I am a homer but I cannot argue with you on the Tyler Polumbus issue - but he was not plan A . Brown was plan A... (all that time ago) and Polumbus is playing better now than he was earlier in the season . I am not sure about who you are talking about with the player we cut who is playing better - because Willie Smith is buried on the depth chart on the Raiders (raiders man) or Lockclear in NY - who is playing exceptionally - but it is a different scheme in NY which might be helping - but he was horrible last season here - it was because he played so badly that Polumbus is on the roster at all
The team should never have relied on Brown coming back (that's true but there was not much option) - Bell and Winston were the big talents in FA and both have been HUGE disappointments with their new teams - they might have worked out here - but signs are not optimistic - even when we resigned Brown - there were not a massive amount of options in the limited free agency - we could have addressed the position in the draft - and we had options - but the draft is a crap shoot and i have been happy with what we got this season - 2010 is looking a little sloppy right now - but we are where we are . RT needs massive help - and I am not sure to be honest how much the offensive line needs more time and how much it needs more personnel .
Just to bring up your other point I think when M Williams was not a mistake but he was a signing I thought would not even make it through the training camp - We didn't have a massive list of options here - especially in their price bracket - and then you consider Williams was again not plan A - they were hoping Gomes could be at least a positive step forward and could be a primary back up - but that did not happen - then you hoped Jackson would have been the guy, the startert - and that did not happen - and when you are down to your third option - your banker - then things are going to be bad - and while you want quality depth - just how deep does that depth have to be . That said - there is very little to be optimistic about the secondary - Maybe we could have something in Minnifield and Bernstein but both of those are on IR -
thing is I can even with my B&G glasses on see that these players are horrible - Williams is very slow - and Polumbus seems just generally over matched - but the risk is you look too closely at the weak links - focus on what isn't then you miss what it is good - for goodness sake you have a thread on the first page saying we should trade Alfred Morris away ....
I am not trying to rationalize why we have such poor players - but what I am saying it taking a step back - what other options where there (and this is a genuine question) and would we be any better off or just moaning about the same positions but different names ..
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I'm not at all interested in your opinion of me. And I'm not interested in explaining to you how one can be realistic and enjoy the season.
This thread is meant to encourage posters who are fair-minded and realistic to write their opinions even when unpopular with this group.
[QUOTE=Oldfan;9321915]Your is the 10th different hidden motive posters have assigned to what I wrote. Who do people do that? Do you have hidden motives when you start a thread?
Of course I left out facts. I do that when I'm trying to be concise for an audience with a short attention span.[/QUOT
So your admitting that you are just wanting to screw with people with half the facts...interesting..... but you are correct in the gibbs II venture that a lot of fans wanted to get this and that in Big name FA's... but things have changed since then.
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Oh i see you are trying to be negative and hopes that people will not flip out......good luck there....
Willie Smith started 7 games this season and played in 9 games and is rated higher then Tyler Polumbus by PFF:
Eric Winston-PFF:https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...rowns-week-14/Originally Posted by PFF
You should have left it at re-signing Brown was a mistake.
I come from a results focused business (like football) where outcomes are judged on results not intentions. M. Williams along with the other moves a S lead us to our current state of affairs at the position. There is no way around it.Just to bring up your other point I think when M Williams was not a mistake but he was a signing I thought would not even make it through the training camp - We didn't have a massive list of options here - especially in their price bracket - and then you consider Williams was again not plan A -
Fiction. Being objective in no way means I miss what is good. I pretty much state this in my previous post.thing is I can even with my B&G glasses on see that these players are horrible - Williams is very slow - and Polumbus seems just generally over matched - but the risk is you look too closely at the weak links - focus on what isn't then you miss what it is good -
Is this an example of me missing what is good: http://www.extremeskins.com/showthre...=1#post9321971
That may not be your intent but its exactly what you're doing.I am not trying to rationalize why we have such poor players
There were other options and all we would do is speculate back and forth about their level of benefit. Give me a scouting deptartment and a staff of player personnel people and I can more accurately answer your questions about what other options there were. But lets not pretend that there aren't better options when the players at RT and S are near league worst.- but what I am saying it taking a step back - what other options where there (and this is a genuine question) and would we be any better off or just moaning about the same positions but different names
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Oldfan, I'm going to stray from the rest of the crowd and say:
While I don't agree with everything that you post. You bring a unique perspective to ES that I respect and will continue to read. In any society, it take all types, and your posts are very well thought out... even the ones that I disagree with.
We seem to disagree as often as we agree, but that doesn't matter to me and I know it doesn't to you. Consequently, I don't worry about the wording of my posts when we disagree. I do have a habit of not qualifying every opinion with "I think" or "IMO," which makes me sound more arrogant than I really am. But, I don't worry about that when we exchange opinions.
I think of you as a friend.
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