WE: After school shooting in Connecticut, Piers Morgan blasts America’s ‘gun madness’

[Bang]

How did he get such weapons, I wonder?

~Bang

[Stadium-Armory]

Maybe we should allow gun ownership provided you participate in state run militias. Once a month maneuvers and training. Psychological and physical testing. Only then can you own a gun.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Maybe we should allow gun ownership provided you participate in state run militias. Once a month maneuvers and training. Psychological and physical testing. Only then can you own a gun.

The Right will point to their interpretation that the 2nd Amendment does not limit the right of gun ownership to those who participate in militias, although they have yet to explain why the Founding Fathers would write an incomplete clause within the 2nd.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State...." what this refers to as far as a Right recognized is completely unclear unless it points to the right to bear arms. They however will disagree and suggest that they wrote a statement that has nothing to do with rest of the sentence it is in....which is absurd.

[twa]

what does SCOTUS say?
durn activist judges

[AsburySkinsFan]

what does SCOTUS say?
durn activist judges

SCOTUS screws up too....case in point Citizens United, so unless you're going to argue forthr inerrancy of the High Court then I'll consider your argument to be fairly pointless.

[skinsmarydu]

SCOTUS screws up too....case in point Citizens United, so unless you're going to argue forthr inerrancy of the High Court then I'll consider your argument to be fairly pointless.

Testify!

[twa]

Pointless would be ignoring their rulings, they have the power to err

[skinsmarydu]

And that shouldn't be allowed to happen. They're appointed to prevent error from hurting peoples' lives, properties, and rights. Like the one you have to kee
nevermind

[stevemcqueen1]

Maybe we should allow gun ownership provided you participate in state run militias. Once a month maneuvers and training. Psychological and physical testing. Only then can you own a gun.

That's not the craziest thing I've ever heard. It's basically a literal interpretation of the second amendment.

[PeterMP]

I see the inability of those opposed to arming teachers or guards to provide evidence it endangers students.
the long history of private schools security as well as the history at public schools since Bill Clinton signed a bill boosting cops in schools seems on the surface evidence the fear of guns in the right hands is unfounded.

You've never heard of a gun going off by accident or somebody being shot by somebody who didn't think their were "real" bullets in the gun:'

These things happen in schools too:

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2009/05/...1011241732079/

Or how about when somebody is intentionally shot that probably didn't need to be shot:

http://maboulette.wordpress.com/2012...ng-pellet-gun/

Cops shoot (3 times) and kill eighth grader at school with a pellet gun.

The idea that accidents and other bad scenarios don't happen shouldn't have to be proven or even evidence found.

To suggest they won't or can't happen is just stupidity.

My sister-in-law was telling a story tonight about when her daughter was in 3rd grade a kid took a gun to school. Wasn't loaded wasn't trying to hurt anybody, but had been in an argument with his friend about what kind of gun his dad had. He took it to school to show his friend that he was wrong and his dad did have the kind of gun he had said he was.

I'm sorry, but if you have somebody armed at the school in the mind set they are there to prevent school shootings the odds of that kid ending up dead go up.

[twa]

I'm sorry, but if you have somebody armed at the school in the mind set they are there to prevent school shootings the odds of that kid ending up dead go up.

guns in general do not just go off(nor is there a need to clean or handle them around students w/o a clear threat),nor should there be any question in a screened,trained teachers mind if it has real bullets

why do you think the odds improve when they call the cops?
your cops example seems to counter that.(and ignore the kids repeated refusal to drop the weapon )

But I agree most armed teachers should be tasked with no more than covering a locked door, exceptions are of course available, but pure defence should be the default role

[AsburySkinsFan]

Pointless would be ignoring their rulings, they have the power to err

"The power to err" what are we just making crp up now? The power to err is for lower courts who are allowed to get it wrong by not making a decision, because there is a higher court above them, and it is about exeeding their jurisdiction...the jurisdiction of SCOTUS is the whole US.

[DCranon21]

Now you have teachers bringing in loaded pistols even though she has a conceal carry permit. She violated those terms bringing it to school and it's unlawful to bring a weapon on school premises.

Fear over the Newtown school shooting prompted a Minnesota teacher to bring a loaded gun to school last week, forcing a school lockdown. The unnamed teacher, a female in her 50s, has been placed on administrative leave from Seward Montessori School in Minneapolis.

"This is the first case like this I've ever heard of," Minneapolis police Sgt. Bill Palmer told KMSP. "In this day in age in this week, handguns in schools are of great concern to everyone."

Acting on a tip from a staff member, the school principal alerted the school resource officer, who confiscated the gun from the teacher, in her 21st year of employment at the school. The loaded .357 Magnum handgun was in the educator's locker in the teacher's lounge, according to the Star Tribune. School officials confirm that no students or staff were harmed or injured.

While the teacher was not arrested, she could face misdemeanor charges for violating conditions of her Minnesota conceal carry permit, which prohibits firearms in schools without written permission from a principal or school official.

Parents were notified of the incident by phone.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2362989.html

I know this has been beaten up so many times and I've said it plenty of times, we can't have teachers carrying loaded weapons with children around. That's not going to do it and that is not a solution.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Now you have teachers bringing in loaded pistols even though she has a conceal carry permit. She violated those terms bringing it to school and it's unlawful to bring a weapon on school premises.

I know this has been beaten up so many times and I've said it plenty of times, we can't have teachers carrying loaded weapons with children around. That's not going to do it and that is not a solution.

So #1 she violates the terms of her concealed carry by bringing a .357 to school, and then she leaves it in her locker in the teacher's lounge? What sense does that make?

[MattFancy]

Religious folk have updated their interpretation of the bible and they take that **** way too serious. No eating shrimp, working on Sundays, etc. We can update our constitution a little.

Thomas Jefferson agrees: “I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.”