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    Default Re: HTTR24-7:Interview Transcript W/ Michael Lombardi 11/14/12..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    You do realize that saying " IF you don't COUNT on me being here 5 years..." is saying Dan's intention should be to allow 5..

    Shanny saying he should be gone at 4 is how he personally feels about where he should be in 4 years.. Every coach knows you don't win if it takes long than 4 to get to .500 football or above..
    I do realize that... not sure why you think I don't. I also believe we're going to be a lot better off next season and he's going to get another year, which plays into my desire to see that through.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Shanahan
    "I knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. One thing I told Dan Snyder was: ‘If you don't plan on me being here for five years to do this the right way, then you shouldn't hire Mike Shanahan. But I'm going to do it the right way... But if you're going to ask me to take shortcuts, I'm not going to take shortcuts. I'm going to do it the right way.' And he said he would. And when we do have this thing turned around, people will see it, and say, ‘Oh my God, that's the way you do it.' "

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    I thought he's been awful for the Giants, hasn't he? I don't know, I'll concede that though since I'm not too sure and take your word for it. I know their Oline has been getting praise because Eli hasn't been touched, but that's not because of Locklear if I recall. I remember Giants fans saying he's the weakest link clearly and it's only cuz Eli gets rid of the ball fast he's doing well.
    Locklear started the season at RT when the Giants Oline was playing lights out. Locklear was playing so well early they didnt insert Diehl into the lineup when healthy until recently.

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    I agree with you. That has been disappointing. However, how much of that is due to the fact that we've had such an influx of young players starting for the first time in their careers on an NFL team? That's where I probably give him a little more leeway than you. Furthermore, our offense this year has been pretty innovative so that may just be part of the learning curve. We're not running things exactly the same as we were under McNabb/Rex/Beck and that almost makes it like this is an offense that's in its first year. ALMOST being the operative word here... we should still be better in terms of penalties.
    No doubt on the young players. But to me, it just seems like the technique hasn't gotten better. I didn't pay attention to this until Darrell Green was interviewed about a month back and he was grilling the secondary technique. He said there is just basic things that he doesn't see out of the secondary that isn't being coached. To me, you have to focus on the little things like that and show improvement. Even if it's a young guy on the field. This goes for all positions.

    From what I've heard regarding the secondary, Raheem "enchances what you do well" and has you work on that. Weird? So, if I am good at tackling but not coverage or jamming a reciever, I'm going to do tackling drills during the position portion of practice? Just doesn't sound like progress to me.

    And it kills me when I watch games at home and I see a player that gets a penalty on another team and he walks off to the sideline and immediately a coach goes up to him and coaches him up. We don't see that here and I don't understand it. We haven't seen it in a while.
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    Default Re: HTTR24-7:Interview Transcript W/ Michael Lombardi 11/14/12..

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    We must have been wrong about Jim Zorn. He must have been great to get that many wins with zero talent on the roster.
    How true oldfan. Jim Zorn got the biggest screwjob more than any coach in the history of the NFL. He was hired with SUCKER stamped on his forehead.

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    Default Re: "Mike we need a GM' ................the ultimate sales pitch.

    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    Yeah, but no offense, DG, (and forgive me if I am wrong, here) but you don't have the contract that Shanny has. Just willing to bet that. This is a guy who is uber comfortable with his situation.
    My point is that Dan Synder is Mike Shanahan's boss. If Dan Synder wants to bring in a GM he can bring in a GM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post
    I do realize that... not sure why you think I don't. I also believe we're going to be a lot better off next season and he's going to get another year, which plays into my desire to see that through.
    He wont get to 5 imo.. he gets to 4 unless the team obviously quits on him down the stretch.

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    Default Re: "Mike we need a GM' ................the ultimate sales pitch.

