HTTR 24-7.com: Defensive Dysfunction: How Mike Shanahan Can Fix His Achillies Heel

[brandymac27]

There's another major question mark as to whether we change DC's before the years out. (Not saying we're thinking of that, Just a 'what if'').

If there's ANY question mark at all about his long term future, then there's ZERO way he should be hand-picking another coordinator when any possible successor may not want that guy/ system.

Hail.

Let's say Mike gets the boot and Kyle takes over, plus we get a new GM. Are we still looking at Romeo and Morris in this scenario?

[Bishop Hammer]

People keep saying they want Rex Ryan as defensive coordinator, but I'd really like his defensive coordinator Mike Pettine. I think he's got the right mentality, he's not a hapless yes man, until this year I think he's coached phenomenal defenses. And yeah, Rex is apart of that, but the guy just seems like a better fit for us. Plus he's coordinated a 3-4 and a 4-3, and I'm at the point where I don't give a damn what defense we run, I just want it to be better.

When you put it that way I'm sold on the guy. Rex might not want to come here whereas Pettine would. And I agree a hundred percent about just wanting the D to get better. Whatever will fix that side of the ball I'm game for.

[Lavarleap56]

Am I reading this right? Does Raheem Morris have just one month experience as an NFL DC?

Wikipedia:

His wikipedia is wrong.. Raheem was promoted to DC for 1 month then Gruden/Allen were fired. During his tenure as Head coach he took over as DC as well for a year and a half.

---------- Post added November-17th-2012 at 03:36 AM ----------

You certainly are, I brought that point up countless times when people were arguing that Morris was the DC in waiting.

That is wrong information...

[SJValleySkinz]

Nevermind that Belichick is incredibly overrated as a coach. He struck gold with Brady and has been riding that the entire way. People that like to use him as the "shining example" conveniently seem to forget that he sucked as a HC in Cleveland and hasn't exactly made stellar personnel moves post-Brady.

Brady bought him a lot of leeway, so whoever he brings in (Haynesworth, Gaffney) or gets rid of (Seymour) it's viewed as "shrewd" and "a great move" no matter how bad it is.

You have conveniently forgotten that the Browns were very good in his last year in Cleveland before Model announced he was moving the team in the middle of the year. You also seem to conveniently forget that in 2001 Tom Brady didn't really turn into a dominant passer until their last Superbowl win the team Bellicheck won the first Superbowl win was terrible the year before. Don't let your discontent for Bellicheck's succes blind you. He's a hall of fame head coach.

[skinfan57]

Currently the Redskins are monitoring Romeo Crennel and Ron Rivera as replacements for Haslett this offseason. As of right now a final decision has not been made and there still is a internal debate about what to do at DC. Allen is a strong believer in Rah and feels he will make a good HC again someday.. We are going to see how it plays out and what the brain trust decides but Rah is still in the running. How these last few games go will determine a lot for this team going forward.

So you're saying Hasbeen is officially out? Or, are they unsure? An official debate makes it sound like someone wants to keep Haslett. The next few games??? The defense has to step it up now or heads will roll. If we don't beat the Iggles outright, I think it might be over for all the coaches. The team has to make a statement. Players, coaches, owner and fans. Let's do it! Beat Philly!

Granted, we've lost talent on both sides of the ball. Seems to me that an untalented defense should be more aggressive. Haslett is too conservative lately. That's why I'm calling for his head. Who will replace him, I don't know. Just keep any of the Ryan brothers out of D.C. thank you.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Haz is out

One year too late.

At least.

Hail.

[Lavarleap56]

So you're saying Hasbeen is officially out? Or, are they unsure? An official debate makes it sound like someone wants to keep Haslett. The next few games??? The defense has to step it up now or heads will roll. If we don't beat the Iggles outright, I think it might be over for all the coaches. The team has to make a statement. Players, coaches, owner and fans. Let's do it! Beat Philly!

Granted, we've lost talent on both sides of the ball. Seems to me that an untalented defense should be more aggressive. Haslett is too conservative lately. That's why I'm calling for his head. Who will replace him, I don't know. Just keep any of the Ryan brothers out of D.C. thank you.

Haz is out

[brandymac27]

Haz is out

Thank the glorious football gods.

[skinfan57]

Haz is out

OK, cool. End of the season or tomorrow?

[Lavarleap56]

OK, cool. End of the season or tomorrow?

Sounds like end of the year..

[Hitman21ST]

I completely disagree and think it's the other way around. But I don't want to derail the thread with this one.

Nah, you just don't want to derail it because you'd lose

Anyway, back OT, glad to hear that we're pushing Haz out at the end of the season.

[Bishop Hammer]

You have conveniently forgotten that the Browns were very good in his last year in Cleveland before Model announced he was moving the team in the middle of the year. You also seem to conveniently forget that in 2001 Tom Brady didn't really turn into a dominant passer until their last Superbowl win the team Bellicheck won the first Superbowl win was terrible the year before. Don't let your discontent for Bellicheck's succes blind you. He's a hall of fame head coach.

Not to mention Bill has won without Brady. TB had a season ending injury in the first game of the season in and the Pats finished with an 11-5 record with Matt Cassell starting at qb.

[Jumbo]

Jumbo, OF,

Also contributing to the rumor/strong feeling from those that aren't in the crew is the fact that Leslie Frazier offered the Vikings DC job to Raheem Morris straight up... so he picked the Redskins secondary job over the Vikings DC job... I think the writing was on the wall then and there (coupled with Haz and the volleyball tournament escapades that took place in Hampton with guy from hog's haven about trading for the number 2 pick).

At least that's how your boy got there ; )

Good addition, DC, and I know there were other angles beyond the ones I mentioned suggesting there might be a possible promotion of Raheem. Also, reading NLC's excellent reply to OF, I want to note that my post didn't criticize anyone for projecting Raheem as a possible DC here, as I simply didn't feel there was any big reason to criticize. Speculating on him is as reasonable as most other speculations (I knew he had far more than a month experience).

---------- Post added November-16th-2012 at 08:27 PM ----------

Haz is out

Oh delayed snap!

[darrelgreenie]

John Mitchell's--Steeler's DL coach/Assistant Head Coach

Keith Butler--" LBs coach

[MAATopDogg]

People keep saying they want Rex Ryan as defensive coordinator, but I'd really like his defensive coordinator Mike Pettine. I think he's got the right mentality, he's not a hapless yes man, until this year I think he's coached phenomenal defenses. And yeah, Rex is apart of that, but the guy just seems like a better fit for us. Plus he's coordinated a 3-4 and a 4-3, and I'm at the point where I don't give a damn what defense we run, I just want it to be better.

That would be a good hire.