WP Insider - Philadelphia’s Wide-9 front could hamper Redskins’ efforts in run game

[HapHaszard]

Its pretty obvious from Shan's comments that he is loving the thought that they play it this way, he wants them to think we are worried about this formation.

[sportjunkie07]

i feel like we changed our runs a little this week for the eagles wide 9. i dont think it was very effective. in the second half we seemed to swith back to our more standard type of running (stretch plays?) and i think it worked better.

[windsofcreation]

i feel like we changed our runs a little this week for the eagles wide 9. i dont think it was very effective. in the second half we seemed to swith back to our more standard type of running (stretch plays?) and i think it worked better.

It was really frustrating to watch the run calls in this game. They obviously made a point to run the outside toss... which they ran... a lot. A-Mo ended up braking a couple for big gainers in the second half but I was really surprised with the lack of adjustment there.

[KingGibbs]

This is not hindsight, but as soon as I saw them pitch to A' Mo on 3rd and 1 I screamed "Are you kidding me?!"

[Darth Tater]

i feel like we changed our runs a little this week for the eagles wide 9. i dont think it was very effective. in the second half we seemed to swith back to our more standard type of running (stretch plays?) and i think it worked better.

I suspect it was more an artifact of the game situation. I've seen it often happen that when a team is being dominated the way the Eagles were (especially when you've been hit with a couple of long passes), they can no longer stop the run towards the end of the game. I suspect it may be that the defense knows it has to force the big play and either you succeed or you get gashed.

---------- Post added November-19th-2012 at 07:58 AM ----------

It was really frustrating to watch the run calls in this game. They obviously made a point to run the outside toss... which they ran... a lot. A-Mo ended up braking a couple for big gainers in the second half but I was really surprised with the lack of adjustment there.

That is in line with a run philosophy of a veer like running game; Your running game may not be working much but it will.

[pjfootballer]

This is not hindsight, but as soon as I saw them pitch to A' Mo on 3rd and 1 I screamed "Are you kidding me?!"

Every ****ing time. Once a game, Kyle has to run a sweep, toss or stretch play on 3rd and short. Bugs the **** out of me every game. We have a pounding FB who could lead block for a pounding TB. Go off tackle behind Lich and Trent with DY leading Almo.

[Duckus]

Every ****ing time. Once a game, Kyle has to run a sweep, toss or stretch play on 3rd and short. Bugs the **** out of me every game. We have a pounding FB who could lead block for a pounding TB. Go off tackle behind Lich and Trent with DY leading Almo.

+1000. I am one of the few KS fans left, but I don't get the sweeps on 3 and short. The drive me INSANE. To be fair though - on 4th and inches we did give to rock to Morris up the middle and got stuffed. But yes, kill the ****ing sweep on short yardage. PLEASE.

[Burgold]

+1000. I am one of the few KS fans left, but I don't get the sweeps on 3 and short. The drive me INSANE. To be fair though - on 4th and inches we did exactly what you described and got stuffed. So nothing is a guarantee on short yardage.

Can't disagree. Don't know why he loves that play call so much. It takes away the advantage and gives the D a chance to catch up to the ball. Maybe if it were Helu or a real speedster, but Morris is more of a power back with some quicks than a speedy back anyway. Sure, once in a blow moon you might catch someone napping an break a really long one, but the better bet is just dive up the middle.

[PlayAction]

+1000. I am one of the few KS fans left, but I don't get the sweeps on 3 and short. The drive me INSANE. To be fair though - on 4th and inches we did give to rock to Morris up the middle and got stuffed. But yes, kill the ****ing sweep on short yardage. PLEASE.

I think that 4th and inches was a QB keeper. When Eagles have everyone up in run support I don't like a between the tackles run because the OL really isn't built for power football. I'd rather have a play action short pass. The QB keeper (if that's what it was) annoyed me a lot because RGIII isn't a bulky QB and the line hadn't been getting a strong push, i.e., the odds of success seemed low. The most annoying play calling though were the wide screens - - pass right in front of the wide 9 player - - result tackle for loss almost every time.

[wholee]

Griffin made those jokers look foolish. That one run in which he casually spun out of bounds, leaving the defender flying was amazing. Whether its Morris or Griffin, our run game is tough to stop. HTTR! BEAT DALLAS!

[gbear]

I thought a lot of the runs, even the ones which didn't work were designed to set up the play action passes. The touch down off the faked reverse was a beautiful play, and it works because the D is looking for the finess/speed run plays to the sidelines.

[pjfootballer]

+1000. I am one of the few KS fans left, but I don't get the sweeps on 3 and short. The drive me INSANE. To be fair though - on 4th and inches we did give to rock to Morris up the middle and got stuffed. But yes, kill the ****ing sweep on short yardage. PLEASE.

The 4th down call went the Chester and Polumbus side. Why? You have Trent and Lich (who is a great run blocker) on the left. Would you have sent Riggins to George Starke and Fred Dean's side or Jacoby/Grimm. Kyle needs to realize where his strengths are.

[pjfootballer]

I think that 4th and inches was a QB keeper. When Eagles have everyone up in run support I don't like a between the tackles run because the OL really isn't built for power football. I'd rather have a play action short pass. The QB keeper (if that's what it was) annoyed me a lot because RGIII isn't a bulky QB and the line hadn't been getting a strong push, i.e., the odds of success seemed low. The most annoying play calling though were the wide screens - - pass right in front of the wide 9 player - - result tackle for loss almost every time.

3rd down was the keeper. 4th down was Morris. Go to the left, off tackle, have either Chester pulling into the hole between Trent and Kory or have Young lead block to Morris.

[beachboy757]

I can't wait to see a season of a healthy Roy Helu and Alfred Morris together. They are going to compliment each others skill set so well. It is going to be a nightmare for defenses to have to stop our run game and stop RG3 from throwing 60 yard bombs and stop the play action passes, and stop RG3 from scrambling 15 yards downfield if the wr's are covered tight.

[KingGibbs]

The 4th down call went the Chester and Polumbus side. Why? You have Trent and Lich (who is a great run blocker) on the left. Would you have sent Riggins to George Starke and Fred Dean's side or Jacoby/Grimm. Kyle needs to realize where his strengths are.

That was another play call that blew my mind. Why in the hell do you run a short yardage play to the WEAK side of our line? Again, this is not a hindsight. I screamed as soon as I saw A'Mo running to the right.

BTW. I have patented the nickname A'Mo on this day of November 19TH 2012 at 1:12 PM.