WE: After school shooting in Connecticut, Piers Morgan blasts America’s ‘gun madness’

[AsburySkinsFan]

Thomas Jefferson agrees: “I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.”

Yeah, but he was a Librawl!
BTW, my favorite part of our new found adoration of all things Founing Fathers related is the absolute cherry picking of the things they said and the blatant ignoring of the things that those patriotic saints said that completely crush our ideas about them.

[twa]

"The power to err" what are we just making crp up now? .

I know you don't think them infallible do you?
I'm kinda aware of their jurisdiction .

[AsburySkinsFan]

I know you don't think them infallible do you?

The power to err is about passing a case to a higher court in order to avoid a jurisdictional breech....this doesn't have to do with their infallibility.

I'm kinda aware of their jurisdiction .

So what higher court is there for SCOTUS to pass a ruling up to in order for the "power to err" to be applicable?

[twa]

The power to err is about passing a case to a higher court in order to avoid a jurisdictional breech....this doesn't have to do with their infallibility.

Where did you come up with that strict definition?
their power to err is moderated by the other branches, but most certainly exists

[Thiebear]

Thomas Jefferson agrees: “I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and Constitutions. But laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.”

Yeah, but he was a Librawl!
BTW, my favorite part of our new found adoration of all things Foudning Fathers related is the absolute cherry picking of the things they said and the blatant ignoring of the things that those patriotic saints said that completely crush our ideas about them.

I believe the founding documents/writers have been quoted since the early 1800's and not that "new found".
Do i have to list every one of your sayings in this thread or the entire forum i disagree with since you joined Jan 2006 or can i use the ones i find to be enlightening and pertinent to conversation at hand.

[AsburySkinsFan]

I believe the founding documents/writers have been quoted since the early 1800's and not that "new found".
Do i have to list every one of your sayings in this thread or the entire forum i disagree with since you joined Jan 2006 or can i use the ones i find to be enlightening and pertinent to conversation at hand.

It is helpful to do that if you think you found something I said that proves your point while ignoring the majority of statements that disagree with that assertion. If you find such a quote it is more likely that it is the either misunderstood or not clearly stated. We call citing such quotes "proof-texting" because they ignore everythin else that was said by the person and it is done to give a false impression of the speaker.

[China]

Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses

A newspaper in New York has received a wave of criticism from its readers after publishing the names and addresses of all of the individuals with handgun or pistol permits in its coverage area.

Hundreds of residents in New York’s Westchester and Rockland counties were surprised to find their names and addresses listed on a map posted by The Journal News on Sunday. Users can click any dot on the map to see which of their neighbors has a permit for a gun.

The map sparked more than 500 comments from readers within a day of its appearance on the website, many of them voicing outrage at the paper’s decision to make the information public.
“This is CRAZY!! why in the world would you post every licensed gun owner information?? What do you hope to accomplish by doing this. This is the type of thing you do for sex offenders not law abiding gun owners. What next? should i hang a flag outside my house that says I own a gun? I am canceling my subscription with your paper today!!!” said commenter Curtis Maenza.

Click on the link for the full article

[alexey]

I think people tend to confuse the human wisdom of Founding Fathers, the one based on philosophy, history, knowledge, information, etc., with revealed wisdom from Gods.

[AsburySkinsFan]

Where did you come up with that strict definition?
their power to err is moderated by the other branches, but most certainly exists

http://books.google.com/books?id=vgQ...err%22&f=false

BTW, when was the last time SCOTUS was over-ruled? Congress can change the law to adjust it to meet the ruling of SCOTUS but they cannot overrule SCOTUS without a Constitutional amendment and I'm trying o figure out when the last time SCOTUS was overruled via Constitutional amendment. Given the current state of affairs in our country I'd argue that the Separation of Powers that was intended is all but dead since SCOTUS has the defacto final authority.

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Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses

Great idea, piss off MORE people with guns.

[twa]

since SCOTUS has the defacto final authority.[COLOR="Gold"]



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so Citizen United was not done in error and you accept the individual right to arms?

people are going nuts
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...ristmas/60306/

[alexey]

so Citizen United was not done in error and you accept the individual right to arms?

people are going nuts
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...ristmas/60306/

All these people getting weapons for Christmas... Jesus must be turning in his grave

[nyskinsfan56]

Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses

A newspaper in New York has received a wave of criticism from its readers after publishing the names and addresses of all of the individuals with handgun or pistol permits in its coverage area.

Hundreds of residents in New York’s Westchester and Rockland counties were surprised to find their names and addresses listed on a map posted by The Journal News on Sunday. Users can click any dot on the map to see which of their neighbors has a permit for a gun.

The map sparked more than 500 comments from readers within a day of its appearance on the website, many of them voicing outrage at the paper’s decision to make the information public.
“This is CRAZY!! why in the world would you post every licensed gun owner information?? What do you hope to accomplish by doing this. This is the type of thing you do for sex offenders not law abiding gun owners. What next? should i hang a flag outside my house that says I own a gun? I am canceling my subscription with your paper today!!!” said commenter Curtis Maenza.

Click on the link for the full article

I happen to know a few pissed off people on that list. One being a ~92yr old lady who I used to live across the street from.

[AsburySkinsFan]

so Citizen United was not done in error and you accept the individual right to arms?

people are going nuts
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...ristmas/60306/

Final authority is a different issue than whether the court was wrong, you'd have rightness and legal authority to be the same thing.

[Bang]

Newspaper Publishes Gun Owners’ Names and Addresses

Holy crap what on EARTH would make them think this helps anything?
I mean other than the massive unconscionable UNAMERICAN invasion of privacy that it is, what is the end game? what do they hope to accomplish with this? What purpose was in mind? Did they think this through at all?
(If ONE person on their list is harassed, they ought to be charged with as many incitement crimes as the book holds.)

I swear, the idiocy that is overwhelming this country is UNBELIEVABLE.
Wave upojn wave of dumb, stupid ignorance just piling up everywhere. It's like our sewer is backed up.
What the **** happened to SENSE? Maturity? even a little wisdom?
Why don't we seem to have it any more?


~Bang

[Koolblue13]