Colin Cowherd: RG3 can't hold a candle to Andrew Luck

[windsofcreation]

his radio show is the best... hes entitled to his opinion... my only argument is that he should have pointed out that Lucks more passing attempts leads to more picks, that both he and griffin have the same amount of TD passes. that being said, he praises griffin almost daily and just says things we all wonder in the back of our minds.

I couldn't have said it better. So what if he's a "Skins hater". People are so jaded. He likes teams that win and have been winning over the past 5 years. That's who he praises and deservedly so for those teams.

[FSUSkins24]

Not totally buying into the premise that the colts were a real 2-14 team. Yes, they only won two games. But they had double digit wins the season before. They lost so many games because they had Curtis Painter as their starting quarterback for most of the season. Luck inherited a team that went 2-14 but had enough talent to be better than they were last year.

You also have to consider the fact that the Colts knew they didn't have Peyton, therefore knew they weren't going anywhere. How hard are you gonna play for a guy like Painter? You gonna give it your all like you would for Manning? Just throwin' it out there.

Also, don't confuse this with taking credit away from Luck, he is a real talent. I just don't buy into that the Colts were a true 2-14 team.

[The Robert Griffin Experience]

wrong thread

[Dirt]

What do you know, cowherd didn't do his homework.

He says stupid, uninformed things, and has come out and said he's proud of saying stupid, uninformed things. "It's a radio show, if you don't like it, blah blah etc.." tool.

[pjfootballer]

I wonder if Carolina would do well to start incorporating it into their offense.

They already do, but their line is in shambles right now, their runningbacks are not suited for this type of offense and Cam is not as fast getting off the line.

They lost their starting center and have kind of a rag-tag mix and match on their line. Plus, when they do have their regular linemen in, they aren't very mobile. They were built more for the power running game.

DeAngelo Williams works best out of the 1 back offense. Since Carolina keeps trying to incorporate a FB or the zone read, he is not very effective at this type of offense. Stewart is always injured and I don't think he possess the cutting ability it would take to run between the tackles.

Cam can run, but he's big and doesn't get off the line of scrimmage as fast as Griffin does. He'd be more like Tebow with the power running.

[skinsmania123]

Can anyone tell me why Mr Colin Cowherd flat out won't give the Redskins any credit for anything. I just heard him on NY ESPN.....all he could say was that RG3 can't hold a candle to Andrew Luck.

His reasoning is that RG3 always goes to his first read, while AL has the ability to progress thru all of his reads before making a decision. Supposedly, RG3 can't do that yet.

Also, AL is being asked to take the game onto his shoulders and win....example 50 attempts per game (a good way to justify 21 turnovers 16 ints/5 fumbles).

Just wondering......

I say do not care. There are always going to be critics regarding who is the best, who is better, etc. It is all perception which makes it somewhat subjective. When you look at the numbers in terms of protecting the football, scoring, strength of schedule, it is pretty clear that RG3 edges out Luck. The argument is that RG3 is not a "pure" pocket passer. Now he could be, BUT why should he given that he can keep Defenses on their heels trying to figure out what he can do based upon the number of looks and variables he brings to the game. He has so many variables to him that analysts can't get their heads around him and assume something is "off" and will eventually be exposed, thus the comparisons to Cam Newton, who by the way, is not as talented or versatile as RG3. I think these debates will end in the second to third years of these QB because the talent of both will be evident, although I suspect RG3 will continue to edge him out a bit and that will be noticed and finally accepted.

[MikeK]

You've got to understand Colin Cowherd. He creates controversy to get listeners mad and they want to keep listening. That in turn creates ratings. He even goes as far as making himself believe his made-up statements so that he's always on the same page with himself. Even though I don't really care for him, he is smart when it comes to marketing his program.

[2STaylor1]

I couldn't have said it better. So what if he's a "Skins hater". People are so jaded. He likes teams that win and have been winning over the past 5 years. That's who he praises and deservedly so for those teams.

yesterday he also said the redskins look like a playoff team so who knows..... the way i see it though, and no offense to anyone on this board but people have gotten really mad about talk show hosts saying how bad we are for the last 20 years calling them haters. well one up until this year we pretty much have been and i bet there are twice as many people on this board who have done the same.

