I want Haslet to stay

[maskedsuperstar]

Hey let's not get carried away. He is still just a Brandon Weedon thrashing away from being tar and feathered and run out of town...

They defense played a heck of a 2nd half. London apparently stepped up during halftime and told the defense the season was on the line for the next 2 quarters and they responded.

But I would still love to improve at the DC position...

Even if the Skins get a brand new DC, which they won't, it would still be the same issue. The problem is in the secondary. We all know that. I'm sure Haslett didn't count on Jackson being suspended, Meriweather, Orakpo, and Carriker gone for the year because of injuries.

[SkinsCrushCowboys]

I have never been a Haz fan and blast him regularly on twitter. With that said, he made some nice adjustments at half time and threw some looks that seemed to frustrate Eli a bit. Our secondary is not good, but last night it almost seemed worse that it was...giving up big chunks, but minimal points. Ultimately coaches are judged by the record and he is on pace to lead a defense that gives up the most passing yards in NFL history, not good. But, for one night he made good adjustment in a must win game and got the most out of his players.

Hail

[SWFLSkins]

The most yards given up through the air in the NFL's history.

Historically they really haven't underperformed until ths year. I did a bunch of stats in the old Haslett thread that went ignored. They held most QBs to right around their average and same for scoring defense. The awful offense we had last year set them up for nearly one TD per game.

Looking at his entire history as a DC, Haslett takes what was given him and gets worse. He isn't good. He should have never been hired. He needs to go.

So coaches coach players up, I see no evidence in Hasletts resume where that can be documented. Maybe the numbers you put forward were not as bad as they would seem, but that is because of what he inherited and where it went afterward. And remember that quote, "The worst in the History of the NFL". Hell it is hard to keep your job at that level if a plethora of things go wrong and you underperform, but the worst in History? The pass rush last night was again unimaginative at times for as much as Gruden wanted to pontificate otherwise. The coverages allowed numerous big third down completions. I think the stew is turned and new meat won't fix it.

[skins island connection]

Awhile back, a thread/poll was dione regarding Haslett's demise here; it was pretty evident the majority of people wanted him outta here.

With that said, one could make an arguement as to why it took him all this time to get a scheme that actually slowed down an offense in the 2nd half; usually an offense lights it up during the 2nd half against our defense, so what gives?
Well, there's this thing called determination; the players decided they were going to focus and play their best; well, they should be doing this all year. Coaches coach, players play, and fans scrutinate.

The 2nd half of the Cowboy's game should be damning enough evidence; the Giants game was more of a sloppy offense than the Skins defense; their receivers just missing catches that could have easily blown the game wide open, and the continual degression of Griffin [ Cedric ] getting beaten, turned, and at times lost is clear evidence Haslett isn't getting through or he's just too dumb to be coached.

Haslett has had his time here; its time to move on to a coach who can be creative, innovative, and can mask problems to prevent exploitation. And maybe someone who can tell Shanny that 'hey, if we lose a d-line player, we're screwed, so maybe the 4-3 or a perverted 3-4 defense is the way to go.

[Hubbs]

If I were Haslett, I'm not sure how much I'd be blowing my own horn after last night. The Giants really should have scored a lot more points. Eli missed several wide-the-****-open receivers on big throws down the field that he normally hits. Plus there was that missed chip shot field goal. If we play last night's game 10 times with our defense doing exactly the same things, New York probably scores 26+ at least 7 times out of 10.

[BTBIRD 227]

Man, I have a mixed opinion of the situation. I was at first ready to run the guy out of town when all this started what in October, but consider the injuries to the starters, and the learning curve for the back ups being used to supplant vacancies,and for Haslet most likely teaching the replacements on assignments. Plus the time to establish cohesion between existing players on the defense and the newbees. Plus three wins in a row helps swing the opinion of doubt, towards the opinion of Haslet stays. I guess will see how the next 2 to 3 weeks turns out, and Haslets' fate will be sealed, Hail

[Geneva]

Lets see what he can do next year with several players returning from injury and some new safeties via draft or free agency. He called a heck of a game today!

edit: Haslett

That was one game. He also had a lot of help from the Giants. Keep in mind we have the worst pass defense in the history of the NFL. NO pro football team has ever given up that much yardage. This group could just sit on the bench for all the good they do. And yes, we still have 4 games to go.

