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    Great article and the following quote is exactly why this team has so much chemistry and fight......they never quit.
    If Shanahan has a signature, it’s his faith in the young, seemingly undersized marginal, try-hard player, guys who have a hint of desperation, who play, as he puts it, “like every game is a playoff game.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    Sally wrote: "If you think about it, much of what Shanahan has done with the Redskins is all about risk management."

    Sally, risk management is not about the willingness to take high risks which you were writing about.

    I'd give Mike an A coaching an offense, but he seems to be a gut level decision maker where risks are concerned. That doesn't impress me.
    If you manage risks properly, you can take on a high level of risk and have a high level of confidence in success. Part of this is having a proper risk-mitigation strategy that accounts for impact and likelihood of the risk becoming an issue. This is a fundamental of Program/Project Management... ask anyone with a PMP.

    What will it take to impress you? Why can't you give Shanny credit for making tough calls? It is already paying off... right?

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    If you manage risks properly, you can take on a high level of risk and have a high level of confidence in success. Part of this is having a proper risk-mitigation strategy that accounts for impact and likelihood of the risk becoming an issue. This is a fundamental of Program/Project Management... ask anyone with a PMP.

    What will it take to impress you? Why can't you give Shanny credit for making tough calls? It is already paying off... right?
    A perfect example of his risk mitigation strategy is drafting Cousins in case RG3 bombed. This.. in addition to the youth on this team are all part of the plan.
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    Despite any criticism that Shanny receives or will receive moving forward, justified or not, there is one fact that just doesn't resonate with some of our fans or the media...

    Mike Shanahan is a HOF coach. Let that sink in for a minute. Not a good coach, but one that will be inducted into the HOF. And that's not up for debate. It's a fact. And before some point out Gibbs 2.0, other HOF coaches second coaching gigs, etc., I am not trying to start an argument or a debate.

    I am simply pointing out that the man that leads our team will be in Canton.

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    I like the end with the reference to Groundhog Day. That's what it has felt like around here since 1992 an through week 9 of this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SWFLSkins View Post
    I still say his "evaluating to see who is here next year and beyond" has been vastly underrated.
    I said Shanny was using a little reverse psychology or maybe he was pissed when he said it - I personally had no problem with it. When you are told if you are good we will keep you for next year sends a message to the employee. And look they started working a little harder since then.

    Media and the like made a big deal out of it. It was just a manager putting his employees on notice. And so far the results are looking pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    Sally wrote: "If you think about it, much of what Shanahan has done with the Redskins is all about risk management."

    Sally, risk management is not about the willingness to take high risks which you were writing about.

    I'd give Mike an A coaching an offense, but he seems to be a gut level decision maker where risks are concerned. That doesn't impress me.
    While I agree that Sally is using the idea of Risk Management incorrectly, what has he shown you in his time with the Redskins that makes you believe he is a "gut level decision maker" where risks are concerned?

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    you know the Redskins are doing something right when Sally Jenkins writes an article like this


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post

    I'd give Mike an A coaching an offense, but he seems to be a gut level decision maker where risks are concerned. That doesn't impress me.
    Guess a lot of people make decision based on what their guts tells them. Rex Ryan said his gut told him to go with the 3rd string QB as the starting QB over Teabow. I think the older a person gets more of one's gut gets involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD0506 View Post
    Maybe if we make the SB the WP et.al. be forced to write something grudgingly complimentary about Dan Snyder too
    Doubtful. If this happens this year (more likely next), my guess is tey write about the fact tha he took a step back from player personnel and ceded control to Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan. hey will even make that sound sarcastic, e.g. Well it only took him 13 years to realize he didn't own an $810 million fantasy team...
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    Remeber everybody bashing him for not getting Sanchez for QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rk3025 View Post
    Remeber everybody bashing him for not getting Sanchez for QB.
    i was one of the few who wanted nothing to do with Dirty


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldfan View Post
    Sally wrote: "If you think about it, much of what Shanahan has done with the Redskins is all about risk management."

    Sally, risk management is not about the willingness to take high risks which you were writing about.

    I'd give Mike an A coaching an offense, but he seems to be a gut level decision maker where risks are concerned. That doesn't impress me.
    I disagree. Risk management is the consideration and response to known and potential risks. Risk profile determines your response. Risk-accepting entities often take risks that seem high knowing that the payoff is likely much greater than the impact of a bad outcome. This relates to the concept of positive risk, where you not only assess the risks associated with failure, but those associated with success (and the knock-on effect of those).

    I work in a risk-accepting (actually you might say risk-seeking) environment where we routinely analyze and act on risk. Sometimes it is done using formal risk assessment tools, other times it is built into the process. A game plan has an inherent amount of risk management built into it, regardless of whether it is formalized or not. Given that the Washington Redskins likely have much better resources available than the 70-person start-up that employs me, I'm willing to bet that they have some well-established risk management processes in place. Certainly they have those around the draft.

    Though it's speculation, I'm willing to bet that Shanny's observations of Bill Belichick taught him a thing or two about risk management. I also know they continue to talk and occasionally consult with each other for opinions (which is part of risk management).

    Anyway, I thought it was a good read, though the sentence you quoted is not grammatically correct. For shame Sally!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rk3025 View Post
    Remeber everybody bashing him for not getting Sanchez for QB.
    Sanchez was way before Shanahan was here. That was all Vinny and Snyder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rk3025 View Post
    Remeber everybody bashing him for not getting Sanchez for QB.
    Not to mention passing on Gabbert! Shanny can almost be praised for some of the selections he DID NOT make! Cutting Devin Thomas and Kelly were good moves.

    His confidence in the O-line was validated this year; big time! (Hopefully the next man up can keep it going) I think taking Trent Williams over Okung was the right move. TW missed games for drugs, Okung missed a lot due to injury.

    Edit: I had forgot that Sanchez had been in the league that long. God he's just awful! Any GM in the future who takes a USC QB in the first round for a long time needs to have his head examined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasroane View Post
    Not to mention passing on Gabbert! Shanny can almost be praised for some of the selections he DID NOT make! Cutting Devin Thomas and Kelly were good moves.

    His confidence in the O-line was validated this year; big time! (Hopefully the next man up can keep it going) I think taking Trent Williams over Okung was the right move. TW missed games for drugs, Okung missed a lot due to injury.

    Edit: I had forgot that Sanchez had been in the league that long. God he's just awful! Any GM in the future who takes a USC QB in the first round for a long time needs to have his head examined.
    yeah, hey what ever happened to malcolm kelly? where is he now?

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