Redskins PR: STATEMENT BY AN NFL SPOKESPERSON (Jordan Black Suspended)

[Bang]

Major Major is at fault.

~Bang

[brandymac27]

Jordan Black unhappy with NFL “attack-dog attorney” — and PFT

“It is a prescription,” Black said. “I gave the NFL the prescriptions that I received for it. They’ve known about the diagnosis. They’ve had their own doctors confirm the diagnosis, multiple times. I’ve seen more doctors than you can even imagine about this very case that we are talking about, but in the appeals process, it just doesn’t matter. It is a system that, instead of having someone that can take a look at all the information and make a logical decision based on the information that’s there, they instead have a attack-dog attorney who tries to paint some — mischaracterize a person and put labels on them like a doper or, you know, whatever in order to find the player guilty. I mean, it was clearly — I had no chance from the beginning.”

Black then took issue with my post on Monday, which I headlined, “After gaining 50 pounds this year, Jordan Black busted for PEDs.” Black says he did not gain anywhere near that much weight.

“There’s a guy from Pro Football Talk, his name is Michael David Smith, and he wrote an article, I think either today or yesterday, talking about how I gained 50 pounds in the preseason, and he was trying to paint a picture that I was clearly using steroids,” Black said. “Well, I took a picture of the scale and my weight, and the scale said 275.2 pounds. So this is why I’m so upset, is people like this, who just make up stories and put it in the news like it’s true. He says I’ve gained 50 pounds. I’ve gained five pounds.”

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[2cents]

I posted this on another board, but it sums up my feelings.

1. Cedric Griffin plays a good game against the Giants and is suspended by the league after that game.
2. With playoff seeding on the line, Jordan Black comes in for an injured player and then is suspended by the league.
3. Tenard Jackson has his case reviewed forever and the week before the season starts after he is named the starter, he is suspended for the year.
4. Trent Williams and Fred Davis are suspended for smoking dope during the NFL lockout when the personal conduct policy does not apply because there is no labor agreemant. They are the ONLY TWO players suspended for this. Do you really believe that they were the only two players to smoke during the lockout?
5. The day before free agency, the NFL announces that the Redskins are losing 36 million in cap money due to "violating the spirit of the salary cap". Now, when we moved cap money, there was no salary cap and therefore, we could do whatever we wanted. The NFL owners admit to colluding to keep salaries down in a labor dispute, which is in violation of Federal Labor Law.
6. NFL officials, both real and replacement, continue to make quesionable and out right wrong calls against the Redskins and Redskins only. I have watched a lot of football in my life. I have never and I mean NEVER seen a play where the ref blows a whistle, defenders stop and the running back is allowed to run into the end zone and the play is ruled a TD. Not to mention calls where a QB(Brady) is hit in the chest, and we are called for a blow to the head. Now RGIII has been injured twice this year after sliding, (Falcons and Ravens) and no call is made.

People don't want to say it is a conspiracy, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

[srtman04]

I posted this on another board, but it sums up my feelings.

1. Cedric Griffin plays a good game against the Giants and is suspended by the league after that game.
2. With playoff seeding on the line, Jordan Black comes in for an injured player and then is suspended by the league.
3. Tenard Jackson has his case reviewed forever and the week before the season starts after he is named the starter, he is suspended for the year.
4. Trent Williams and Fred Davis are suspended for smoking dope during the NFL lockout when the personal conduct policy does not apply because there is no labor agreemant. They are the ONLY TWO players suspended for this. Do you really believe that they were the only two players to smoke during the lockout?
5. The day before free agency, the NFL announces that the Redskins are losing 36 million in cap money due to "violating the spirit of the salary cap". Now, when we moved cap money, there was no salary cap and therefore, we could do whatever we wanted. The NFL owners admit to colluding to keep salaries down in a labor dispute, which is in violation of Federal Labor Law.
6. NFL officials, both real and replacement, continue to make quesionable and out right wrong calls against the Redskins and Redskins only. I have watched a lot of football in my life. I have never and I mean NEVER seen a play where the ref blows a whistle, defenders stop and the running back is allowed to run into the end zone and the play is ruled a TD. Not to mention calls where a QB(Brady) is hit in the chest, and we are called for a blow to the head. Now RGIII has been injured twice this year after sliding, (Falcons and Ravens) and no call is made.

People don't want to say it is a conspiracy, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

The evidence is indisputable. This is a duck we are talkng about, plain as day. I wish more people could see this for what it is.

[Rhodus333]

marijuana is not a performance enhancing drug

It is if your trying to gain wait quickly lol.

More cheetos stat!!!

[TD Riggo]

From sources: The NFL Competition Committee is pleased to report that the entire Washington Redskins team has been suspended for (INSERTED BY NFL CENSORS) knowing people who have a third cousin who knows a guy who plays in the NFL who use(s) (/INSERTED BY NFL CENSORS) performance enhancing drugs. Apparently, the entire roster has been consuming quantities of the chemical compound H20, known as 'water' in many popular circles. Sources cannot confirm which variety of 'water' was being used and whether it came from a tap, was modified with a performance enhancing filtering device, or was supplied by a local retailer in plastic bottles. John Mara, esteemed chair of the committee had the following comments:

"I think it is a lamentable situation in Washington. It's clear that the organization was trying to gain a competitive advantage through consuming water. Clearly, based on the copious amounts of inconclusive data and tests, there is something different about the water in Washington. Personally, I think they're lucky they don't lose draft picks."

