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    Default Re: NFL: RG3's availability will be decided by Redskins doctor

    Quote Originally Posted by Skinz4Life12 View Post
    Is the presser at 3 again? I remember it was at like 1:30 last week
    I'm assuming so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinklein View Post
    I'm assuming so.
    nah he's doing a presser right now per the other thread apparently


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    Quote Originally Posted by MLSKINS View Post
    This. I was about to say the same thing in the Is Orakpo Expendable thread. Screw that. Keep all the depth and trade them when we have to. Screw the picks...
    I agree that depth is important, but not at the expense of starters. If the skins can get a high 2nd round pick and a future pick, then getting the RT/CB/S help we need might be more important. Much depends on what is offered and what we need. Cousins shouldn't go just because we get an offer.

    If we could get a trade like Matt Schaub to the Texans would you do it? Maybe two 2nds and a 4th (A bump from 32 to __ spot that needs the QB is too much ).

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2807051

    I think it's in our best interest to wait another year, drop Grossman, get another development pick 4-6 round range and see what happens, so I'm mostly playing devils advocate. If Shanny feels comfortable with a new guy next year, I'd be fine with him getting some solid value from KC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koolblue13 View Post
    I think we are just suppose to cut Hall, not trade him. I'm not sure. I think him being on the roster insults the fans.
    If Hall is on the roster next year for the 8.3 million in his contract I will be upset. He has about a 2 year/17mill deal with no guarantees. I think most can agree that 8% of our remaining cap money can't go to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moondog View Post
    Cousins is worth more than a 2nd rounder to us for a couple of reasons and it would be a very big mistake to give him up this offseason for anything short of a 1st rounder (which we will not get):
    Moondog,

    I agree with you. Cousins is proving to be a very capable backup. Every team needs a good or great backup QB if it wants to keep winning when the starter is out. Cousins is directly responsible for two critical wins. I would only part with him if the offer is simply too good to refuse, such as two very high draft picks. Until RG3 proves he can avoid big hits on a consistent basis, the Redskins should keep Cousins at least until the end of next year.

    As a Skins fan, I would be hesitant to give up even a good backup QB after having such poor QB play for so many years. Not having a quality QB has wasted some very good Redskins defenses over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audible_Red40 View Post
    I had a spare moment here at work, I pulled out the calculator and it shows 2% difference. Now on the football scale I totally agree with you here.
    yea i mean im pretty sure if hes just 98%, he could still play. anything less than 90, in my opinion and he should sit out.

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    RG3 still sounds really irritated that he was sat last week. If he was hindered, I think he is man enough to get over it by now. Sorry but I trust RG3, not 2 doctors on Mike's payroll you cant name.

    He was back at full practice only 8 days after the injury. Fast healer, or was he simply held back in a knee jerk reaction to seeing the nasty looking leg whip on Ngatas back. I am thinking it was the latter, and thus the doctor was needed to make the call so there was no heat on Mike in what I see would have been a scrutinized move had we lost the game.
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    As a Skins fan, I would be hesitant to give up even a good backup QB after having such poor QB play for so many years. Not having a quality QB has wasted some very good Redskins defenses over the years.
    I think the x-factor to this decision is that ability to get similar production from the next guy on the depth chart. On one hand, I would assume that what Cousins did last week was far and away a better outing than Grossman could have. However, he did it with better talent around him than he had last year (Garcon, Morgan, Morris, etc.). So, if we believed that Grossman could do something similar to what Cousins did, then I'd be comfortable trading Cousins for value. If not, I think it's wise to hold onto him until you have that commodity behind him.

    A couple other notes:

    1) I believe that we'd need to trade Cousins sometime before the trade deadline of 2014. After that, he'd be on the last year of his rookie contract and the value we'd get back might drop.
    2) An ideal long-term backup to RG3 is slightly older QB who had his shot to start and is content to be a mentor/2-game-per-year fill in for the next several years. In some ways, Rex is the perfect backup if he can perform at a high level.
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    Default Re: NFL: RG3's availability will be decided by Redskins doctor

    Albert Breer says that the team expects RGIII to start Sunday

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ngton-redskins
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 View Post
    Albert Breer says that the team expects RGIII to start Sunday
    There is a different view here
    http://sports.yahoo.com/video/long-r...024018783.html

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    Default Re: NFL: RG3's availability will be decided by Redskins doctor

    Quote Originally Posted by BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 View Post
    Albert Breer says that the team expects RGIII to start Sunday

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...ngton-redskins
    that's awesome news

    ---------- Post added December-19th-2012 at 05:43 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Moseley View Post
    i believe that's from yesterday before RG3 had a full practice and said his piece today


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    Quote Originally Posted by cakmoney61 View Post
    Moondog,

    I agree with you. Cousins is proving to be a very capable backup. Every team needs a good or great backup QB if it wants to keep winning when the starter is out. Cousins is directly responsible for two critical wins. I would only part with him if the offer is simply too good to refuse, such as two very high draft picks. Until RG3 proves he can avoid big hits on a consistent basis, the Redskins should keep Cousins at least until the end of next year.

    As a Skins fan, I would be hesitant to give up even a good backup QB after having such poor QB play for so many years. Not having a quality QB has wasted some very good Redskins defenses over the years.
    Agreed. Obviously there are always exceptions. If a team came to us with an offer of two 2nd rounders (both of them THIS for this upcoming draft - and I'm not sure any team that needs a QB has two 2nds) or a 1st round pick, it would have to be strongly considered, especially with a player like Tyrann Mathieu entering the draft at a position of need and he'll probably be had at a very high value place in the draft.

    That being said, I very seriously doubt we will be offered two 2nds or a 1st so it's kind of a mull point. I don't think we will be offered anything that is even close to the value he represents to this team and I'm very certain we will need him at some point next year.

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    [QUOTEThat being said, I very seriously doubt we will be offered two 2nds or a 1st so it's kind of a mull point. I don't think we will be offered anything that is even close to the value he represents to this team and I'm very certain we will need him at some point next year.[/QUOTE]

    I agree. Until Cousins has a larger sample size, I wouldn't expect a team to be willing to give up a high draft pick(s) for him which is fine with me.

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    According to cbssports.com Josh Katzowitz Barring a setback, RG3 to start Sunday

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    Default Re: NFL: RG3's availability will be decided by Redskins doctor

    It will probably be a game time decision to throw the eagles off on who to prepare for more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkLink View Post
    It will probably be a game time decision to throw the eagles off on who to prepare for more.
    I doubt it this week. I wouldn't be surprised if Shanny declares him as starter by tomorrow if the Doctors clear him today


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