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    Default Re: WE: After school shooting in Connecticut, Piers Morgan blasts America’s ‘gun madness’

    I have to agree with those for banning all guns. The reason for this is the second amendment, if read totally, does not state for normal people, it's for militia. The people killing people in schools and elsewhere, to my knowledge is not part of a militia. Here is what the second amendment reads, look it up if you do not believe me:

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    This says to me that the right to bear arms is for the case that the nation needs people within the country that are not in the military to help against invading nations. It was written during the times of the Revolutionary War when the military did not have enough people to defend the 13 original states. As of now, the U.S. military is one of the largest in the world. The need for a militia is no more. If the military needed help to defend it's states and territories it would just begin to draft or take volunteers.

    As for many laws, this is one of the largest that has become obsolete in this country.
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    Default Re: WE: After school shooting in Connecticut, Piers Morgan blasts America’s ‘gun madness’

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenaa View Post
    The wound isn't a lack of gun laws. It is a broken society. We need better parenting, better education and better help for the troubled. This nut broke many laws today. More gun laws wouldn't even have slowed him down. No access to a gun wouldn't have had to stop them. A vehicle on a playground would be equally deady and serve his purpose just as well. This is a tragedy because so many innocent were killed needlessly. 27 lives ended needlessly. The root cause is far far deeper than any issues related to gun access. You can focus on the gun. Enact laws that ban them for that matter. It is something that can give you a sense of doing something. Making a change. But in the end it will be a fruitless endeavor. Societly will be just as broken and heading for a cliff and tragedies like this will continue to happen. I believe the best way to stop these kinds of incidents would be to remove the driving factor. Stop with the non stop instantaneous coverage. This is only feeding the frenzy. There is only one reason for committing this type of mass crime. Attention. It's a shame they're not getting the proper attention before they snap.
    I've seen "in the last 30 years" thrown around as a time-frame for how "crazy" society is. The worst school massacre in this country happened way before that, and it didn't include guns. Imagine if information traveled then as fast as it does now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbol View Post
    I have to agree with those for banning all guns. The reason for this is the second amendment, if read totally, does not state for normal people, it's for militia. The people killing people in schools and elsewhere, to my knowledge is not part of a militia. Here is what the second amendment reads, look it up if you do not believe me:

    A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

    This says to me that the right to bear arms is for the case that the nation needs people within the country that are not in the military to help against invading nations. It was written during the times of the Revolutionary War when the military did not have enough people to defend the 13 original states. As of now, the U.S. military is one of the largest in the world. The need for a militia is no more. If the military needed help to defend it's states and territories it would just begin to draft or take volunteers.

    As for many laws, this is one of the largest that has become obsolete in this country.
    Thankfully, the Supreme Court of the United States, and very recently Illinois, disagrees with you. It's a right of "the people." We are "the people."
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    How many died in car crashes? It's more than the number

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    Default Re: WE: After school shooting in Connecticut, Piers Morgan blasts America’s ‘gun madness’

    Quote Originally Posted by The Evil Genius View Post
    Nonsense. I need to spend time with my 12 year old and teach him right from wrong instead of depending on teachers and day care workers to raise my kids..
    Fixed.

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    There was some interesting commentary by someone on CNN saying that the USA has gone too far with patient "rights" and have made it far too difficult to incarcerate people for mental illness. I don't know a lot about that but she made some interesting points.

    I still think we need to take a hard look at violence portrayed in our society. I would start with all of these video games. Guns have been available since 1790. These school shootings have begun in the modern Information Age. I challenge anyone who thinks that is coincidental.
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    There was some interesting commentary by someone on CNN saying that the USA has gone too far with patient "rights" and have made it far too difficult to incarcerate people for mental illness. I don't know a lot about that but she made some interesting points.

