I saw that, I'm not able to reply to any posts in this thread directly right now for some reason. I waited for you to fix it.
To add to what I just said in my prior post. Take a county with an annual budget of 315 million dollars. Let's say there are 75 public schools and you hire 3 retired officers per school at 25,000 fixed salary per year. (That's 3 for every high, middle, and elementary school in the county)
75 X 3 = 225
225 x 25,000 = 5,625,000
5.5 million dollars...with a budget of 315 million? Drop in a bucket.
$25,000? That is less than a mall cop with a flashlight here in Austin.
Highly trained professionals are not cheap. Probably $40,000 on the low end. You also probably need to provide health care, benifits, equipment and yearly training.
Also who is running this program? Need a few administrators and managers.
Also, schools budgets are being slashed across the county.
This would be BILLIONS per state at a time when most state budgets are facing historic cuts.
Texas alone cut $300 MILLION from school budgets just last year!
Last edited by Duckus; December-22nd-2012 at 02:00 PM.
Also, it's important to point out that when you employ someone full time, then there are more costs than just their salary. The cost of having an employee is around 2X of salary. So that $5.5M figure is actually more like $11M/year.
The last 60 years?
Your going to pay $75,000 per a school per a year to protect kids from a once in a life time even.
AND simultaneously your going to increase the odds of somebody being shot by accident (3 more guns in every school every day is going to result in some sort of increase in the accident rate) AND the chances that somebody that becomes unhinged that previously either wouldn't have been at the school (one of your 3 cops) or wouldn't have had access to a gun (any of your other school employees that some how might be able to get access to one of your three cops guns) at the school now will.
Are you even sure over time, you are going to decrease the number of kids killed by guns in an elementary school/year?
Last edited by PeterMP; December-22nd-2012 at 03:07 PM.
Penn Jilette had a great take on this when someone questioned him about video games on O&A. He equated the video game "issue" to the "Rock and Roll has got to go!" issue years and years ago.
He went on to say this:
"Yes, the shooter did play Call of Duty. You know why? Because EVERY MOTHER ****ER UNDER THIRTY PLAYS CALL OF DUTY! More people play Call of Duty than drink milk! Every single mother ****er you know who's under the age of 25 has played Call of Duty in the last three days... When you say, 'Mom, everyone is listening to the Beatles,' it's nothing compared to the amount of people that play Call of Duty.
It's like you're watching Shakespeare stuff and Shakespeare has underage teen suicides, do we want our children watching this? **** YOU! It's art!... It's a desperate attempt"
This would be BILLIONS per state per year. Texas cut education by $300 million just last year, where are we finding these billions per year to ADD to the budget??
It just doesn't exist and a mandate would probably bankrupt hundreds of local governments.
And yes, this is the "price we pay" for safety, because we can't bear to live in a world in which you can't buy a semi-automatic assault rifle, with extended magazine clips, without a background check or physiological evaluation. THAT price is just way too high!
Last edited by Duckus; December-22nd-2012 at 04:48 PM.
I just don't think it would accomplish anything, but give politicians "evidence" that they tried to do "something" before the next one. There are 300 million guns in this country. (Honestly, that's a conservative estimate) Let that number sink in. Unless you would endorse DRASTIC search and seizure violations to get them back, probably costing many lives, there is no solution to be found there.
What about movie theaters?
Formerly known as "Liberty"
My big problem is I think this is an unfair burden to put on already underfunded school districts. Now, if there is a way to pay for this without putting the burden on local governments, I would be more interested.
So, what about this:
1) Significant tax all new gun sales.
2) Mandatory yearly registration tax and inspection of all weapons.
If the money above paid for school security, I would be interested.
You combine new taxes + school security with new gun control and extensive background check technology and I think we have a deal.
Last edited by Duckus; December-22nd-2012 at 05:24 PM.
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