the move now. Get a guy in here that you want to make a run, Make Bruce the President of the team... he can organize the homecomings, etc, Dan can sign the checks, and let's either promote Morroco Brown or get another guy in here from another organization who is ready to evaluate talent and do less with more.

    Quote Originally Posted by TD_washingtonredskins View Post
    Snyder works with Allen on PR and very high-level football visionary items. Allen hires a GM (or promotes someone like Brown) and works with that guy to revamp the personnel department. Then, they find a coach. I would be so excited to have that type of setup!
    I've heard this sentiment a quite a few times around here, but how do we know Morocco isn't part of the problem? If I understand correctly (and I'm simplifying the process here), he gets all the info together on pro and college players, gives Shanahan a list of "good" players, and then Shanahan makes the ultimate decision. How do we know Shanahan hasn't just been given bad info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Jumbo View Post
    I've heard this sentiment a quite a few times around here, but how do we know Morocco isn't part of the problem? If I understand correctly (and I'm simplifying the process here), he gets all the info together on pro and college players, gives Shanahan a list of "good" players, and then Shanahan makes the ultimate decision. How do we know Shanahan hasn't just been given bad info?
    It's certainly possible. We heard during the Vinny era that other teams were impressed with Brown (and Scott Campbell). My point isn't necessarily that we SHOULD promote Brown, just that it's an option. I want them to have the best GM possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llevron View Post
    It gets old seeing people critique the sames things over and over but take none of the causes into effect. You don't expect a defense that already had problems to lose its starting safety tandem, starting DE and its best pass rusher and look like a good defense.

    You don't expect a team low on draft picks and hit with a mysterious - day before free agency - 36 million dollar fine to be able to go out and just 'find' talent laying in wait.

    No the team is not great but the circumstances around it don't lend itself to any kind of magical resurgence either. No one seems to want to acknowledge that though.


    I DO expect a veteran coach to instill more discpiline (see penalties) into the team three years into his tenure. I DO expect a veteran coach to have some semblance of a two minute offense or at least call two plays in the huddle. Down two score with four minutes left and showing no urgebcy had me screaming at the tv. Shall I go on?

    Yes he's been handicapped by the cap penalties. Let's see how that plays out.

    Injuries? Have you seen the list of players done for the year arond the league? Lame exciuse unless it's your franchise QB.

    Quit with the injury excuses. If it's not your franchise QB out for weeks or the year you can recover if you draft fthe right players for depth. Shanny said himself we had more depth. Not looking so much right now.

    We have a franchise QB and a better running game than we did last year, but the results remain the same. More losses than wins.

    Bring up the defense and I'll point in the direction of Shanny again. He's the head coach/GM and he handpicked the players, coaches and it was Shanny that wanted to move to a 3-4.

    His fingerprints are all over this franchise and it has been a failure so far.

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