    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    My point is that Dan Synder is Mike Shanahan's boss. If Dan Synder wants to bring in a GM he can bring in a GM.
    If it's in Mike Shanahan's contract that Mike Shanahan makes all of the football decisions until Mike Shanahan is no longer the Head Coach, Executive Vice President, yada yada, then Dan Snyder can "ask" Mike to hire a GM and Mike can decide yes or know; or, Dan can fire Mike and pay him $14 mil over the next 2 years.

    I'm telling you, Dan did this contract in a moment of weakness, and Shanny got to hear how Steve Largent told espn that Jim Zorn's contract says "he has to listen to everything Dan Snyder says." I don't know this for a fact, but I am guessing, and reasonablly assuming that Mike has a pretty strong contract in that regard.

    EDIT: Dan doesn't want to get sued for breech of contract... I know he's that smart.
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    Default Re: HTTR24-7:Interview Transcript W/ Michael Lombardi 11/14/12..

    Quote Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post
    I do realize that... not sure why you think I don't. I also believe we're going to be a lot better off next season and he's going to get another year, which plays into my desire to see that through.
    This team is going to have to take what amounts to a huge leap next year, particularly at the rate they're going. With another year of the cap penalty and no 1st round pick. This current group is going to have to find a way to get better cuz reinforcements might be few and far between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    He took a poor roster and made the situation worse by changing schemes on both sides of the ball. Why is that not his choice?
    The first year IMO was a wasted year. The offense was going down hill by osmosis. Chris Samuels retired. Portis was on his last legs and got hurt fairly quickly in the season. They had to redo the line to fit the scheme. So they were bound to take a step back. But the defense although aging, talent wise IMO wasn't a train wreck -- they did take a step back with talent on both sides of the ball while trying to reorient scheme all at once.

    That year seem to beg for a rebuild but he didn't go there.They were already missing picks via Vinny and they compounded it by trading more for McNabb. Really IMO an awful year for multiple reasons. He did seem to get a hit with Trent Williams, this year he's stepped up. Perry is decent but not great. They had few picks that draft. J. Brown trade bad. Carriker trade good.

    The following year, I thought both the draft and free agency were decent. Kerrigan, Jenkins, I like Helu when healthy. Royster seems decent in limited opportunities. I have been critical of Hankerson, Robinson and Paul but I'll give them some time. FA -- Bowen, Cofield, Chester --decent.

    This draft so far looks ok but too early to tell -- free agency looks bad unless Garcon can get on the field.

    My problems with Shanahan are:

    1. Defense -- can he hire a good coordinator, and can he acquire difference makers. I got my doubts. and IMO you can't be a winner in this league if one sidfe of the ball is a disaster.

    2. Coaching -- I didn't really expect this as an issue when he was hired, but i got concerns about him in terms of clock management, motivational skills -- and the penalty issues indicates that he might not be as detail driven as I thought.

    3. Building a roster -- I don't think he's been a disaster, and i like how they have handled the cap and contracts. i don't think he's terrible at it but a mixed bag, more good than bad. But are you going to be a winner in this league with C plus, B minus type of work which is how i'd rate him.
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    Default Re: HTTR24-7:Interview Transcript W/ Michael Lombardi 11/14/12..

    Top two pass catching weapons (Garcon and Fred)
    Top pass rusher
    Top safety (not great, but top safety nonetheless)
    Top 3-4 defensive lineman.

    All gone.

    That has a serious impact on your talent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    If it's in Mike Shanahan's contract that Mike Shanahan makes all of the football decisions until Mike Shanahan is no longer the Head Coach, Executive Vice President, yada yada, then Dan Snyder can "ask" Mike to hire a GM and Mike can decide yes or know; or, Dan can fire Mike and pay him $14 mil over the next 2 years.

    I'm telling you, Dan did this contract in a moment of weakness, and Shanny got to hear how Steve Largent told espn that Jim Zorn's contract says "he has to listen to everything Dan Snyder says." I don't know this for a fact, but I am guessing, and reasonablly assuming that Mike has a pretty strong contract in that regard.