Redskins players are expected to appeal the suspensions, but it does not appear there will be much chance of success. NFL officials found clearly condemning evidence such as water bottles, paper towels, and disposable cups. Mara followed up his earlier comments in a press conference:

"The NFL has rules in place for a reason. Sometimes, teams think that the rules don't apply to them. It's unfortunate that those teams don't realize that they are not the New York Giants or New England Patriots and actually have to follow the rules. I will also be looking into whether this transgression will require Robert Griffin III to be permanently traded to the Giants for a 7th round pick in the 2042 NFL Draft."

FIFY

Signed,

John "The Turd" Mara

---------- Post added December-18th-2012 at 07:12 PM ----------

Allowed to do something, then punished retroactively = salary cap penalty and J.Black = Mara
How about a Mara icon ?

There already is one:

[rskin72]

So....another case of he said, he said. While I don't not believe Jordan......i just wonder what else can be at play here for the NFL to issue such a seemingly nonsensical ruling. If Black has a problem for which NFL doctors have concurred with the diagnosis......and for which he has a history of being treated for......well, just dont see how this fits with the punishment metted out.

Of course, not as if NFL punishments have all stood up to independent analysis.....see the aints player punishments as an example.

If Black does have irrefutable proof of his innocence then I would think he would bring it forward in the media and try to put pressure on the NFL that way. But I dont understand why that proof would not have been provided to NFLPA attorneys previously.

Just wonder what more there is to this story....what was this paperwork mixup? What, if anything, did the team know, and if this is such a travesty, why isn't the team talking with the league and/or verbally supporting black?

Again, not saying Black is guilty, just have a lot of unanswered questions...

[Burgold]

If what Black is saying is true, he ought to sue the NFL for defamation of character. I think he could win, especially if he has proof of previous doctor visits and acknowledgement of this medication's approval in past seasons.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

I posted this on another board, but it sums up my feelings.

1. Cedric Griffin plays a good game against the Giants and is suspended by the league after that game.
2. With playoff seeding on the line, Jordan Black comes in for an injured player and then is suspended by the league.
3. Tenard Jackson has his case reviewed forever and the week before the season starts after he is named the starter, he is suspended for the year.
4. Trent Williams and Fred Davis are suspended for smoking dope during the NFL lockout when the personal conduct policy does not apply because there is no labor agreemant. They are the ONLY TWO players suspended for this. Do you really believe that they were the only two players to smoke during the lockout?
5. The day before free agency, the NFL announces that the Redskins are losing 36 million in cap money due to "violating the spirit of the salary cap". Now, when we moved cap money, there was no salary cap and therefore, we could do whatever we wanted. The NFL owners admit to colluding to keep salaries down in a labor dispute, which is in violation of Federal Labor Law.
6. NFL officials, both real and replacement, continue to make quesionable and out right wrong calls against the Redskins and Redskins only. I have watched a lot of football in my life. I have never and I mean NEVER seen a play where the ref blows a whistle, defenders stop and the running back is allowed to run into the end zone and the play is ruled a TD. Not to mention calls where a QB(Brady) is hit in the chest, and we are called for a blow to the head. Now RGIII has been injured twice this year after sliding, (Falcons and Ravens) and no call is made.

People don't want to say it is a conspiracy, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

so by suspending second stringers, they are sabotaging us??

Why not just suspend RGIII? Wouldn't it have made sense to just suspend Kyle for the whole year after the Bengals game incident??

---------- Post added December-18th-2012 at 07:53 PM ----------

Oh and RGIII has gotten plenty of questionable roughing calls for us...the games vs TB and MIN stick out

Oh and the Packers (one of the league's most historic teams) were screwed by one of the worst calls in history. Yeah, the NFL is out to get the Skins and the Skins only.

There is a post like this on every team's message board



Oh and you brought up the Davis/Williams suspensions...well since everyone was on board with tanking for RGIII, didn't that help more than hurt???

---------- Post added December-18th-2012 at 08:01 PM ----------

This whole "blame Mara!" thing is ridiculous. Will Hill and Tyler Sash of the Giants were both suspended this year for Adderall. Does everyone think Mara was behind that too just to set us up for later in the season? Sacrificed his own players on the off chance we could take down our backup OT?

There is no "timing" of this. The failed drug test would have been weeks or months ago if the appeals process has ended. Did Mara know that Polumbus would be getting a concussion this past week?

Some people here need to seriously use some common sense before jumping to conclusions. Are the Adderall/PED rules a bit ridiculous? Yes, they are. Was this a conspiracy to sabotage our team? No, it was not.

Thank you...thank you so so much LAX. You honestly don't know how happy that post just made me.

