RGIII is the 2012 Rookie of The Year! The Official RGIII Rookie of The Year Watch Thread

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If I hear another Colts fan talk about yardage and attempts, I will have lose my mind. If you go purely on statistical categories, there is really no contest like at all.

Another thing about the two is this: Luck is pretty mediocre on the road. Below average, in fact. RG3 has some big wins and puts up stats, whether home or away.

Right now it's Griffin's award. A few weeks ago is was Luck's. Still too early to call. Lot of games left to play.

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I want to see the highlight of RG3's bullet pass to Santana Moss between the two defenders from Thursdays game!!!

At the game, there were a lot of Cowboys fans that cheered on that play because it seriously looked like an interception. I thought it was too I have no idea how it wasn't. I screamed a holy **** out once I saw it had been completed. I was stunned at the cannon required to fit that in there.

I am happy to eat crow on this thread. RG3 has been amazing the last 2 weeks and if he keeps it even somewhat up, it won't matter what Luck does. Griffin has to be ROY at this point and it's not even close, though last Saturday I would have said Luck was a shoe in to win it.

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At the game, there were a lot of Cowboys fans that cheered on that play because it seriously looked like an interception. I thought it was too I have no idea how it wasn't. I screamed a holy **** out once I saw it had been completed. I was stunned at the cannon required to fit that in there.

He had a lot of passes like that on Thursday, it was mindboggling. I wasn't even reacting to the Santana Moss TD because I thought there was absolutely no possible way he came down with that throw, I thought it was him throwing it away or just a plain old incompletion.

If you want to see the game, every pass attempt, running attempt, sack, what have you is in this video.

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I have no problem with Colts fans talking up Luck and claiming that he's better than RG3 - let them. Luck looks to have a bright future ahead of him. But it irritates the heck outta me when they compare him to Newton, stating "sophomore slump," "DCs will figure him out next year," etc. Luck is more comparable to Newton than RG3, actually. Higher passing yards, but much lower comp%, lower ypa, far more turnovers, less rushing yards.

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I have no problem with Colts fans talking up Luck and claiming that he's better than RG3 - let them. Luck looks to have a bright future ahead of him. But it irritates the heck outta me when they compare him to Newton, stating "sophomore slump," DCs will figure him out next year," etc. Luck is more comparable to Newton than RG3, actually. Higher passing yards, but much lower comp%, lower ypa, far more turnovers, less rushing yards.

You should live here in NC, man. Panther fans are so delusional. They don't place any blame whatsoever on Cam for the Panthers' dismal season. They always point to coaching, offensive line sucks, etc. And while those two areas probably deserve most of the blame, Cam has been pretty bad at times, too. Got into it with one of their fans the other day. I said: "When Cam fumbled on that 3rd and 1 play that could have sealed the Atlanta game, that has nothing to do with coaching....Nor does the pick 6 he threw in the 4th vs the Bears....nor were the 5 turnovers he had vs the Giants"...Completely shut dude up. Their fans are also very envious of RG3. So are Dallas fans here. It's pretty funny.

Almost forgot: another conversation I had with a Panther fan on Friday at work...

BS: "RG3! RG3! RG3!
PF: "He's pretty good, but he's no Cam Newton"
BS: "You're right about that! ...followed by this -->

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If you want to see the game, every pass attempt, running attempt, sack, what have you is in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6it2mo5ZBI

8:22. How the hell was that short...

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I still see Doug Martin as a bigger threat than Andrew Luck to RG3's ROY candidacy.

Right now you have to think Griffin is the favorite to win it. We all know why.

But Martin's 1300 yards from scrimmage through ten games is a major accomplishment. Luck is having a good season too, but Martin is the main rookie not named Griffin who has really impressed me.

We might also consider a couple long-shots here. Trent Richardson and our own Alfred Morris could be in this conversation too.

Right now my top five rookies are:

1. Griffin
2. Martin
3. Luck
4. Richardson
5. Morris

I would not be surprised to see any of them win it, to be honest, but I do think Griffin is the obvious favorite as of today.

I will be keeping an eye on this race.

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I still see Doug Martin as the bigger threat than Andrew Luck to RG3's ROY candidacy

No way, man. Doug Martin had a rough start to the season. Other than the Vikings and Raiders games, he's been pretty ordinary. Luck has been consistent all year. Unless Martin has a couple more huge games, he's not even in the conversation.

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No way, man. Doug Martin had a rough start to the season. Other than the Vikings and Raiders games, he's been pretty ordinary. Luck has been consistent all year. Unless Martin has a couple more huge games, he's not even in the conversation.

Not saying I would put him ahead of RG3 at this point, just saying he is a candidate, and I think as much of a candidate as Luck.

Martin is having a really good year. Through ten games he has 1000 rushing yards, 27 receptions for 319 yards, and 8 touchdowns. If he finishes the year at that pace he will have about 2200 yards and 13 touchdowns. He should be part of the ROY conversation.

The reason I actually have Martin over Luck right now despite Luck's inflated passing numbers is that Luck has already committed 17 turnovers this season. That is a big knock on Luck in my opinion.

Griffin is the favorite today for obvious reason, but Martin is making a case too, I think enough of a case to have him ahead of Luck in the ROY race.

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EDIT: double post.

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Not saying I would put him ahead of RG3 at this point, just saying he is a candidate.

Martin is having a really good year. Through ten games he has 1000 rushing yards, 27 receptions for 319 yards, and 8 touchdowns. If he finishes the year at that pace he will have about 2200 yards and 13 touchdowns. He should be part of the ROY conversation, and I actually have him over Luck right now.

Griffin is the favorite today, but Martin is making a case too. That is all I'm saying.

Oh, he's not even in the conversation (right now) with RG3. I was talking about for 2nd.

Like I said earlier, he's really only had two really good games (Oakland and Minnesota). He had 386 of those 1000 rushing yards in two games. So, in the other 9 games he's only averaged 68 yards a game.

Hell, you can make almost as good a case for our own Alfred Morris as you can with Martin. Right now it's 1. Griffin III 2. Luck 3a. Martin 3b. Morris.

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Oh, he's not even in the conversation (right now) with RG3. I was talking about for 2nd.

Like I said earlier, he's really only had two really good games (Oakland and Minnesota). He had 386 of those 1000 rushing yards in two games. So, in the other 9 games he's only averaged 68 yards a game.

Hell, you can make almost as good a case for our own Alfred Morris as you can with Martin. Right now it's 1. Griffin III 2. Luck 3a. Martin 3b. Morris.

Yeah I mis-read your post at first. I see now that you were talking about 2nd, and I edited my above post to better address your point.

In short: The main thing I think you are missing with Martin is his receiving production. What I think you might be missing with Luck is the 17 turnovers. The receiving production puts Martin well ahead of Morris, and in my opinion Luck's turnovers put him behind Martin.

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Yeah I mis-read your post at first. I see now that you were talking about 2nd, and I edited my above post to better address your point.

In short: the main thing I think you are missing with Martin is his receiving production. What I think you might be missing with Luck is the 17 turnovers. The receiving production puts Martin well ahead of Morris, and in my opinion Luck's turnovers put him behind Martin.

Those are good points. I had forgotten about Luck's turnovers and Martin's receiving yards. You do have to factor those things in.

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I know Seattle has a DE I believe that has 7 sacks. And NE has 2 DB's with 4 and 3 ints respectively. Not bad production there, rather unheard of.

[Murphs56]

Don't even attempt to go over to that Colts message board. They really just say the most ridiculous things. If I hear one more "the league's going to adjust," or "the way he plays he won't last" argument. God, it's like a broken record