Thoughts of a Negative Poster

[RandyHolt]

I respectfully suggest that balanced posts are the way to go.

Campbell Sucks!!!!!!1!

Jason Campbell is the BEST EVAR!!1!!!

Does anyone really even think twice if they see posts like that?

It's not that hard to have some balance. You can get your shot in, yet still gain some respect of those that disagree with you. They are more apt to respect your opinion, because they respect your post. Jason Campbell and his big strong arm may struggle in Zorn's quick short passing game. Portis looked like Riggo breaking through the LOS but seems to be awkwardly falling down near the ends of his runs. Al Saunders, an offensive genius, was probably foolish to unload his 800 page playbook on Jason, all at once.

I respect balanced posters far more than any other type.

[Oldfan]

I don't think you can generalize the mood of the board based on one trade.

I wasn't. But you said you thought the negativity was balanced.

Not saying of course that's how everyone should be -- just saying for me I find it more interesting. If I know someone will dig in their heels and be reflex positive or negative, for me it can get boring to have a dialogue with them.

I've spent more time discussing the Skins with you than I have with any other poster -- and for the same reason. I know you are trying to be fair and realistic. It doesn't matter that we often disagree.

---------- Post added December-12th-2012 at 01:57 PM ----------

...I try to see things rationally, but then try to spin stuff into a positive.

Why? What's wrong with being negative, but hoping you're wrong?

[Hitman21ST]

Why? What's wrong with being negative, but hoping you're wrong?

I just try to see the silver lining. Nothing at all wrong with being negative and hoping you're wrong. I take that approach because my brother-in-law and his family are the "absurdly overly negative" fans that you were talking about, who react negatively no matter what the Skins do.

Two sides of the same coin, IMO.

[ldysknzfn1]

I don't like negativity...I do like realism..I agree w/the previous poster who said that we need more realistic or more grounded posters at times..not negative ones...I have no problem w/folks who see the glass as half full for everything....whatever helps them get thru...I'm more of the wait and see and I hope things work out for the best...this team has conditioned, over the last 20+ yrs, it's fans to lose or be prepared to lose..I still can't relax until the clock says 00:00 most of the time...let's not encourage negative..let's encourage real and grounded and pie in the sky thoughts...why not be happy?..During the game on Sunday..I texted a friend of mine celebrating something we did(he's not a skins fan) and he said "don't get too excited you haven't won yet"..I promptly told him.."I'm celebrating the moment right now..not the game..and I will celebrate when my team does something well regardless of the outcome...I was peturbed at him for suggesting I put a cap on my good feelings..negative...no thanks!

[Oldfan]

OK. State what you feel. Mammoth, groundbreaking stuff.

If my message was as obvious as you portray it, how do you explain the controversy expressed by other posters?

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I have never been wrong.

EDIT: Oh wait. I was wrong that one time. So I was wrong about never being wrong. So now I've been wrong twice.

I wish you had never been wrong. We'd have won every game by 71 points.

[Oldfan]

I don't like negativity...I do like realism..I agree w/the previous poster who said that we need more realistic or more grounded posters at times..not negative ones..

Can you be more specific? What part of my conclusion do you think I should retract? Here it is again:

I write this to encourage more negative voices in this forum. I'm not referring to those who enjoy second guessing every coach's decision that fails or those who trash players beyond reason. I'm encouraging those who try very hard to be realistic and fair to speak up and be heard when you don't agree with the decisions of Redskins management. Don't worry that your opinions won't be popular with the homer crowd. Take solace in the fact that, so far in the Snyder era, the homers have been consistently wrong.

[JMUSkins]

Tone of this thread in pictures:
2005: + 2012: =

Why most people have been optimistic and cheer for the team:

[Morneblade]

Can you be more specific? What part of my conclusion do you think I should retract? Here it is again:

I write this to encourage more negative voices in this forum. I'm not referring to those who enjoy second guessing every coach's decision that fails or those who trash players beyond reason. I'm encouraging those who try very hard to be realistic and fair to speak up and be heard when you don't agree with the decisions of Redskins management. Don't worry that your opinions won't be popular with the homer crowd. Take solace in the fact that, so far in the Snyder era, the homers have been consistently wrong.

That part. Substitute "more objective/realistic voices" and it's much better.

[Oldfan]

Tone of this thread in pictures:..

Very clever. Strawman arguments made in words are boring. To create one in pictures shows some originality even if it's still a straw man.

[NLC1054]

"Being negative and hoping for the best" seems like a contradiction of terms.

Seems more often people are often negative and hope for the worst so they can say "I told you so." Why else bring up a trade from four years ago...

[JMUSkins]

Very clever. Strawman arguments made in words are boring. To create one in pictures shows some originality even if it's still a straw man.

I'm just commenting on the tone of the thread. I haven't really had much interaction with you, if any, but it does come across very self-centered and ego-driven when just taken from an outside perspective.

I welcome objective critiques of the team, but it's also okay to be a blind homer if you really love your team that much (just don't expect them to win).

[Oldfan]

That part. Substitute "more objective/realistic voices" and it's much better.

You can take someone's words out of context and quibble with them but I told you in the paragraph who those negative voices were. When someone disagrees with a management decision they can be said to be negative on the issue of that decision. When they are realistic and fair, there's nothing wrong with that kind of negative position.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

Things you NEVER thought you'd read on ES # 5004 ..... mention of Cork City FC.

*Betting 99% of the readership have zero idea who or what Cork City are/ do. Beautiful part of the World BTW, and an utterly fantastic drinking town if you ever find yourself in Southern Ireland down Munster/ Cork way. But be prepared to check yourself in for a new liver if you intend to go pint for pint with the locals.

Haill.

[santana_4_prez]

What I can't stand is the fan who, after a loss like Carolina says, "Our season is over, we may not win another game" and then jumps all over the people like me who sit back and calculate the playoff odds and try to find a way in, or look for teams we can catch.

You can't tell me after the 2005, 2007 and (gosh I really hope) 2012 that we can't win out in any given season. You got to keep the faith, that is part of being a fan.

We've had some bad losses in those years, but I mean the Atlanta Falcons just lost to Carolina and should have gotten swept by them. It is a week to week league.