[thomasroane]

Lets see what he can do next year with several players returning from injury and some new safeties via draft or free agency. He called a heck of a game today!

edit: Haslett

Good thing the Front Office doesn't listen to fans! I've been on record in support of Haz all along. Why? Cause the front 7 has been solid ever since he's been here. Stopping the run has been a staple under Haz and that comes first. I trust that eventually the secondary will get fixed. With or without Raheem Morris. The back 4 played much better yesterday. I don't give Morris a pass cause of injuries. Haz is missing Orakpo, Carriker, Nelid, and Keenan Robinson. If they keep the staff intact then next year the defense could be nasty with those guys back. And on the back end getting Merriweather, Tanard Jackson, Minnefield and now Cedric Griffin back would make for a solid unit. Not counting the Draft and Free Agency!

[jfriedenthal]

To say the Defense has been atrocious this season is an UNDERSTATEMENT. Scheme has been terrible, and Haslett doesn't know how to play to peoples strengths.... Get him out of here, ASAP.

[Kindred]

The giant's strategy of trying to control the ball by running a lot was flawed. The key to beating the skins is to score more on our secondary than we score on theirs. We're just lucky they were persistent with trying to run the ball which imo cost them a few drives.

[London Kev]

Haslett can't be blamed for the mess that we started with in the secondary. Losing both Jackson and Merriweather was a kick in the nuts, but we also lost promising rookies in Minnifield and Bernstine (sp?). Then Rak, Carriker and Neild bit the dust and Balmer went walkies.

Losing these players has almost certainly restricted him in what he can do, but he just looks lost out there at times and some of the schemes/blitzes have been puzzling.

He did do a pretty good job in the second half against the midgets, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. I don't care what Shanahan says publicly, I think Haslett is a dead man walking.

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

[/COLOR]Credit the secind half play to London and Riley firing the defense up at half. Credit the players for going to Haz and begging for second half adjustments . Haz is not a DC that will help you win a SB and thats what matters.

This is sad and pathetic.

I want Haslett gone now.

The PLAYERS have to go the Defensive Coach and tell HIM to adjust his scheme? What the actual ****?

We cannot keep Haslett here. Period. It would be an insult to our players.

[MD2ATLdiehard]

Good thing the Front Office doesn't listen to fans! I've been on record in support of Haz all along. Why? Cause the front 7 has been solid ever since he's been here. Stopping the run has been a staple under Haz and that comes first. I trust that eventually the secondary will get fixed. With or without Raheem Morris. The back 4 played much better yesterday. I don't give Morris a pass cause of injuries. Haz is missing Orakpo, Carriker, Nelid, and Keenan Robinson. If they keep the staff intact then next year the defense could be nasty with those guys back. And on the back end getting Merriweather, Tanard Jackson, Minnefield and now Cedric Griffin back would make for a solid unit. Not counting the Draft and Free Agency!

I tend to agree with thomasroane's view. I believe our Defense has suffered mainly due to personnel issues. Injuries are one thing, but DEPTH is another. The d-back injuries/suspentions have exposed our lack of depth (particularly at Safety; we've been playing all year without our starters. That's tough sleddin' for anybody). The same is true with our pass rush.

I would suggest that under the circumstances, Haslett will be back because the injury-riddled year will grant him the benefit of the doubt. Whether we like it or not, that's the likely scenario. A rebuilding team that's in position to Win it's division, while missing key players, is NOT going to fire it's Defensive Coordinator.

Not to mention, there's something to be said for continuity. I remember watching one of the pregame shows earlier this season. The piece in particular was praising the Bears' great year defensively, and the reporter was asking Jay Cutler for his thoughts. He basically said that there's no way the Bears O was going to outplay it's D this season, because the D had a NINE YEAR head start on them! Their offense had only been in that scheme a year or two, while the defenders had been in their scheme nine years. Yes, most of their talent is on that side of the ball, but continuity matters. It matters a great deal.

It is extremely difficult for me to see how Haslett gets fired during the rebuild. The Washington Redskins aren't a finished product; Shanny knows that. And Shanny's NOT going to fire a guy that got a pretty good handle on the top team in the division. Feel free to flame me all you want, but for where The Skins are at, continuity and depth are the name of the game on defense. Haslett's stayin.

[AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy]

Haslett is a handsome man and his defenses are damn sexy.

[skinzplay]

If Buddy Ryan had been on the Giants' sideline Monday night, Kevin Gilbride would've had a black eye.

The giant's strategy of trying to control the ball by running a lot was flawed. The key to beating the skins is to score more on our secondary than we score on theirs. We're just lucky they were persistent with trying to run the ball which imo cost them a few drives.