Colin Cowherd: RG3 can't hold a candle to Andrew Luck

[SKINSFAN87]

First consider the source, it's Colin Cowturd. He doesn't have much love for anything but himself. Not sure why he is on talk radio because he offers no credible insights to the world of sports, other than his self loving bull***.

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You say "oh but he beat the packers" He got demolished by the bears and absolutely destroyed vs the pats. the packers started slow this year and Luck has only had 3 difficult games out of 12 and got destroyed in 2 of them. Luck actually has a decent defense and a HOF #1 receiver

No, what I was saying is that you can say he's had an easy schedule, but he's still proven he can beat a top flight team like the Packers. And you're excusing the game because the Packers started slow? Uh, what about the Saints? They started, what, 0-4? C'mon. You can't play just one side of the fence.

And as for the Colts have a good defense comment: the Colts were rated 24th going into the Monday night game, one spot below our very own Redskins.

[cphil006]

That's because Luck is holding the candle.

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You know what the worst part of this **** is? Luck has one quality win all year, against Green Bay. The same Green Bay team that was just demolished by the Giants who we should be 2-0 against if it wasn't for a last minute 80 yard td pass. The Colts have 8 wins against teams who are a combined 38-58 (.396). We have 6 wins against teams who are a combined 33-39(.458). Of our 6 losses, only ONE was by more than a td. Of Indy's 4 losses, 3 were by 20 points or more. I expect the Colts to get throttled by the Texans in 2 of the last 3 weeks and the media can finally start talking about how baby soft Indy's schedule has been instead of how amazing 8 wins is for that team.

That same Green Bay team that got demolished by the Giants also demolished the 11-1 Texans team (at their place) that you say is gonna "throttle" the Colts. What one team did against other teams is irrelevant. As is how many pts they won or loss by.

And the reason why most people in the media aren't harping on the Colts schedule is because they probably realize the Colts were 2-14 last year. Generally, a team picking #1 in the draft isn't gonna have a terribly difficult schedule. And teams that are 2-14 generally don't make the playoffs the next season.

[spjunkies]

People still give this clown attention?

[Laron Burgundy]

Honestly, that doesn't bother me. What bugs me is the claim that we are vastly more talented. The Colts are two years removed from being a Superbowl contender. Our best receiver, who hasn't played the majority of the year is a guy they rejected.

The talent disparity thing is just something I don't buy... especially, when you look at what we are fielding on defense and the oline (though the oline is one of those strange examples of when the sum is much greater than the parts)

I guess there is that too. Redding, Davis, Bethea, Mathis, and Hughes are all quality guys and I'll take their freeney injury as a wash to our orakpo injury. Hell, when Pat Angerer is your backup ILB, you're doing ok there.

That offensive line isn't terrible by any means, their rookie tight ends were #1 and #2 in the class and tight ends seem to make an impact quickly if they are good (and as if Paulsen is better than them), and Wayne is a HoFer, plus T.Y. Hilton has had a great rookie year and can you really argue that Donnie Avery is worse than Josh Morgan/Leonard Hankerson?. And for God's sake Vick Ballard was drafted before Alfred Morris.

When they say Indy is talent poor, I'm wondering if they've seen Jacksonville play. Indy doesn't have an all-star cast but you're right, they make it sound like they're the 2008 Detroit Lions or 2007 Miami Dolphins. In all honesty, they are better than us at WR, TE, RT, RG, ROLB, and FS; and most other positions are a push except we have a better RB, NT, LT, C, and ILB.

[SteveFromYellowstone]

No, what I was saying is that you can say he's had an easy schedule, but he's still proven he can beat a top flight team like the Packers. And you're excusing the game because the Packers started slow? Uh, what about the Saints? They started, what, 0-4? C'mon. You can't play just one side of the fence.

And as for the Colts have a good defense comment: the Colts were rated 24th going into the Monday night game, one spot below our very own Redskins.

We are 29th ranked D they have 21st ranked D.

I don't know where you are going with this because like I said he has beat ONE good team. The other TWO times he has played good teams they absolutely murdered the colts and he didn't play well. Why do you only count the Packers game? The packers did start slow. I didn't say that's the only way Luck was able to beat the Packers, he had a great game. The other 9 games Luck has played has been against bad teams. Seems like you're saying since Luck beat the packers that means his easy schedule doesn't matter and neither does getting blown out by the pats 59-24 and by the bears 41-21

[skinsarel33t]

In other news Skip Bayless is all over the Redskins jock

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We are 29th ranked D they have 21st ranked D.

I don't know where you are going with this because like I said he has beat ONE good team. The other TWO times he has played good teams they absolutely murdered the colts and he didn't play well. Why do you only count the Packers game? The packers did start slow. I didn't say that's the only way Luck was able to beat the Packers, he had a great game. The other 9 games Luck has played has been against bad teams. Seems like you're saying since Luck beat the packers that means his easy schedule doesn't matter and neither does getting blown out by the pats 59-24 and by the bears 41-21

I think you're right about those rankings. I believe I was looking at pass defense rankings

No, I'm not saying that just because the Colts beat the Packers, means their easy schedule doesn't matter. I'm saying that it's sort of pointless to bring up their soft schedule in the first place because it's a given it's gonna be easier than most teams', considering they were 2-14 last year.

