But, if you are looking for a racehorse with the potential to win stakes races, you look for a three-year old who shows promise. You don't expect a 5-year old with a mediocre racing record to suddenly blossom.
Last edited by Oldfan; December-13th-2012 at 10:50 PM.
Snyder wants to win badly. If he was purely in it to make a good show, he wouldn't have gone of that spending spree in the early 2000s. He wouldn't have shelled out obscene amounts of money for high profile free agents like Haynesworth, Archuleta, Sanders, etc. etc. WE ALL KNOW THE LIST! (*starts crying*) He would have gone the route of the Bucs, spending as little as possible on the roster.
Instead, he was so willing to spend money that we had to dish out 170+M just to get to some level of normalcy when the uncapped year happened.
He wouldn't also get so emotionally involved with the team. Remember in '08 when he was freaking out because we were 3-1 or something. Or just a couple weeks ago when he was saying how much he hated the Giants. Snyder is a fan and loves this team as much as any of us do. He's a business man, and you can see that, but he's a fan.
And while we sometimes disagree on decisions as fans, we all *should* not question each other's desire to see the team be the best (it happens sometimes but it shouldn't), and we should equally not question Snyder's desire to see the team be the best.
Again, the problem is figuring out the right people to get you there, he has had trouble with that part in the past.
That argument in that thread was not about whether Norv was a good coach. My argument was that, at that particular time, Norv was the best fit for the Chargers because they wanted continuity with the offensive scheme that Norv created in San Diego in LT's rookie year. Norv had to be given the HC position in order to take him away from the Niners. Norv was basically an OC with a HC title.
The Chargers had to replace seven coaches. Marty basically fire himself and two other coaches got HC positions. Norv did what they expected of him. The offense flourished until A.J. Smith's luck ran out. Injuries out-paced the new talent.
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The way I look at it. I can suspect being number one isn't Dan's goal or I can suspect he's a dimwit -- because the Shanahan and Allen hires don't make sense in that context. They both had a decade to show the kind of potential needed to do that job and couldn't cut it.
Last edited by Oldfan; December-13th-2012 at 11:43 PM.
And what you described pretty much explains Jim Zorn, and we saw what happened there.
Last edited by NLC1054; December-13th-2012 at 11:47 PM.
Right again.you just know that they were terrible choices
Another strawman.because of some arbitrary goal you've set of having every aspect of the Redskins be like the Belichick-led Patriots.
i see no connection at all to Jim Zorn.And what you described pretty much explains Jim Zorn, and we saw what happened there.
Oldfan, what improvements do you feel Mike has made this year? Do you feel like some of the mediocrity that you feel about his career in general will eventually be overshadowed in the long run by these improvements?
Head coaches DO "blossom" with age. Tom Coughlin had FAR less success in Jacksonville than Shanahan in Denver before moving to a new team and winning two Superbowls. And while outsiders (including myself) panned Bill Belichick for his time with the browns (watch a football life to see what real respected football minds say about that) He went to New England and took a fast track to the hall of fame.
But I'm done here. You exist in your own alternate universe and it is painfully clear you have no intention of leaving your comfortable fantasy world.
As great as he is, we paid a high price for RG3. The more we use his wheels, the more risk we take of injury.
I don't think RG3 will be enough to break us free of the mediocre level. I think Shanahan will need big drafts over the next couple of years to get us there. He will need to do better than he has in past years.
Last edited by Oldfan; December-14th-2012 at 12:12 AM.
Snyder gets emotional about this team. He gets giddy when they win and frustrated when they lose. He shows more emotion than most other owners. Sure, he's a business guy, and quite possibly a greedy business guy, but unless he's also a sociopath faking emotions, he's also a fan.
And I'm not going to question a fan's desire to see his team be number 1.
If you think he's a dimwit, that's fine, that's an opinion, and prior to 2010 I'd probably have agreed with you. He's made some boneheaded moves. But to accuse a fan of not wanting to see his team be #1, I think the burden of proof lies on you to prove that. And him simply having a profit motive is circumstantial evidence, not hard proof.
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