RGIII is the 2012 Rookie of The Year! The Official RGIII Rookie of The Year Watch Thread

[Boss_Hogg]

Alfred Morris is up for Rookie of the Week

http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/20...p2000000108863

I'm actually surprised RGIII isn't an option. What he did with one leg last Sunday was amazing.

[DogofWar1]

RoTY map

So taking out the states with conflicts of interest, RGIII is unanimously the RoTY.

All of that contradicts itself - RG3 actually has one of the higher YAC average. Mainly because of the accuracy and receivers speed.

Many Colts/Luck fans always throw in the YAC as a knock on RG3 but fail to realize that the reasoning is because of the placement of those passes

Yeah, Luck loves throwing to receivers in coverage, so they get tackled almost immediately. RGIII places the ball well generally, and picks the WR who is generally somewhat open, so he's getting lots of YAC. Really the only guy who RGIII can't take most of the credit for for YAC is Garcon, because he's just a monster after the catch with his power and extra gear.

---------- Post added December-11th-2012 at 11:16 AM ----------

Alfred Morris is up for Rookie of the Week
http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/20...p2000000108863
I'm actually surprised RGIII isn't an option. What he did with one leg last Sunday was amazing.

Honestly, as much as I love Morris, Wilson should win it. 337 all purpose yards, 3 TDs, averaged like 7.6YPC on 13 carries. I'm viewing it as a fluke game until we see more, but it was a really good week.

[Prototype]

RGIII leads not just the rookies, BUT THE ENTIRE NFL in QBR with 3 games left. It's not even close, in my opinion. Pundits just want the perception of a close race to draw ratings.

[jservs7]

RGIII leads not just the rookies, BUT THE ENTIRE NFL in QBR with 3 games left. It's not even close, in my opinion. Pundits just want the perception of a close race to draw ratings.

Ding! Correct answer! Maybe next year it will be a closer race for best player, but this year is laughable to consider Luck over RG3 for ROTY. No offense to Luck at all, but RG3 is on another level right now.

[Skinz4Life12]

i don't think RG3 stands a chance if he misses time...just my opinion

[Prototype]

There's a similar thread on the Colts forum, and they truly believe Luck is hands down RoY. What's their best argument? "He has them in the playoffs"

[jservs7]

There's a similar thread on the Colts forum, and they truly believe Luck is hands down RoY. What's their best argument? "He has them in the playoffs"

Those are the same kind of people that would say something along the lines of Luck's turnovers being planned or well executed.

[Idaho fan]

Alfred Morris is up for Rookie of the Week

http://www.nfl.com/voting/rookies/20...p2000000108863

I'm actually surprised RGIII isn't an option. What he did with one leg last Sunday was amazing.

Im kind of surprised that he didn't beat out one of these other rookies. At least Luck isn't an option either as that would have made me really shake my head with the game he had... Interesting that Nick Foles made the final 5 for the week.

I think this week it has to go to David Wilson or Alfred.. Im a little biased though.

As far as ROTY goes I think you have to be a very biased Colt fan to think it could be anyone other than RGIII. If RG can't play against Cleveland I don't think it would have a big impact on the voting. If he misses more than one game however I think that might result in Luck getting the award depending on how he plays his final three games. If he ends up with the same number of INTs as TDs at the end of the year (as he is on pace for) and still gets the ROTY Ill be stunned.

[TheGreek1973]

There's a similar thread on the Colts forum, and they truly believe Luck is hands down RoY. What's their best argument? "He has them in the playoffs"

that argument just might also be slapped as they are about to play the Texans twice and the Texans need both games to make sure NE doesn't get the home field advantage. The Texans probably know they have no chance in hell beating NE when if they endup playing them away. So that 9-4 probably becomes 9-6.

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

Now, let's be fair: Luck would likely have better stats, and maybe an extra win, if Bruce Arians wasn't a garbage coordinator. He's basically the Jim Haslett of offense, who gets credit for being a mastermind but when you actually look at the evidence, he's mediocre at best. Honestly, the whole debate has really skewed my perception of Luck - Luck is a 9.75 to RGIII's 10, not a 7.

Just take a look at the route trees they run, and what they ran in Pittsburgh. They're not there. Virtually every route is one that takes 5-7 seconds to develop. They give up on the run. They don't design plays to get WRs open. They hardly utilize the two stud TEs they drafted. There are few underneath routes. They've coached Luck to not even look at the checkdown read when it is there, and just push it down the field come hell or high water even against deep zone coverage.

RGIII does throw to more open guys, because Kyle Shanahan is a mastermind at play design overall, and Mike Shanahan's base version of the WCO is one of the best offensive schemes ever devised (3 Super Bowl wins in a 5 year period from 1994 to 1998), and they've only ADDED to it with the pistol and zone read. Why can't Luck run a zone read? Why can't they at least sell the play action or try to? Where are the quick slants? Arians is almost running a 1980s pre-WCO scheme...and Andrew Luck's numbers look exactly like that of a QB out of that scheme.

In short, maybe the huge gulf between the two QBs - a gulf that I never expected to be this overwhelming (the general consensus was that RGIII would not be arguably the best QB in the NFL before the end of year 1) is due to the fact that the Shannys have set RGIII up to succeed, and the Colts have set Luck up to fail.

[Laron Burgundy]

I think we can all agree that the way luck reads defenses and finds open safeties and linebackers is far ahead of where RG3 is at right now. I've seen him pumpfake his own man just to open up a safety on a deep third route. I'm sorry but did you see that pass to the linebacker WHILE he was getting sacked? Not every qb can make that play, his touch and ability to find the open man in traffic is unbelievable. Thinking about dropping 8 into coverage? Luck just smiles, more targets for him to throw to. I've seen him make throws to his 6th or 7th read routinely. Forget RotY, this guy has my vote for MVP.

[DogofWar1]

They've coached Luck to not even look at the checkdown read when it is there, and just push it down the field come hell or high water even against deep zone coverage.

See, while I agree that the coordinator should bear some of the blame, I really think the checkdown thing falls squarely on Luck. I don't think any coordinator or coach would tell a QB not to take a checkdown when everyone else is covered, if they are, then they're 10X worse than I thought.

I do however think it's something they're probably just letting slide though. They're probably thinking it's just a bad habit he'll grow out of, which is dangerous thinking because if he doesn't it'll be that much harder to break a couple years down the road.

[Laron Burgundy]

that argument just might also be slapped as they are about to play the Texans twice and the Texans need both games to make sure NE doesn't get the home field advantage. The Texans probably know they have no chance in hell beating NE when if they endup playing them away. So that 9-4 probably becomes 9-6.

And oh yes, I can see a 10-6 finish for them. When we finish with the same record what will they say then? All those game-winning drives! When our opponents have almost 30 combined more wins than theirs do, our wins are far and away more impressive.

[youngchew]

I think we can all agree that the way luck reads defenses and finds open safeties and linebackers is far ahead of where RG3 is at right now. I've seen him pumpfake his own man just to open up a safety on a deep third route. I'm sorry but did you see that pass to the linebacker WHILE he was getting sacked? Not every qb can make that play, his touch and ability to find the open man in traffic is unbelievable. Thinking about dropping 8 into coverage? Luck just smiles, more targets for him to throw to. I've seen him make throws to his 6th or 7th read routinely. Forget RotY, this guy has my vote for MVP.

Thanks for the laugh. Hilarious

[Boss_Hogg]

Alfred Morris has been named Rookie of the week. That's his second ROW award. Griff has won 6 times. Andrew Luck has won 3 times.

OP updated.