Highly surprised. I'd be pissed if I was a seahawks fan.
Highly surprised. I'd be pissed if I was a seahawks fan.
Originally Posted by Brandon Lloyd Christmas
I would have given it to Wilson as well, but considering the stage that RG3 had to play on to do what he did I really can't blame the voters.
Honestly, this just truly made me feel it's a new era. Any other year Wilson would have won rookie of the week, but this year OUR BOY won it this week. This is finally not the "same ole skins"!!
Well for once, I dont think Robert deserved the award this week. Russel Wilson played lights out against a very good Chicago team on the road, he gets my vote. Heck I'd argue that our own Alfred Morris should have been a finalist and not Robert. He had a great game against a a stout run defense and slammed the nail in their coffin down the stretch.
It is strange RGIII won it over Wilson, i guess people took into account the Giants are the super bowl champs fresh off a convincing win over the Packers, while Seattle has owned the Bears and beat them 3 seasons straight at soldier field with 3 different QBs. These things are usually popularity contests, so RGIII having the stage all to himself compared to Wilsons game being buried at 1:00pm amongst 9 other games played a big part.
Indy Star writers already anointing Luck as the ROY.
The biggest argument is RGIII has a good RB while Luck "has done everything by himself"
I'm gonna send these guys the URL to LL's article.
http://www.indystar.com/article/2012...nclick_check=1
"It was like he was Jason on 'Friday the 13th' -- man just wouldn't go down," - Honolulu bar patron on Trent Williams being tasered and smashed over the head with a champagne bottle.
Can someone explain to me the argument that RGIII "pads his stats." I see this repeated over and over, but I still don't understand what it means? His offense is getting points, and yards rushing/passing and the stats aren't coming because teams are playing bend-don't-break because they're so far ahead. By what definition does RGIII pad his stats?
I like the writers' argument that basically just says that the Indy OC is a ****ty coordinator. If Luck is forced to throw long all the time and that's a reason for all the interceptions, then why are they throwing long so often? The Redskins have the benefit of having a good running game, but why are they #1 this year when they were #25 last year?
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**** the Seahawks and anyone connected to them for being our bogey team. RG3 should win week in week our for all I care
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I have no idea how they say RGIII pads his stats. Usually I'd view padding ones stats as throwing a ton of times and having limited success on each throw but having very good stats by virtue of volume. That sounds a lot more like Luck than RGIII.
I suppose if you were getting a bunch of garbage time yards and TDs that would count as padding, but we haven't been in garbage time all year.
Lastly, I guess if we just ran up the score on some crappy team like 50-0, then I guess that could be viewed as padding stats, but literally the only two teams we've faced this year with more than 6 losses are Philly and NO, and NO is still a dangerous team.
And I think the problems on offense in Indy are half the coordinators, and half Luck. Luck refuses to throw checkdowns, even when they're clearly wide open for first downs. That is 100% on him. He also could probably scramble a bit more too. He's big and fast enough to be a threat on the ground, there's no real reason he can't run it. If Luck was more of a running threat that might open things up more for Brown or Ballard.
The coordinators and coaches, meanwhile, should do a better job of having Luck throw shorter more high % throws. Luck is throwing 27% of passes longer than 15 yards. Most of the top guys in the league are throwing that long less than 20% of the time, and they have much higher completion %s and fewer INTs.
So after our and the Colts game, where does the race stand now?
More in Griffin's hands than before, I think. Griffin played a decent game by objective standards, but poor by his own, 15/26, 246 yards, 1 TD, no INTs.
Meanwhile, Luck, again, below 50% completion, 16/34, 196 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs.
Of course, whether Griffin is able to keep up now is going to be based on whether he is able to play the last 3 games, but 66% completion, 18 TDs, 4 INTs is a darn good stat line.
The door is open for another rookie this week. Probably Wilson as his team is playing really well right now against the Cardinals (who doesn't).
Luck has another Pick 6 today. The other INT was a hail marry so can't really fault him for that but his completion % was not good. Id say that RGIII easily played a better game. Luck will have to have very solid games here on out to win ROTY in my opinion.
RGIII is still in the drivers seat assuming he can play in some or all of the remaining games.
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