[windsofcreation]

In other news Skip Bayless is all over the Redskins jock

Hey! Skip Bayless is an idiot like Cowherd too! He must be wrong! Wrong wrong wrong

[WinSkins]

what colin "thinks" is really not very important to most everyone in the world so whay should we care?

[Laron Burgundy]

That same Green Bay team that got demolished by the Giants also demolished the 11-1 Texans team (at their place) that you say is gonna "throttle" the Colts. What one team did against other teams is irrelevant. As is how many pts they won or loss by.

And the reason why most people in the media aren't harping on the Colts schedule is because they probably realize the Colts were 2-14 last year. Generally, a team picking #1 in the draft isn't gonna have a terribly difficult schedule. And teams that are 2-14 generally don't make the playoffs the next season.

Nope, they ignore schedule for the most part, and concentrate on record, regardless of the situation because looking at strength of schedule requires more work.

Green Bay is also not the team you may think they are. They've put up over 31 points just once this season, and that was against those Texans. It was more of a fluke game for Green Bay than anything else, and those happen. It's why New Orleans has the one win over Atlanta, why Carolina beat us, or why Jacksonville has beaten anyone.

When Indy is more likely to get blown out by a playoff team than to have a competitive game, I have to believe that they aren't as good as their record. We were an awful team last year, and we had a close game against the Patriots and beat the Giants twice, were we really that good to play well against the two best teams in football? Hell no, we had some fluke games. So when Indy has one win against a winning team, and a bunch of wins against powderpuffs, I have to believe that quality win is a fluke, not something they can replicate on a week-to-week basis.

We'll both see who's more in the right in a couple weeks, but I have a feeling Houston is going to win by over 20 on them.

[NoCalMike]

Ok here is a fact. If RGIII was throwing an INT for nearly every TD pass he tossed, the 'Skins would be lucky to have more than a couple wins this season.

This is the main difference in my eyes. Andrew Luck is having a very good rookie campaign, and shows the signs of being great, but he is also afforded a lot more wiggle room on the field than RGIII. You can't ignore the bad, rookie-like stuff that Luck is doing on the field. Sure, he had 4 TD passes against the Lions, but he also had 3 INTs.

If RGIII threw 3 INTs last night against the Giants, it wouldn't matter if he had 5 TD passes, the 'Skins in all likelihood would still lose the game because the team around RGIII (namely, the defense) is not good enough to afford a rookie QB the luxury of playing like a rookie.

Make no mistake about it people, the only reason the 'Skins are in the position they are in, is because RGIII is not playing like a rookie, and I am not talking about statistics themselves. Not at all. I am talking about his decision making, lack of mistakes, ability to read defenses, ability to make the correct reads, ability to trick a defense etc etc etc......

If the coaches were simply having RGIII drop back 40 times a game to throw the ball all around the field, his stats would be much higher then they are, but that isn't what this offense is all about, and it is certainly not something required at this time of RGIII. Let a team dare to stop the rushing attack, then we will see.

If you want to make the argument that Luck's numbers are higher, as far as the measurement of pure VOLUME, then I can't disagree, it is a fact he has more passing yards, however compare RGIII & Luck when it comes to making mistakes, poor throws, bad reads, etc etc over the course of a game, and RGIII has been excelling where Luck has been good, for a rookie, but nothing that jumps out at you.

Let me re-iterate the biggest point of all here. If RGIII turned the ball over as much this season as Luck has, this team would have 2 wins at the most.

[Dallsux]

Can anyone tell me why Mr Colin Cowherd flat out won't give the Redskins any credit for anything. I just heard him on NY ESPN.....all he could say was that RG3 can't hold a candle to Andrew Luck.

I don't think any self-respecting Redskins fan should ever listen to him again. When Sean died, he all but said he had it comin'. As far as I'm concerned, Colin Coward's job is to piss everyone off & apparently, he has a huge following for it. He doesn't seem to have a whole lot of true knowledge of organized team sports, only what he's been told & read.

Turn him off & stop listening to this clown. He's an idiot. Turn the dial.

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Hey! Skip Bayless is an idiot like Cowherd too! He must be wrong! Wrong wrong wrong

[Mr. Nostril]

What pisses me off about this isn't that CC is saying Luck is better than RG3. That's an arguable premise. What pisses me off is improper use of an idiom. One person who "can't hold a candle" to another person is so severely inferior that he's not even fit to be the latter person's apprentice. By any measure, RG3 and Andrew Luck both count as 2 of the greatest (and possibly the 2 greatest) rookie quarterbacks in NFL history, and no one can honestly say they know with certainty how either of their careers are going to play out long term. So, how can you say that one is not fit to be even an apprentice to the other.

I'm a totally biased fan, and I would never claim that Luck "can't hold a candle" to RG3. Why does Cowherd, as a supposedly unbiased member of the media, feel he can make this claim. CC probably has some reasonable basis for his statement, but his wording for it is incendiary in a decidedly stupid and calculated way (which I contend is also a good description of all the statements colin cowherd makes on a radio show).