More arguing Oldfan's "You don't hire someone with a record of mediocrity" comment. And it's even more frustrating because if you pay attention and aren't pre-disposed to disliking Mike Shanahan to start, you'd notice Mike adopting some of the same philosophy that the Patriots have adopted.
We moved to a 3-4 defense in part because of the success the Patriots and Steelers had running it. The last three years, the Redskins haven't drafted an underclassmen and only gone for four year starters who were team captains who won multiple awards, which is a page taken directly from the Patriots drafting strategy. (RG3 was technically a redshirt junior, but he would've been a four year starter and had already graduated). The same thing with moving up and down in the draft, particulatly moving down in the draft to acquire more value for picks. Trading veterans for picks. Signing older, veteran players and allowing them to come and compete with younger players, while signing young-ish talent that aren't household names to reasonable, fairly priced contracts.
Much of the negativity Oldfan holds for Mike Shanahan seems to fly directly in the face of evidence suggesting that the team is actually doing what he wants. Which is ultimately the point of contention I and many others have with him and his posting style. It's not a "frustrating debate style". It's completely ignoring anything that would otherwise interfere with whatever notion he has put forward. Is there room on this board for some objectivity? Yes, there is. Is getting bent out of shape over some ribbing of the more extreme negative posters in the game dead thread worth a whole thread white knighting for said negative posters? Probably not.
If his "debate style" is sticking his fingers in his ears and refusing to listen to any opinion that doesn't completely jive with his, that's not a debate style. It's being incredibly stubborn and willingly ignorant.