    I still think we need to take a hard look at violence portrayed in our society. I would start with all of these video games. Guns have been available since 1790. These school shootings have begun in the modern Information Age. I challenge anyone who thinks that is coincidental.
    The soldiers gave three cheers as they urged their tired horses north across the uneven hills. Some of the mounts, exhausted after a week of almost continual marching, began to lag behind; others, spurred on by their enthusiastic riders, began to edge past the regiment's commander. "Boys, hold your horses," Custer cautioned; "there are plenty of them down there for us all."

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    Default Re: WE: After school shooting in Connecticut, Piers Morgan blasts America’s ‘gun madness’

    I've always thought that the UFC is disgusting. It reminds me of the Romans right before they fell.

    Should it be outlawed? No. But anyone who likes that **** should look in the mirror and ask them selves why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stadium-Armory View Post
    I've always thought that the UFC is disgusting. It reminds me of the Romans right before they fell.

    Should it be outlawed? No. But anyone who likes that **** should look in the mirror and ask them selves why.
    You could say the same about football.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    I would start with all of these video games. Guns have been available since 1790. These school shootings have begun in the modern Information Age. I challenge anyone who thinks that is coincidental.
    The fact that these perpetrators seem to consistently be young men of this same generation shouldn't be lost on anyone. IMO.

    We've got a real problem in our society. We are ill and we keep swallowing more poison. Wonder how many kids are going to get the new COD under the tree this Christmas
    The soldiers gave three cheers as they urged their tired horses north across the uneven hills. Some of the mounts, exhausted after a week of almost continual marching, began to lag behind; others, spurred on by their enthusiastic riders, began to edge past the regiment's commander. "Boys, hold your horses," Custer cautioned; "there are plenty of them down there for us all."

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    Default Re: WE: After school shooting in Connecticut, Piers Morgan blasts America’s ‘gun madness’

    Quote Originally Posted by FanboyOf91 View Post
    You could say the same about football.
    Um, no. Similar to a much lesser degree maybe, but same, no. Just my opinion though.

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    Default Re: WE: After school shooting in Connecticut, Piers Morgan blasts America’s ‘gun madness’

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenaa View Post
    I believe the best way to stop these kinds of incidents would be to remove the driving factor. Stop with the non stop instantaneous coverage. This is only feeding the frenzy. There is only one reason for committing this type of mass crime. Attention. It's a shame they're not getting the proper attention before they snap.
    Except these have been happening long before our media became realtime - Charles Whitman in 1966 for example.

    I completely agree with you that the entertainment industry in general is part of the issue though - it glorifies the notion of dying in a hail of bullets, and that only gives these fools their dangerous cause to focus on... but I still think the solution is to make it more difficult for everyone to own a firearm. Nowadays it takes far less skill to kill alot of people b/c of the advances in weaponry available to the general population, whereas Whitman needed his military training in order to pull off his massacre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stadium-Armory View Post
    Um, no. Similar to a much lesser degree maybe, but same, no. Just my opinion though.
    Um, yes. You should read up on the concussion lawsuits facing the NFL or poor Mike Webster.


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    Default Re: WE: After school shooting in Connecticut, Piers Morgan blasts America’s ‘gun madness’

    Quote Originally Posted by FanboyOf91 View Post
    Um, yes. You should read up on the concussion lawsuits facing the NFL or poor Mike Webster.
    You watch the NFL because you like to see people get concussions? That's sick man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stadium-Armory View Post
    You watch the NFL because you like to see people get concussions? That's sick man.
    You like to watch the NFL because you like to see people try to knockout other people of a game? That's sick man.


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    Default Re: WE: After school shooting in Connecticut, Piers Morgan blasts America’s ‘gun madness’

    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    There was some interesting commentary by someone on CNN saying that the USA has gone too far with patient "rights" and have made it far too difficult to incarcerate people for mental illness. I don't know a lot about that but she made some interesting points.

    I still think we need to take a hard look at violence portrayed in our society. I would start with all of these video games. Guns have been available since 1790. These school shootings have begun in the modern Information Age. I challenge anyone who thinks that is coincidental.
    Why isn't the same level of gun related violence occuring in Japan or other first world nations then? They watch the same level of violence and play the same games, don't they??
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