[Dallsux]

Bottom line, I still think Luck is and will be a good QB but arguing that he has been a more effective player than RG3 simply because his team has a better record is overlooking a MOUNTAIN of evidence to the contrary. Given that there are 53 players on a team and players only play on one side of the ball, there is only so much one player can do to affect the outcome of the game. RG3 can't play cornerback or safety. As such, the most you can ask a QB to do is produce points efficiently and avoid turning the ball over and giving scoring opportunities to the other offense. It is extremely hard for anyone to reason that Luck has been better in those areas than RG3 has. I have every confidence that if we switched defenses and schedules with the Colts, we are 9-3 or better with a few lopsided wins.

Wow. Amazing & very well put together post. I nominate you to replace Coward. He is one of few people I truly despise.

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yesterday he also said the redskins look like a playoff team so who knows..... the way i see it though, and no offense to anyone on this board but people have gotten really mad about talk show hosts saying how bad we are for the last 20 years calling them haters. well one up until this year we pretty much have been and i bet there are twice as many people on this board who have done the same.

Well, Coward stands out for me. He isn't just a "hater", he is hateful. I used to listen to him prior to Taylor's death. 3 solid hours, 4 total topics. He repeats himself over & over & over & over & over & over.....& over again. He spent 1 solid hour talking about whether or not Roger Clemens' wife took steroids. Who cares?

But when he said that Sean Taylor essentially "had it comin'" when he was murdered, that was when I stopped listening. At the time, I was so angry that he said that, I would have attacked him physically if I ever saw him in public. I wouldn't have even had to think about it. I would have just walked up & started punching him maliciously, hoping to hospitalize him, knowing I would go to jail & thinking it would be worth it.

But, times have changed & I have changed (thank You, Lord) & even though I still don't like him (I can't even stand the sound of his voice), I just choose not to listen & try to influence others to do the same. The less people that listen, the sooner he gets taken off the air. I get tired of the half-informed dinglelings getting behind a mic & basing their whole opinion on half the story, half the numbers, rather than looking at the whole thing. Any one of us could do just as good a job as these bozos.

[Saqs]

Call me when Luck gets his own superhero:

[stevemcqueen1]

See what JPP said about facing Drew Brees after facing RGIII?

I guaran****ingtee you nobody says anything like that about Andrew Luck this year.

[skinsfan07]

See what JPP said about facing Drew Brees after facing RGIII?

I guaran****ingtee you nobody says anything like that about Andrew Luck this year.

Ain't no one scared of Luck like they are of RGIII. Luck is the typical rookie. RGIII is a seasoned vet.

[SteveFromYellowstone]

See what JPP said about facing Drew Brees after facing RGIII?

I guaran****ingtee you nobody says anything like that about Andrew Luck this year.

Defenses probably WANT to play Luck because of all those picks and fumbles he gives up. Dude has thrown at least 3 pick sixes this season.
Problem is that probably 12/16 games are against awful defenses

[tibbidoe]

It wouldn't be a candle anyway. It'd be a freakin' flame thrower...

[SteveFromYellowstone]

Oh man I've been seeing another terrible baseless argument lately, on the Giants boards especially. Apparently RG3 "can't read a defense".

From vaGiants boards:
"We know you love RG3....but if you honestly think he is good at reading defenses then wow. I really don't know what to say. "

"Anyone hear him speak during the post game interview? Let's just say his voice don't match his skin tone. He sounds like a white guy lol.
I think he's a great quarterback, however, he doesn't deserve the attention he's getting. I think once he learns to read defenses better as YA stated, he's going to keep taking a beating. "

" like RG III

but he will one day have to learn to read defenses

every play they run is based off the option , play action and the zone blocking scheme

go take a look at the Redskins 3rd and long percentage.......

if this kid had to drop back and read defenses the way Andrew Luck does in his offense he would get killed

at some point you need to read the coverage and throw the ball down the field

RG III can physically make all the throws......but he cannot yet read defenses and sooner or later he will have to learn or he will end up an injured mess

this is not college ....this is the NFL"

Are these people stupid? Bitter? Willfully ignorant?
Apparently RG3 can't read defenses and doesn't throw down field, even though RG3 has higher YPA and both of their yards per completed catch is 12.2