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    I don't think you can neglect the defense, our defense is really really poor. Certainly getting people back helps, but we need to add a number of starters too.

    We can do bend but don't break, but not too well, we break far too often.

    Offensively, I think the biggest gap is RT. Fix that, and we're doing ok. We could certainly upgrade the guards, and a blocking RB would be great, but our offense is decent even without those. The biggest thing at WR is probably someone to replace Moss if he retires/is cut. One of our young guys might step up, but I'm unsure of that.

    Offseason wishlist is pretty much the same as it's been most of the year, S, RT, CB, ILB, and maybe DE, NT, WR, OLB.
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    We need to fix our ****ing secondary and dedicate some significant resources to our offensive line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncr2h View Post
    I think if you look at the elite front offices around the league, they usually don't target DT in the 2nd round.
    I don't think you should ever target anything specifically in any round. You go according to your BPA. Most teams wouldn't have a punter as their BPA due to the BPA/Need grading scale that teams implement. Punters would register quite low, unless they're an off the chart talent. And even then I highly doubt they'd be higher than a 5th or 6th for any competent FO.

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    My first instinct is to scream "defensive secondary!!" loudly from the hilltops, but then I remember how last year it was the O-line that went down from injuries/suspensions and not the defense. At that time, we all seemed to be lamenting that the O-line had been neglected without enough depth. Who knows what unit it will be next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dposton View Post
    Remember when Peyton Manning was drafted by the Colts? The next few years of drafts were dedicated to getting all of the offensive weapons Peyton needed to be successful. they did this almost ignoring the defense. should the redskins do the same and build the defense through free agency?

    Nope. I have to agree and disagree with many on those on this board (We need NT, CB, SS,FS, RT etc etc.). We have more weaknesses than people think. I say come the draft get the BPA (excluding a QB).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadwiko View Post
    Not having first round picks completely changes the landscape.

    Our priorities at the moment go like this;

    #1 Safety
    #2 MLB (to replace Fletch when he retires)
    #3 CB
    You're dead on. I'm curious as to the status of Jackson and Meriweather next season. I like what we have as a whole. I can't see us not bringing back Davis. Throw in a healthy Helu, Rak, and Carriker. It's gonna be bad for the league.
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    I would go as far as arguing that the biggest improvement we could make on offense, is for our defense to improve. More short fields, more turnovers, and not having the pressure to score 30+ to win games. It happens a lot in baseball when pitchers don't get any run support. They feel they have to pitch perfectly in order to win, and a lot of times they get "too cute" and give up big innings. It's sort of the "inverse" of our problem, but you get the idea.

    I think we add a RT no matter what. After that, I wouldn't be disappointed if we spent every dime/draft pick on the defensive side of the ball. We are a good defense away from being legit contenders, versus having a "puncher's chance" because of our offense...which is what we have now.
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    FS #1
    Elite DL #2
    CB #3
    SS #4
    RT #5
    G #6
    TE #7

    (not the round, order of what I would want if I was ranking our top 7 needs)

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    Default Re: Should the Redskins follow the Peyton Manning Colts' Blueprint

    Quote Originally Posted by Chadwiko View Post
    Not having first round picks completely changes the landscape.

    Our priorities at the moment go like this;

    #1 Safety
    #2 MLB (to replace Fletch when he retires)
    #3 CB
    Keenan Robinson and the guy we picked up from Cincy are both 4th rounders, same as Perry Riley the guy beside Fletch. I'm not sure we need to write off the people we have to potentially replace Fletch, just because they weren't picked in the top half of the draft

    Right Tackle is a much greater need than MLB
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky21 View Post
    We need to fix our ****ing secondary and dedicate some significant resources to our offensive line.
    Under Shanny:

    Drafted Trent Williams, Erik Cook, Selvish Capers, Maurice Hurt, Adam Gettis, Josh Leribeus and Tom Compton

    Signed free agents Kory Lichtensteiger and Chris Chester (persued Eric Winston, Marshall Yanda and a couple of others that I can't think of off the top of my head)

    Tried 2nd tier guys like Willie Smith, Sean Locklear and Tyler Polumbus with zero given up for them (picks or money)

    Traded for Jammal Brown.

    Not sure what more you want Shanny to do. I'd love to pick up a RT, but I'd love to see Compton get a chance since he's now on the active roster. Gettis, LeRib, Hurt and now Compton are all on the active roster. Not bad for our last 4 OL draft choices.

    I'm not sure you understand that Pro Bowl linemen don't grow on trees and he's done everything outside of stealing to get some guys in here. I believe Winston would be in a Redskins uniform and not a Cheifs uniform if we had have not had cap money taken away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audible_Red40 View Post
    Defense Defense Defense.

    That is all.
    We need a stud on the DL. Preferably a stud NT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjfootballer View Post
    Under Shanny:

    Drafted Trent Williams, Erik Cook, Selvish Capers, Maurice Hurt, Adam Gettis, Josh Leribeus and Tom Compton

    Signed free agents Kory Lichtensteiger and Chris Chester (persued Eric Winston, Marshall Yanda and a couple of others that I can't think of off the top of my head)

    Tried 2nd tier guys like Willie Smith, Sean Locklear and Tyler Polumbus with zero given up for them (picks or money)

    Traded for Jammal Brown.

    Not sure what more you want Shanny to do. I'd love to pick up a RT, but I'd love to see Compton get a chance since he's now on the active roster. Gettis, LeRib, Hurt and now Compton are all on the active roster. Not bad for our last 4 OL draft choices.

    I'm not sure you understand that Pro Bowl linemen don't grow on trees and he's done everything outside of stealing to get some guys in here. I believe Winston would be in a Redskins uniform and not a Cheifs uniform if we had have not had cap money taken away.
    I'd like to see the organization dedicate significant resources to upgrading the offensive line. I agree the salary cap penalty has hurt in this regard but it looks like we hit on a couple of duds in LeRibeous and Gettis.
    “I just wanted to say to the fans … in D.C. and across the nation, they’ve been great for us, cheering us on. At away games they show up in the masses and at home they really made it feel like a home-field advantage. We said this when I was in college, ‘We got a chance to sit at the dinner table and experience success and it was a good meal. But now we want to go back to get dessert.’ We’ll be ready to get dessert next year.”

    Robert Griffin’s last words at the press conference.

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    Default Re: Should the Redskins follow the Peyton Manning Colts' Blueprint

    The Colts had a "blueprint"? The only blueprint Irsay had/has is being cheap.

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