Cam Newton reportedly targeted at Pro Bowl last year

[FSUSkins24]

because Tebow HASNT DONE THE RIGHT THING!!!! LMAO!!

You're right, Tebow is not the only athlete that does charity work. I guess it's not that difficult to throw a couple thou at a charity when you're making that much money. In my eyes, Tebow has always done it due to his religion and compassion for others. I can't say I've ever seen or heard anything to make me think the same about Cam.

It's pretty clear that our discussion about Tebow and Cam has come to its head. You have a hatred for Tebow that I'm not sure I've ever seen in anybody, and I have an opinion of Cam that won't be changed by somebody mocking my views on him or insinuating people with my opinion are racist. Also, you throw words around like delusional and deluded. It brings to mind that old saying. Pot meet kettle.

So good talk. I will continue to root for Cam to fail, because I know he is a POS...

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FSU: you're wasting your time with that guy. Let's see: 1. He's repeatedly defended Cam, despite all the evidence that he's a grade A douchebag 2. He was perfectly ok with Josh Brent being on the Dallas Cowboys' sideline, just over a week removed from driving drunk and killing a teammate 3. Has defended Michael Vick in several threads

I'm sure there are more examples like this..just giving you a small sample.

Oh yeah...how could I forget 4. He's forever talking **** about a guy (Tebow) that says and does all the right things and never gets into any trouble.

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It's funny to see how two stories told through "unnamed sources" are treated here. One is treated as the gospel and as a rallying point to dump on the "doucebag" while the other is people angry at the media for "making up a story."

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It's funny to see how two stories told through "unnamed sources" are treated here. One is treated as the gospel and as a rallying point to dump on the "doucebag" while the other is people angry at the media for "making up a story."

Rex Ryan has come out and said that the story isn't true about Tebow. And it's no surprise, as that would have been out of character for Tim Tebow. Ask yourself this question: if the story about Cam at the Pro Bowl wasn't true, then explain why the AFC defense was going after him like they were. Defenses usually treat that game as a glorified flag football game. If you watched that day, you knew there was something going on. The announcers even remarked on it. There's no way that Prisco story isn't true. Especially considering all the douchebaggery Cam had displayed both before and after that weekend.

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It's funny to see how two stories told through "unnamed sources" are treated here. One is treated as the gospel and as a rallying point to dump on the "doucebag" while the other is people angry at the media for "making up a story."

you see it.

Rex Ryan has come out and said that the story isn't true about Tebow.

Ray Lewis said the story with Cam wasnt true, and you still chose to believe it. Nope, I see RIGHT through you.

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you see it.


Ray Lewis said the story with Cam wasnt true, and you still chose to believe it. Nope, I see RIGHT through you.

If the story isn't true, then explain why the AFC defense went at him as they did? Did you even watch the game?

And you yourself mentioned that Cam attended Ray Lewis' camp over the summer. Do you not think it's possible that Lewis said the story wasn't true because Cam attended his camp? C'mon, man. You pick some of the oddest battles...

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You're right, Tebow is not the only athlete that does charity work. I guess it's not that difficult to throw a couple thou at a charity when you're making that much money. In my eyes, Tebow has always done it due to his religion and compassion for others. I can't say I've ever seen or heard anything to make me think the same about Cam.

yea, this is a different case right here. Show an example of Cam's charity work and you choose to discredit it anyway. (including some where Cam is visiting kids in hospitals). Good thing you are admitting you are a hypocrite.

It's pretty clear that our discussion about Tebow and Cam has come to its head. You have a hatred for Tebow that I'm not sure I've ever seen in anybody, and I have an opinion of Cam that won't be changed by somebody mocking my views on him or insinuating people with my opinion are racist. Also, you throw words around like delusional and deluded. It brings to mind that old saying. Pot meet kettle.

