If you'd said to me in the May of that year that 21 years I'd still be waiting for either another Redskins SB or L'pool League title, such was the dominance of both back then, I'd of laughed in your face. How times change, sighs.
And yeah, with 10 at the helm, I'm liking the Redskins chances of getting back to the top spot first much better.
Last edited by Gibbs Hog Heaven; December-13th-2012 at 10:30 AM.
I found it easier to focus positively on where we are now and where we are going, rather than dredge up what we had done in the past. If I didn't fully placate the answer you were hoping for, my sincerest apologies, sir.
I vow never to mention the Cork City Rebels again.
You went on to claim....
Here's the thread. Post #94 is quite instructive.This thread was inspired by one begun the other day complaining about the quitters amongst us. The author was referring to the posters of the type who inhabit the gameday thread I'm told (I don't participate) but a few of the posters in it took it a step further to register the usual homer complaints about their fellow members who they look down on as negative posters.
Gosh, I wonder who could have written that? Clearly *someone* thinks that their threads and comments are above reproach and no one should be allowed to enter "their" thread to contradict him.It doesn't bother me when you homers get together in a thread to agree that you are superior fans. What bothers me is when you do it in threads that I start. I can't being to tell you how often I've been hit with being a negative poster. I really don't give a damn. i realize that some people just have to satisfy their need to feel superior. But, please, do it in your own threads, not in mine.
I came here tonight to celebrate a Redskins win with fellow Skins fans. I didn't come here to hear the home majority carp about other members.
Screw this place.
Oh, and here is that same poster again...
Seems this poster has a rather overblown sense of superiority and enjoys demeaning others.You are living in a fantasy world if you feel your "faith" is being rewarded. You imagine that you have earned special privileges to enjoy Redskins wins because you are foolishly unable to separate your hopes from your expectations.
The jury is still out on the Shanahan reign, so let's not count that. I have predicted high-level mediocrity, a team that averages 8.5 wins tops, but we'll see. Prior to Shanahan's hiring I was optimistic twice during the Snyder era. I supported the hirings of Steve Spurrier and Jim Zorn and was spectacularly wrong both times. Aside from that, I have been negative on all the major moves while the majority of Redskins fans have supported every one of them: the hirings of coaches, the major trades, trading picks for vets, and the big name free agents.
I would estimate there were 25 such moves since Snyder bought the team. So, my record on major predictions is about 23-2 while the majority of fans are 0-25. You homers think that there's something praiseworthy about blind optimism. There isn't. Optimism or pessimism without good reason are simply dumb.
But apparently these disparaging remarks about "homer" posters were not enough. "Someone" had to start a new thread to again claim mental superiority and disparage any "homer" who would dare to disagree with him.
Ego driven indeed.
My view is that realistic expectations and optimism/pessimism exist somewhat on separate scales.
There's present realistic assessments, but optimism/pessimism should deal, at least from the way I define them, purely with the future.
A present realistic assessment would be that our pass protection is ok, and has problems mainly because of right tackle, a lack of blocking runningbacks, and having very average blocking TEs, but that our guard positions, while passable, could be upgraded if given the chance. There's unrealistic assessments, like saying our line is great, needing no replacements, and the flip-side, that our line is terrible and we need to replace everyone right of Trent asap. Homerism leads one way, negativity the other, but ultimately everyone is going to have different opinions and it's just a matter of support.
Optimism and pessimism (and homerism and haterism) would be looking to the future and thinking about what's going to happen. I don't think there's really a need to be wildly pessimistic about things, generally. Optimism is that we'll fix the Oline and pass protection problems, pessimism is that we won't. Unless one cannot devise a scenario where we fix the problems we see, I don't think it's necessary to start out from a pessimistic point looking towards the future.
Also calling Godwins Law.
It actually would be instructive for someone impartial to read both parts of that exchange. But in the hands of a biased critic like you, it's deceptive.Here's the thread. Post #94 is quite instructive.
The homer I confronted was typically whining about fellow members who, unlike him, had the gall to post negative comments about his team.
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I write this to encourage more negative voices in this forum. I'm not referring to those who enjoy second guessing every coach's decision that fails or those who trash players beyond reason. I'm encouraging those who try very hard to be realistic and fair to speak up and be heard when you don't agree with the decisions of Redskins management. Don't worry that your opinions won't be popular with the homer crowd. Take solace in the fact that, so far in the Snyder era, the homers have been consistently wrong.
Now, if that wasn't clear to you, then my subsequent posts denying other positions should have made it crystal clear. So, why do we still have posters griping about being confused?
Last edited by Oldfan; December-13th-2012 at 11:24 AM.
I suggest everyone just let Oldfan be. His heels are dug in because a few people agreed with him and the rest of us are hopeless... or smart asses (that's me!)... or didn't read the OP... or did read the OP but can't comprehend "perfect" English... or are just throwing crap against the wall (me again!).... or homers who deserve to be skewered.
I tried not to post again after last night's debacle, but I find it hard to believe that another 7-8 pages of argument (not debate) have continued since then. It's pretty ridiculous and I won't be back in this thread.
Hail to the Redskins.
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