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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsinparadise View Post
    Compton promoted today, wonder if he is the answer at RT. He's highly rated in Kiper's 2012 draft book. Athletic -- good speed.
    My guess would be AOBJB.
    With Trent being banged up it seems prudent to prep someone to play LT just in case and anyone but Jordan Black seems like the right answer.

    I liked Tom Compton during training camp. Considering he was a rookie I thought he was playing close enough to Tyler Polumbus to challenge him for the RT spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    That has been in the works for awhile..Compton received a big raise a few weeks ago after a team tried to grab him off our PS. Compton had no intentions of leaving and we had no intentions of losing him.
    I know the answer to my question is probably embedded in your quote, but does our staff believe that Compton could be our answer at RT or do you think we will still look to pick one up through FA or the draft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy View Post
    Then would you say that Morris is having just as impressive of a season as RG3? Because I think he is.
    Not quite, but certainly up there. RG3 is having a historical rookie year, arguably the best in the history of the NFL. Morris is having a great one, but he's still probably the #2 RB in this draft to the muscle hamster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #BgMase76# View Post
    This kid makes everyone look and play better.
    I totally agree with you.
    FS, MLB?, RT?, SS, TE, CB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahons21 View Post
    Not quite, but certainly up there. RG3 is having a historical rookie year, arguably the best in the history of the NFL. Morris is having a great one, but he's still probably the #2 RB in this draft to the muscle hamster.
    If he breaks the franchise record for rushing in his rookie year, behind an "average at best" OL...that is by definition historic.

    And I'm not disagreeing with you, we're totally on the same page. I'm just trying to give Al Mo some love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy View Post
    If he breaks the franchise record for rushing in his rookie year, behind an "average at best" OL...that is by definition historic.

    And I'm not disagreeing with you, we're totally on the same page. I'm just trying to give Al Mo some love.
    I'm totally fine with that! I think dude is an absolute beast. Call me crazy, but with his vision in the ZBS, I could see him posting similar numbers to Arian, if he were on that Houston team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahons21 View Post
    Stupid question, but a player can say no if a team tries to sign them off a PS? I thought if a team claimed you, you couldn't stay on the PS, you had to be promoted.

    IE, the reason we signed Aldrick last year.
    It all comes down to the players agent and the player. They can choose to not go if they wish, does not happen a lot but is a option. Compton was making 96,000 a year on PS, teams started calling and we gave him a raise to 395,000 and left him on PS until now. A team can keep you if they really want to keep you ie give them more money etc.. Players on PS normally know if they have a legit shot at the 53 or if they are just a body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy View Post
    I know the answer to my question is probably embedded in your quote, but does our staff believe that Compton could be our answer at RT or do you think we will still look to pick one up through FA or the draft?
    We gave him $400,000 to stay on the PS until today, that says it all bro.

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    Makes sense, glad to hear Compton is comitted to the Redskins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    We gave him $400,000 to stay on the PS until today, that says it all bro.
    Thanks LL, I didn't realize how big of a raise he got. That's awesome! The less pieces we have to add in the offseason, the better. Here's to him making a convincing argument for the rest of the year and (hope, hope) the postseason.

    I bet GHH is bumping his "straight outta Compton" thread as I type this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphs56 View Post
    Montgomery and Trent are playing at an elite level.
    I was about to say the same thing. The other three could be upgraded.

    But even if RG3 is making the line look better than they actually are, he is not alone. Alfred Morris and Kyle Shanahan gets props too. This Zone Read, Pistol, Playaction stuff is hard to stop right now. But when it is all said and done, RG3 should get most of the credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    My guess would be AOBJB.
    With Trent being banged up it seems prudent to prep someone to play LT just in case and anyone but Jordan Black seems like the right answer.

    I liked Tom Compton during training camp. Considering he was a rookie I thought he was playing close enough to Tyler Polumbus to challenge him for the RT spot.
    Makes sense he played if i recall LT in camp. Gettis is another guy rated highly by some of the draft geeks, also athletic, wonder about his future.
    Last edited by Skinsinparadise; December-5th-2012 at 06:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    I don't agree with the stat, Advanced stats has not been a very good site. I do think Griff is outperforming the Oline. Last season they allowed pressure on 37.1% & 2012 is similar at 35%. A majority of the pressure comes from LG and RT, rest of the line has been pretty good.
    Yea, I dont' really get how the stat works, and I'm not sure it does. For instance, our scheme lets DE's run free on purpose sometimes, the guards and tackles run around, and up the field. Does this 'stat' think that means the guys are out of position? Rather than Rob outperforming the line, perhaps the 2 just work together very well, scheme-wise.

    But yea, to the naked eye, you can see RG3 outrun what is definitely a sack for 31 other QBs.
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    Default Re: WP-RGIII is vastly outperforming his offensive line

    He makes the offensive line better. But don't anyone tell oldfan that.
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    Oh yes. I remember almost a year ago when there was heated debates on this site about how there was no way we could justify trading away so many draft picks to get one player (even if that player is RG3) because we have a bad o-line and if we cannot protect him then what good is he anyway? I was one to always say that if you could find a legitimate QB, then that QB will make up for a lot of deficiency the o-line may have. In particular a QB that is an absolute nightmare in the open-field and has a quick release. Yes, a lot of people at that time wanted to use those picks to improve the o-line and sign a stop-gap FA QB... or worse wait until the later rounds and mold a QB. If we had done that, I think we'd be 2-10 right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    It all comes down to the players agent and the player. They can choose to not go if they wish, does not happen a lot but is a option. Compton was making 96,000 a year on PS, teams started calling and we gave him a raise to 395,000 and left him on PS until now. A team can keep you if they really want to keep you ie give them more money etc.. Players on PS normally know if they have a legit shot at the 53 or if they are just a body.

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    We gave him $400,000 to stay on the PS until today, that says it all bro.
    . Money talks, eh?

    With that said, gotta think sticking with DC is/was the way to go for Compton. Rookie 'franchise' back and a rookie franchise qb that probably make their o-line look much better than they are? An obvious need at RT, backup LT and a swing guy? Yeah, he's in a great position (no pun intended) here.

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