Last time, I dont hate Tebow. I never dismissed his charity work like you just did with Cam. I never said Tebow was a bad person like you continuously do with Cam. All I have ever asked for is fairness in how you view the two. Tebow just quit on his team this weekend, or at the very least asked out plays because he was upset that someone else was starting over him. You defended that. Cam gives immature press conferences and celebrates after TDs, and you scold that

I know which one is worse, and I know you do too. But for whatever reason you chose to defend one over the other.


edit: and Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin, this is what I said earlier about speaking on race. I never said anyone was racist on here but instead coverage of players are race biased (which isnt the same as racist) and now dude thinks im calling him racist again.

If the story isn't true, then explain why the AFC defense went at him as they did? Did you even watch the game?

And you yourself mentioned that Cam attended Ray Lewis' camp over the summer. Do you not think it's possible that Lewis said the story wasn't true because Cam attended his camp? C'mon, man. You pick some of the oddest battles...

And did you ever bother to think that Rex Ryan just doesnt want more of a distraction over this situation than whats already there, so he decided to defend Tebow? Nah, couldnt be that, Rex Ryan has to be telling the 100% truth while Ray Lewis has to be telling lies to defend Cam. I get it.

[FSUSkins24]

yea, this is a different case right here. Show an example of Cam's charity work and you choose to discredit it anyway. (including some where Cam is visiting kids in hospitals). Good thing you are admitting you are a hypocrite.


Last time, I dont hate Tebow. I never dismissed his charity work like you just did with Cam. I never said Tebow was a bad person like you continuously do with Cam. All I have ever asked for is fairness in how you view the two. Tebow just quit on his team this weekend, or at the very least asked out plays because he was upset that someone else was starting over him. You defended that. Cam gives immature press conferences and celebrates after TDs, and you scold that

I know which one is worse, and I know you do too. But for whatever reason you chose to defend one over the other.

edit: and Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin, this is what I said earlier about speaking on race. I never said anyone was racist on here but instead coverage of players are race biased (which isnt the same as racist) and now dude thinks im calling him racist again.

So then what is your argument? You don't hate Tebow, you're not accusing those of us in this thread who dislike Cam as being racist? What is it? You're not gonna get fairness in some situations. I think Tom Brady is a royal douche, while I love RG3 and guys like Ken Griffey Jr. You gonna argue for fairness of how I view those three?

The bottom line is that my opinion is my opinion. If I choose to hate Cam and Tom Brady because I think they are douches, while liking Peyton Manning, RG3, and someone like Ken Griffey Jr. because I view them as good people, who are you to tell me how i should view them? If you have a problem with that, I suggest you stop attempting to force your views on others.

I addressed my opinion of race in the media in my first post responding to you. Would you like me to clap for Cam's charity work? Good job Cam!

I'm not apologizing for the fact that I view Cam Newton as phony bologna.

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FSU: you're wasting your time with that guy. Let's see: 1. He's repeatedly defended Cam, despite all the evidence that he's a grade A douchebag 2. He was perfectly ok with Josh Brent being on the Dallas Cowboys' sideline, just over a week removed from driving drunk and killing a teammate 3. Has defended Michael Vick in several threads

I'm sure there are more examples like this..just giving you a small sample.

Oh yeah...how could I forget 4. He's forever talking **** about a guy (Tebow) that says and does all the right things and never gets into any trouble.

Much appreciated, and if I had seen this sooner I wouldn't have given him another response. Oh well, I don't even know what he is arguing anymore.

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Rex Ryan has come out and said that the story isn't true about Tebow. And it's no surprise, as that would have been out of character for Tim Tebow. Ask yourself this question: if the story about Cam at the Pro Bowl wasn't true, then explain why the AFC defense was going after him like they were. Defenses usually treat that game as a glorified flag football game. If you watched that day, you knew there was something going on. The announcers even remarked on it. There's no way that Prisco story isn't true. Especially considering all the douchebaggery Cam had displayed both before and after that weekend.

Of course he's going to say it isn't true because it undermines him and the organization (granted we're not talking about the classiest or strongest organization), that the backup quarterback can call shots on when and in what situations he plays. I don't know about you but I don't exactly take Rex Ryan's word at face value, haha. The reason I give credence to this story is that the Jets organization has probably had more leaks come from it in the last two years then any other sports organization in history, and all of the stories have been pretty dead on. I also wouldn't be surprised if the leaks come from Woody Johnson himself, dude is a clown who always wants his team in the news.

