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    Yet Biden is perfectly fine? Such crazy litmus tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiebear View Post
    Yet Biden is perfectly fine? Such crazy litmus tests.
    Which quote by Biden are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiebear View Post
    Larry: not to quote all of that,

    What Rubio 'would' have said of pi, (comp. stuffing to stuffing)
    I'll leave that to the mathematicians, there
    Are the others that say its an endless mystery but Im
    Focused on the economy as that is what my
    Constituents main concern is now

    And others swoop in to disqualify him as President.
    Unfortunately for your attempt at revising history, though, Rubio didn't say "I don't know how old the Earth is, I care about the economy". He said "I don't know how old the Earth is, and I specifically want to call out to those people who think it was created one afternoon, 6,000 years ago, and to tell all of you that I don't think all of that evidence that shows how grossly wrong you are is important, either."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry View Post
    Unfortunately for your attempt at revising history, though, Rubio didn't say "I don't know how old the Earth is, I care about the economy". He said "I don't know how old the Earth is, and I specifically want to call out to those people who think it was created one afternoon, 6,000 years ago, and to tell all of you that I don't think all of that evidence that shows how grossly wrong you are is important, either."
    You leave out the middle again?
    So your stating he didn't say he would leave that to the scientists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiebear View Post
    So your stating he didn't say he would leave that to the scientists?
    I think he did say that, more or less. And if you mean that by even mentioning the word "Scientist", he risks pissing off the GOP's creationist faction, I think you're right.

    But then he equivocates by saying, "Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I’m not sure we’ll ever be able to answer that. It’s one of the great mysteries." This part, IMO, is where he loses all credibility in order to appease the creationists, who act as though they think that evolution is just some competing religion that he'd better not favor over theirs.

    It's a shame that he feels that he can't expect to win the nomination without walking the Creationism/Evolution tightrope. The best that we, the non-creationist governed, can hope for is that, if elected, he'd govern with a responsible view towards science, in spite of his religious pandering.

    It's not a sure bet, and some of us would rather see a candidate with either more guts or more brains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thiebear View Post
    You leave out the middle again?
    So your stating he didn't say he would leave that to the scientists?
    If all he'd said was that he'd leave it to the scientists, that'd be fine.

    But he didn't. He mentioned theological beliefs several times. If the top scientists at USGS and the Geological Society of America told him their estimates of the age of the Earth, would he, if asked this question again, say what they told him, and repeat it as the best and most definite answer without any supportive references to theological versions of the Earth's origin? I somewhat doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skinsfan07 View Post
    Yeah, the repubs won't be getting into the White House for a long time....Good.
    Wasn't too long ago it seemed like the dems were as much of a mess and longshot than the current repubs. All these guys are idiots and bound to **** up whatever good will they accrue....most of which is by default for a hatred of the other side.
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