    EDIT: Dan doesn't want to get sued for breech of contract... I know he's that smart.
    I don't care to speculate about the terms of Mike Shanahan's contract. These are the facts: Dan Synder owns the football team. Mike Shanahan is under the employ of Dan Snyder. If Dan wants to bring in a GM that is Dan's prerogative whether Mike Shanahan is here or not. Its between Dan and Mike how this hypothetical situation would transpire. It could happen amicably with the shared intention of building a champship team at heart or it could be adversarial. But rest assured if Dan wants a GM he can hire a GM. Mike Shanahan can take elevator or the window.

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    Default Re: HTTR24-7:Interview Transcript W/ Michael Lombardi 11/14/12..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    How so ? He's not a great player but he was playing very well as a starter for the Giants.. Has had a lot better year than Tyler Polumbus.
    I gotta disagree with you there.

    Locklear has been decent at best and helped by a vet QB who knows how to get rid of the ball.

    Polumbus has graded out pretty good at times. It's a wash, at worst.

    As much as I love RG3, he is still a rookie and he took some bad sacks against CAR that weren't on the o-line.
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    Default Re: HTTR24-7:Interview Transcript W/ Michael Lombardi 11/14/12..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    Locklear started the season at RT when the Giants Oline was playing lights out. Locklear was playing so well early they didnt insert Diehl into the lineup when healthy until recently.

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2012/11/1...s-right-tackle
    Cool, didn't know that... just heard the fans say different.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Shanahan
    "I knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. One thing I told Dan Snyder was: ‘If you don't plan on me being here for five years to do this the right way, then you shouldn't hire Mike Shanahan. But I'm going to do it the right way... But if you're going to ask me to take shortcuts, I'm not going to take shortcuts. I'm going to do it the right way.' And he said he would. And when we do have this thing turned around, people will see it, and say, ‘Oh my God, that's the way you do it.' "

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    Default Re: HTTR24-7:Interview Transcript W/ Michael Lombardi 11/14/12..

    Quote Originally Posted by SkinsNoles21 View Post
    Top two pass catching weapons (Garcon and Fred)
    Top pass rusher
    Top safety (not great, but top safety nonetheless)
    Top 3-4 defensive lineman.

    All gone.

    That has a serious impact on your talent.
    Agree it has an impact but Steelers for example lost key players and they are still humming. Giants have had some bad injuries. Shanny is the same guy who said before the year that the difference is this is a deep roster. If the roster is that deep it should be able to withstand injuries better IMO than they have. if Hankerson is supposed to be the future at WR or Robinson, they need to step up now. if Niles Paul reminds Shanny as he said of his Denver Hall of Fame TE, Shannon Sharpe -- be good to see some of that with Davis out. When the Giants lost S. Smith a season ago, Victor Cruz stepped up. Their safety, Phillips is hurt, Stevie Browns steps up. I just don't see how Shanny who touts now how he's built depth -- can use injuries as an excuse. He used injuries as the excuse last year, too. Is he expecting a season without key injuries, rarely any team gets that lucky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post
    We had to undue years of mismanagement. That's unlike any other team. The situation did not "equally" affect everyone with that in mind. Teams like the Pats had most of their team in place and weren't looking to replace what amounts to almost the entire squad.
    Re: the number of starters we added vs. the Pats in the past 3 years (5 to 8), it seems that your point makes it even MORE of an indictment of our front office. By your above post, I'm led to believe the Pats didn't have much upgrading to do, yet they added 8 starters via the draft. By contrast, we had gaping holes on our team and only added 5 starters via the draft over the same period of time. Good or bad, that supports Of's point that Belichick has done more with less (if you consider the draft position) than Shanahan has.
    "Washington strolled to the NFC championship, outscoring their two playoff opponents by a combined total of 48 points. Their domination was more than impressive, it was historic. The 1991 Redskins boasted the largest average margin of victory among all Super Bowl champions."

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