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Of course he's going to say it isn't true because it undermines him and the organization (granted we're not talking about the classiest or strongest organization), that the backup quarterback can call shots on when and in what situations he plays. I don't know about you but I don't exactly take Rex Ryan's word at face value, haha. The reason I give credence to this story is that the Jets organization has probably had more leaks come from it in the last two years then any other sports organization in history, and all of the stories have been pretty dead on. I also wouldn't be surprised if the leaks come from Woody Johnson himself, dude is a clown who always wants his team in the news.

I don't see how it would undermine the organization by not saying that the story isn't true. Besides, if Tebow isn't gonna be there next year, why does it benefit Ryan to say anything?

This was obviously sketchy journalism. It's someone with a lot of time on their hands, looking for a story. And it goes against everything Tebow stands for. He's a high-character guy. Thought the article was BS the minute I saw it. And Ryan validated as much.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

So then what is your argument? You don't hate Tebow, you're not accusing those of us in this thread who dislike Cam as being racist? What is it? You're not gonna get fairness in some situations. I think Tom Brady is a royal douche, while I love RG3 and guys like Ken Griffey Jr. You gonna argue for fairness of how I view those three?

nah, I just ask that you state that you are biased for/against some. Thats it. It doesnt mean you or anyone is a racist, and I am insulted you said that. If you say that from the jumpstreet, you believe Tebow is golden and will excuse every instance of him being an privileged egomaniac because you like him, then thats cool. That is all.

The bottom line is that my opinion is my opinion. If I choose to hate Cam and Tom Brady because I think they are douches, while liking Peyton Manning, RG3, and someone like Ken Griffey Jr. because I view them as good people, who are you to tell me how i should view them? If you have a problem with that, I suggest you stop attempting to force your views on others.

Right, just admit you are giving contradictory stances in how you view the actions of Tebow and Cam and its sorted. How Cam doing a superman dance bothers you more than Tebow asking out of plays and quitting on his team. And be real and say it bothers you more because its Cam and doesnt bother you at all because its Tebow.

I addressed my opinion of race in the media in my first post responding to you. Would you like me to clap for Cam's charity work? Good job Cam!

I'm not apologizing for the fact that I view Cam Newton as phony bologna.

Congrats for admitting your hypocritical stances on these two. Thanks m8.

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I don't see how it would undermine the organization by not saying that the story isn't true. Besides, if Tebow isn't gonna be there next year, why does it benefit Ryan to say anything?

This was obviously sketchy journalism. It's someone with a lot of time on their hands, looking for a story. And it goes against everything Tebow stands for. He's a high-character guy. Thought the article was BS the minute I saw it. And Ryan validated as much.

absolutely hilarious

You are a good troll. I commend you.

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Of course he's going to say it isn't true because it undermines him and the organization (granted we're not talking about the classiest or strongest organization), that the backup quarterback can call shots on when and in what situations he plays. I don't know about you but I don't exactly take Rex Ryan's word at face value, haha. The reason I give credence to this story is that the Jets organization has probably had more leaks come from it in the last two years then any other sports organization in history, and all of the stories have been pretty dead on. I also wouldn't be surprised if the leaks come from Woody Johnson himself, dude is a clown who always wants his team in the news.

I bet it came from someone on the coaching staff.

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yea, this is a different case right here. Show an example of Cam's charity work and you choose to discredit it anyway. (including some where Cam is visiting kids in hospitals). Good thing you are admitting you are a hypocrite.Are you really trying to sell the story that Cam is more charitable than Tim Tebow?..Really?..Ever hear of the story Tebow and the little boy BEFORE Denver played Pittsburgh in the playoffs last year? Just goes to show you where this guy's heart is. Biggest game of his life (NFL, anyway) and he's putting a little kid's feelings before everything. Tebow is WELL KNOWN to be a charitable person. Cam is well known for being a douchebag. I give him credit for doing whatever charitable work he does. But he will always be a douchebag.