The stupidity was beginning to make my head hurt

[2cents]

I'm not stupid. What's your PhD in? Mine is in Human Resources.

[BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93]

I'm not stupid. What's your PhD in? Mine is in Human Resources.

Obviously you are not. Your view on the matter at hand is not an intelligent IMO.

Congrats on your PhD.

I'm a sophomore in college and would love to have one some day as well

[Laxpunk2006]

I posted this on another board, but it sums up my feelings.

1. Cedric Griffin plays a good game against the Giants and is suspended by the league after that game.

Griffin had failed a drug test and appeal process previous to the Giants game. His performance had zero bearing on the process and at that point 10 other NFL players had been suspended for "Adderall" as well.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...e-of-adderall/

2. With playoff seeding on the line, Jordan Black comes in for an injured player and then is suspended by the league.

Again, the player's drug test and appeal process occurred previous to the Cleveland game. Do you believe the NFL predicted Polumbus' injury and decided to sabotage our team through preemptively suspending an extremely mediocre backup player?

3. Tenard Jackson has his case reviewed forever and the week before the season starts after he is named the starter, he is suspended for the year.

Maybe this is true, I'm not familiar enough with his previous suspensions or when his offense occurred.

4. Trent Williams and Fred Davis are suspended for smoking dope during the NFL lockout when the personal conduct policy does not apply because there is no labor agreemant. They are the ONLY TWO players suspended for this. Do you really believe that they were the only two players to smoke during the lockout?

Williams and Davis may have been the only players suspended for smoking pot but they were not the only players suspended for personal conduct policy transgressions during the lockout.

Cedric Benson was suspended
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...against-nflpa/

5. The day before free agency, the NFL announces that the Redskins are losing 36 million in cap money due to "violating the spirit of the salary cap". Now, when we moved cap money, there was no salary cap and therefore, we could do whatever we wanted. The NFL owners admit to colluding to keep salaries down in a labor dispute, which is in violation of Federal Labor Law.

The salary cap stuff is ridiculous and I'm with you on that but the Cowboys and Raiders were also penalized.

6. NFL officials, both real and replacement, continue to make quesionable and out right wrong calls against the Redskins and Redskins only. I have watched a lot of football in my life. I have never and I mean NEVER seen a play where the ref blows a whistle, defenders stop and the running back is allowed to run into the end zone and the play is ruled a TD. Not to mention calls where a QB(Brady) is hit in the chest, and we are called for a blow to the head. Now RGIII has been injured twice this year after sliding, (Falcons and Ravens) and no call is made.

The Redskins are the only team that had wrong calls against them? Do you seriously not remember Russell Wilson's "touchdown" against Green Bay?

People don't want to say it is a conspiracy, but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

I think you should reconsider.

I'm not stupid. What's your PhD in? Mine is in Human Resources.

How is this relevant?

[Arsenic]

If what Black is saying is true, he ought to sue the NFL for defamation of character.

or more:


"The Americans with Disabilities Act, or ADA, was established by Congress in 1990. The purpose of the law is to end discrimination in the workplace and to provide equal employment opportunities for people with disabilities. "

"The Americans with Disabilities Act includes ADHD as a disability"

"An employer is required to provide a reasonable accommodation to a qualified applicant or employee with a disability unless the employer can show that the accommodation would be an undue hardship, such as being too expensive or creating other problems within the workplace."

"Reasonable accommodations for an employee who has ADHD could include:

• job restructuring
• part-time or modified work schedules
• reassignment to a vacant position
• adjusting or modifying examinations, training materials, or policies "

(source: http://www.additudemag.com/web/article/674.html)

[brandymac27]

I don't know if Mara is to blame or not. What I do know is that it's extremely crappy of the NFL to suspend a player that has a prescription for a diagnosed medical/mental health condition (especially if that player has followed protocol and done everything by the book). If Jordan has been taking this medication for years, which he claims, and has been to league and team doctors and this information was all documented, then he should sue the crap out of the NFL.

Just b/c ADHD med's are on the list of the NFL's PEDs doesn't mean that they can suspend a player who HAS to take that medication for his diagnosed condition. That's like telling a diabetic football player they can't take insulin.

And what about players who have a neurological disease like Lupus or MS? They have to take steroids as part of their treatment. What would the NFL do then?

[AngloSackSon]

I agree with Jordan that there should be someone in the league office, who during the appeals process, is required to evaluate each case on a more human or softer legal level.
Still, it seems he's wholly at fault for failing to file all the necessary paperwork. He should have been more vigilant, especially with his 10 years experience.

I can certainly understand his media railing in attempt to extinguish the doper label, though. Again, it would be proper of the league to include some explanation of this in their suspension announcement.

---------- Post added December-19th-2012 at 08:10 AM ----------

I agree with Jordan that there should be someone in the league office, who during the appeals process, is required to evaluate each case on a more human or softer legal level.
Still, it seems he's wholly at fault for failing to file all the necessary paperwork. He should have been more vigilant, especially with his 10 years experience.

I can certainly understand his media railing in attempt to extinguish the doper label, though. Again, it would be proper of the league to include some explanation of this in their suspension announcement.