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Ok, my 'knee jerk reaction' statement was out of line for this post, and I'm sorry if it came out wrong. I was making a broad statement for a lot of reactions that happen not just this tragedy, no matter if it's national or not. I like to be proactive and not reactive. There are lots of things that can be done, however I like many don't even know where to begin to try and make these changes.
Where is the outcry for the Chinese victims that I posted about that were harmed without a gun?? People will find a way to do what they want.
KingGibbs - I know you've been here a long time and I respect your posts. But you could re-read the rules and leave the vulgar name calling out.
Guns are a part of this country, what is wrong with teaching gun safety???
Considering how often a mass shooting happpens (Or just your everyday single or double-person shooting), and how easily these loons are legally acquiring their weapons, the restrictions are NOT reasonable, and need to be reviewed.
The lack of security that allows these people to legally get their hands on arsenals of firearms, body armor, and massive drums of ammunition is unreasonable.
Reasonable. This is a powerful word. It can't be used unless it is ready to be heeded.
Because this guy wasn't allowed to buy guns when he tried. He took them from his mother. And according to you, he legally acquired it (using the generalizations you made).
I agree, If its true, and the gun store did deny him, the gun laws that are in place worked
Officials: Lanza tried to buy a gun on Tuesday
Published: December 16, 2012 9:40 AM
Last edited by GoSkins561; December-16th-2012 at 09:15 AM.
need a new sig
In fact, in that post,v i clearly indicate that I believe the key is in the registration process.
Weed them out.
None of this is 'according to me'
He got his guns from his mother, who legally acquired them even though he lived with her and would continue to live with her.
he wasn't allowed to buy them, so mom did. Great solution.. a complete failure of why there is a registration check in the first place. (Do you live with a mentally unstable person with a violent history and a condition known for it's lack of empathy and inability to discern right from wrong? Yes? Oh, well.. no gun for you.)
If you ran a liquor store, and a 14 year old walked up with a bottle of Jack would you sell it to him? Of course not.
what if he then handed it to the person behind him in line and said "Buy this and let me have access to it:".
Would you sell it to THAT guy knowing the kid was going to have access to it?
We are unable to discuss this, because all anyone hears is "TAKE" guns.
No. Make it harder for them to GET THEM.
A gun enthusiast mother. Legally bought guns. A unstable son, both mentally and emotionally by the mothers own account and other too. Didn't seek professional help, for what ever reason. Mother really should have ensured that the guns were not accessible to the son IMO. Not the guns fault.
Comparisons to DUI etc.. I would suggest that even though people do drink and drive, the majority of them who do it do not do it intending to kill people.. but a person who armors up, gets a sack full of guns and heads for a mall certainly does.
These comparison are apples and oranges. these shootings aren't accidents caused by poor judgment and irresponsible behavior.
they're caused by a desire to kill a lot of other people.
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She apparently did not.
Last edited by aREDSKIN; December-16th-2012 at 09:37 AM.
A person who gets drunk and wrecks his car and kills someone typically didn't set out with the intent to kill anyone.
But every single one of these shooters do.
Comparisons are pointless.
We have a problem. That is inarguable.
Our question is what to do about it.
You seem to advocate the "cross your fingers and hope it never happens again" position.
No, it shouldn't have been. The back ground is on the individual, who knows who you may come in contact with. Even if it is a family member. Since the person getting the weapons is approved it is reasonable that they are following safe protocals. There is that word 'reasonable' again.
In this case, we don't know if he killed her and took a key to a safe or if they were bought for him or just in the open. We will never know since they are both dead.
That being said, I see what you're getting at and it is a great question, but how far do you take it?
If I have a family member that lives with me with no drivers license, am I not allowed to have a car in fear that they might drive it?
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