Last time, I dont hate Tebow. I never dismissed his charity work like you just did with Cam. I never said Tebow was a bad person like you continuously do with Cam.He IS a bad person! LOL All I have ever asked for is fairness in how you view the two. Tebow just quit on his team this weekend, or at the very least asked out plays because he was upset that someone else was starting over him.Wrong. The story is untrue. You defended that. Cam gives immature press conferences and celebrates after TDs, and you scold thatDoesn't sign autographs for another player's son at Pro Bowl. Calls a female reporter "sweetheart" at a press conference. Bumps officials. Kicks opposing players. Steals laptops. Has dad pimp out his services to highest bidder in college. etc

I know which one is worse, and I know you do too. But for whatever reason you chose to defend one over the other.


edit: and Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin, this is what I said earlier about speaking on race. I never said anyone was racist on here but instead coverage of players are race biased (which isnt the same as racist) and now dude thinks im calling him racist again.



And did you ever bother to think that Rex Ryan just doesnt want more of a distraction over this situation than whats already there, so he decided to defend Tebow? Nah, couldnt be that, Rex Ryan has to be telling the 100% truth while Ray Lewis has to be telling lies to defend Cam. I get it.

LOL Ryan doesn't care about distractions, man. In fact, he INVITES them. He's likely defending Tebow because it never happened the way the d-bag journalist said it did. Sorry, but I choose to believe a guy that's IN the locker room over your opinion.

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I bet it came from someone on the coaching staff.

You like to speculate a lot, don't you? In fact, this is now two of your major talking points are based on your speculation.

1) (you think) McElroy outperforms Tebow in practice.
2) (you think) That report came from a coach.

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By the way, I don't think anyone has a problem with Cam doing his Superman thing after a TD, as long as they aren't losing 23-0!!...But the reason I don't like the Superman celebration is because it's unoriginal. Shaq was Superman. Then Dwight Howard. It's played out (does anyone still say that?).

FWIW, I don't even really like it when Moss or Garcon do the ball spinning thing. I think it's silly.

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Are you really trying to sell the story that Cam is more charitable than Tim Tebow?..Really?..Ever hear of the story Tebow and the little boy BEFORE Denver played Pittsburgh in the playoffs last year? Just goes to show you where this guy's heart is. Biggest game of his life (NFL, anyway) and he's putting a little kid's feelings before everything. Tebow is WELL KNOWN to be a charitable person. Cam is well known for being a douchebag. I give him credit for doing whatever charitable work he does. But he will always be a douchebag.

your reading sucks, my friend. I didnt suggest ANYONE was more charitable than anyone. You read that because you wanted to read what you wanted to read. What I stated is that Cam is very charitable himself and FSUSkins24 dismissed it because he doesnt like Cam. Try reading better.

He IS a bad person! LOL

insane. you've never met dude and you are saying that. Just batty

Wrong. The story is untrue.

no, its true. I even posted Adam Schefter stating what Tebow told him. Its true, but you choose to not believe it because you dont want to believe it.

Doesn't sign autographs for another player's son at Pro Bowl. Calls a female reporter "sweetheart" at a press conference. Bumps officials. Kicks opposing players. Steals laptops. Has dad pimp out his services to highest bidder in college. etc

lol, of all the things. LOL. You blame him for his dad selling him to a college. He called a reporter sweetheart, and you think thats horrible? I hope you feel the same way about Riggins saying "Loosen up Sandy." That was much worse/

and if you saw the play, Tommy Kelly was twisting Cam's leg after he was on the ground and admitted he was trying to take him out the game. I bet you wanted Cam to get hurt tho.

LOL Ryan doesn't care about distractions, man. In fact, he INVITES them. He's likely defending Tebow because it never happened the way the d-bag journalist said it did. Sorry, but I choose to believe a guy that's IN the locker room over your opinion.

the last 12 months Rex Ryan has been very conservative about what he says in the media, especially since the Jets are not winning. He didnt want this distraction.