NYDN: NY Giants should realize Robert Griffin III and Washington now their top rival in NFC East, not Philadelphia Eagles or Dallas Cowboys

[MisterPinstripe]

Ummm...that rule WAS created.

I admit I didnt word that well at all. The rule was already in place, but the Giants break it and there is no punishment. After the uproar the NFL just says, hey guys, dont do that. No penalizing off the Giants for OBVIOUSLY breaking a rule that was already in place.

[PortisBetts]

I say just change the damn name. We willl still be fans of Washington's football team and this is only sports entertainment so I don't think anyone would really care about the Redskins becoming say the Washington Braves. So what if a poll says most Native Americans are against it and they sell merchandise with the Redskins logo on it. Fact of the matter is there is still a percentage of Native Americans offended by it. It's the same argument ignorant people make when they hear the n-word in rap music and think its ok to say it.

As a small man, I am offended by the name Giants. Please change it. I count as some sort of percentage, so it has to be done.

Come on dude. America was built on MAJORITY rules. Not the minorities which seem to be getting their way as of late.

By the way, I am not really small, just stating a case.

---------- Post added November-30th-2012 at 10:33 AM ----------

Well ...thank you. I really don't know enough about this and although the poster was harsh, one thing he said was right. I am on a Redskins board and I may not be in the right place to be debating something that is very serious to you guys. I just wish it never happened, and I do wholeheartedly hope the 2nd year cap hit is lifted. Are you guys fighting it even yet?

Yeah, they are still fighting it. The Cowboys dropped out like a bunch of p******

Football wise, i think key for us defensivly is to attack Locklear. He was here last year, we know what he is (More what he is not) capable of. We need to send massive pressure to his side and collapse the pocket on Eli. I am not worried about our offense as we find ways to minimize pressure with the boots and play action. We need to keep your offense under control.

[Brotherz]

This is the epitome of a statement game. We win, and the rest of the teams in this league are officially going to be circling the Redskins on their calendars.

I just hope we bring our A-game.

Its time. Its that simple. This is going to be the TRUE beginning of a different era for this franchise and fan base or it isn't. This could just be the monday night massacre with Philly a few years back when we were going into the game saying "this is the game we have to win to turn the corner" or its the Cowboys game at Dallas last year after start 3-1 where we choked a winnable game away that would have really placed us on the map. We have been historically VERY bad in this very situation.

Now is the time. Right now. Monday night. Our house. The whole we suck at home thing can end. The whole cellar dwellers in our division thing can end. I heard Shanny on Mike and Mike this morning. We were one of the top stories on sports center last night. Our QB was on NFL AM yesterday. Win this game and we are in for a super fun ride and one we as a fan base sorely deserve after the last twenty years. Lose it, and we are right back where we have been albeit with renewed hope in the off-season. I don't think I can over-state this game.

We are at home. Against the Giants. A shot to make ALL of december relevant not just the first monday in december. Utterly winnable games remain. Its all right in front of us. I can freakin taste it. All we have to do is what we have been unable to do in this very game for the last decade or so. Its time. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!

[LegendaryNumber5]

Its time. Its that simple. This is going to be the TRUE beginning of a different era for this franchise and fan base or it isn't. This could just be the monday night massacre with Philly a few years back when we were going into the game saying "this is the game we have to win to turn the corner" or its the Cowboys game at Dallas last year after start 3-1 where we choked a winnable game away that would have really placed us on the map. We have been historically VERY bad in this very situation.

Now is the time. Right now. Monday night. Our house. The whole we suck at home thing can end. The whole cellar dwellers in our division thing can end. I heard Shanny on Mike and Mike this morning. We were one of the top stories on sports center last night. Our QB was on NFL AM yesterday. Win this game and we are in for a super fun ride and one we as a fan base sorely deserve after the last twenty years. Lose it, and we are right back where we have been albeit with renewed hope in the off-season. I don't think I can over-state this game.

We are at home. Against the Giants. A shot to make ALL of december relevant not just the first monday in december. Utterly winnable games remain. Its all right in front of us. I can freakin taste it. All we have to do is what we have been unable to do in this very game for the last decade or so. Its time. HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!

Getting goosebumps at the though of other teams circling the Skins. We do deserve it, Especially us young Skins fans that grew up in burgundy and gold diapers. At 26 I have nothing but a bunch of heartbreaking memories. This is our time fellas! I will be there Monday night, giving my best effort to be as loud as possible whenever the Giants touch the ball... I will not have a voice for the next few days.

[jp03]

I admit I didnt word that well at all. The rule was already in place, but the Giants break it and there is no punishment. After the uproar the NFL just says, hey guys, dont do that. No penalizing off the Giants for OBVIOUSLY breaking a rule that was already in place.

So you are saying the rule was in place BEFORE the Giant game? You sure?

---------- Post added November-30th-2012 at 11:33 AM ----------

As a small man, I am offended by the name Giants. Please change it. I count as some sort of percentage, so it has to be done.

Come on dude. America was built on MAJORITY rules. Not the minorities which seem to be getting their way as of late.

By the way, I am not really small, just stating a case.

---------- Post added November-30th-2012 at 10:33 AM ----------



Yeah, they are still fighting it. The Cowboys dropped out like a bunch of p******

Football wise, i think key for us defensivly is to attack Locklear. He was here last year, we know what he is (More what he is not) capable of. We need to send massive pressure to his side and collapse the pocket on Eli. I am not worried about our offense as we find ways to minimize pressure with the boots and play action. We need to keep your offense under control.

Is Locklear definitely playing in place of David Deihl? I know Diehl got hurt again but I wasn't sure if he would be back.Locklear has not been terrible for us, he actually is playing better than last year for sure but I see your point.

So here is a question for you guys... i just had a talk with a Redskin fan friend and we were talking about Morris. I said Morris has been a great help to RG3. He disagreed totally and said its the other way around. RG3 has helped Morris. Obviously both complement each other but I still think the running game opens the passing game not vice-versa..any thoughts?

[Skinsfan In NM]

I actually think it's closer that they helped each other equally. Yes Morris helps open up the passing game, but if you don't have someone that can actually pass that is irrelevant (well with the exception of Barry Sanders that is). Then on the other side you have Robert helping Morris in that, even when the opposing team knows that it is a run play they really can't just focus on Morris since Robert can take off and run like the wind. So I'd say it's an equally beneficial relationship that those two Rookies have built up.

[MisterPinstripe]

So you are saying the rule was in place BEFORE the Giant game? You sure?[COLOR="Gold"]

Yes I am sure. I remember reading the story saying that the NFL sent out a memo to all teams emphasizing the rule. No penalty. Just saying, hey guys remember there is a rule against this, dont do it anymore.

[jp03]

I actually think it's closer that they helped each other equally. Yes Morris helps open up the passing game, but if you don't have someone that can actually pass that is irrelevant (well with the exception of Barry Sanders that is). Then on the other side you have Robert helping Morris in that, even when the opposing team knows that it is a run play they really can't just focus on Morris since Robert can take off and run like the wind. So I'd say it's an equally beneficial relationship that those two Rookies have built up.

I guess so...the dynamics of what works are not always an easy answer sometimes its in unison.

I'll tell you this. If Kenny Phillips cannot go that is a huge loss for the Giants. He came back last week and the secondary was so so much better. Several coverage sacks. I honestly think thats the key to the game. Not stopping Morris, not the pass rush but the secondary play. Lets face it..both defenses are gonna give up tons of yards. The question is all about red zone and not giving up big plays. This goes for both teams as until last week the Giants were HORRIBLE in the red zone.

---------- Post added November-30th-2012 at 11:54 AM ----------

Yes I am sure. I remember reading the story saying that the NFL sent out a memo to all teams emphasizing the rule. No penalty. Just saying, hey guys remember there is a rule against this, dont do it anymore.

oh ok..I honestly thought it was after. I think it was one of the rules that is there but never even thought about being enforced. Giants forced it to be an issue with some horrible acting. Not a shining moment by the way. Trust me most Giant fans will tell that. I'd rather they would have just let them score for godsakes...

[Rocky21]

Holy ****. Is that some sort of respect from the Daily News? Time to gather the canned goods and stock up on bottled water.

[SnyderShrugged]

JP, Does the return of Garcon cause you any additional angst over last game? Personally, I think that his presence alone will open up the offense even more on Monday.

[jp03]

JP, Does the return of Garcon cause you any additional angst over last game? Personally, I think that his presence alone will open up the offense even more on Monday.

Huge concern...all the more reason we need Phillips

[Heidenreich]

Living in this area, the Redskins are NEVER treated as a threat. This is so nice to see. Things are looking up.

Also living in this area, I hate the Giants with every fiber of my being, so I can't wait to smack them around Monday night.

I just wish they would shut up. They get ahead in NY because the Jets talk and Coughlin said "Talk is cheap, play the game" Yet the Giants run their mouths more than any team in recent memory......

[PortisBetts]

So you are saying the rule was in place BEFORE the Giant game? You sure?

---------- Post added November-30th-2012 at 11:33 AM ----------



Is Locklear definitely playing in place of David Deihl? I know Diehl got hurt again but I wasn't sure if he would be back.Locklear has not been terrible for us, he actually is playing better than last year for sure but I see your point.

So here is a question for you guys... i just had a talk with a Redskin fan friend and we were talking about Morris. I said Morris has been a great help to RG3. He disagreed totally and said its the other way around. RG3 has helped Morris. Obviously both complement each other but I still think the running game opens the passing game not vice-versa..any thoughts?

I think just the fact that they are both a threat opens of the game for both. It is what is making the option threat so big. To have a player with RG3's breakaway speed complemented with an inside runner who runs with brute force, it is a pick your poison type of offense. Choose who you want to beat you becasue one of them will.

You are right when you say the running game is opening the pass, but it is also Griffins ridiculous play action motions that lull the defense in and also creates openings. The fake is just carried out so well.

Finally, i hope Locklear is playing. He played well so far, but i think we can scheme a little better this time against him. But that is probably putting faith where it doesnt belong, I.E Haslett.

[DC9]

Huge concern...all the more reason we need Phillips

It's okay. Tuck said that if "RG3 gets hurt, the offense won't move."

He must've forgotten the two ass whoopings from last year.

You guys need to get Kwantrell Bishop healthy.

[CoolHandLuke]

Huge concern...all the more reason we need Phillips

I just hope you don't unleash the mighty Ill, Will Hill on us. That would be Armageddon.