Poll: NRA is largely a

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

The press conference was pretty shocking. I give it 20 years before that organization is about as relevant and just as antiquated as the Daughters of the Revolution.

puhleeeze

that organization is going nowhere.

[Jumbo]

Diseased scrotum?

[alexey]

Very generous and uniquely qualified organization? This is from the press conference today:

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And the National Rifle Association, as America’s preeminent trainer of law enforcement and security personnel for the past 50 years -- we have 11,000 police training instructors in the NRA -- is ready, willing and uniquely qualified to help.

Our training programs are the most advanced in the world. That expertise must be brought to bear to protect our schools and our children now.

We did it through (ph) our nation’s defense industries and military installations during World War II. We did it for very young kids with our Eddie Eagle child safety program that is throughout the country in schools right now, and we’ll do it again today.

LAPIERRE: The NRA is gonna bring all its knowledge, all its dedication and all its resources to develop a model national schools shield emergency response program for every single school in America that wants it. From armed security to building design and access control, to information technology, to student and teacher training, this multifaceted program will be developed by the very best experts in the field. Former Congressman Asa Hutchinson will lead the effort as national director of the National Model School Shield Program, with a budget provided by the NRA of whatever scope the task requires. His experience as United States attorney, director of the Drug Enforcement Agency, and undersecretary of the Department of Homeland Security will give him the knowledge and expertise to hire the most knowledgeable and credentialed experts that are available in the United States of America to get this program up and running from the first day forward.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...6_story_4.html

[Jumbo]

Alexy, that seems shrewd, potentially useful (given the sadness such even needs to be considered), generous indeed, and even "feels" sincere. I think I'm impressed.

[PleaseBlitz]

Alexy, that seems shrewd, potentially useful (given the sadness such even needs to be considered), generous indeed, and even "feels" sincere. I think I'm impressed.

Eh, he needed a game changer considering the Will of the American People just turned dramatically against his organization. This was not that. The speech was a lot of hide the ball. I honestly don't even know why his speech was national news. His organization is about 1% of the US population, he shouldn't have a seat at the table.

[skinsmarydu]

And the entertainment was provided by CodePink.

[Burgold]

Alexy, that seems shrewd, potentially useful (given the sadness such even needs to be considered), generous indeed, and even "feels" sincere. I think I'm impressed.

Having listened to that speech in its entirety three times to pull clips and work pieces yesterday, I grew more cynical each time.

Basically, the NRA is doubling down and profiteering. Think how much money they will make via these training courses! Train enough people to staff a volunteer militia for every school and campus in the country? That's billions of dollars in their coffers!

[Jumbo]

I thought what I read in that post sounded more potentially useful (parts more than the whole) than anything I can remember coming from them on a social matter in along time, other than teaching gun safety in general. I haven't listened to the speech, but then I haven't seen any need and certainly have little desire. I've seen a lot of the coverage (though not from Fox, MSBNC, or CNN), scanned some transcript, and it seemed pathetic from all of that, which is hardy a surprise to me.

My general view on the NRA after knowing of it and many members for decades is very negative. I've often though a list of organization officials and members would make an excellent cull list (of course, there would be collateral damage of some decent folks, but then that's an American tradition, too) for social improvement, but that's just me being me.

But Burg, didn't it say they would pay for all costs of implementing the plan? That's why I used the word generous. I may need to go re-read.

[Redskins Diehard]

I thought what I read in that post sounded more potentially useful (parts more than the whole) than anything I can remember coming from them on a social matter in along time, other than teaching gun safety in general. I haven't listened to the speech, but then I haven't seen any need and certainly have little desire. I've seen a lot of the coverage (though not from Fox, MSBNC, or CNN), scanned some transcript, and it seemed pathetic from all of that, which is hardy a surprise to me.

My general view on the NRA after knowing of it and many members for decades is very negative. I've often though a list of organization officials and members would make an excellent cull list (of course, there would be collateral damage of some decent folks, but then that's an American tradition, too) for social improvement, but that's just me being me.

But Burg, didn't it say they would pay for all costs of implementing the plan? That's why I used the word generous. I may need to go re-read.

I was talking to a friend yesterday that is decidedly "anti-gun". And she told me how she remembered from 7th or 8th grade that our "hunter safety" course was brought to us by the NRA(funny how things can stick with you). I was thinking that the NRA would benefit from increased training/certification requirements. Not only would they offer the courses but probably increase their membership. They stand to benefit from responsible gun ownership as a requirement...at least it seems that way to me.

[Jumbo]

I bust on the NRA, sometime harshly, and have for a long time, but I'm not that stupid where I really think everyone in it is a dysfunctional, or dumb-maybe-dangerous "gun nut." A lot of "regular folk" belong to it for a variety of reasons. Growing up in Alaska, I remember NRA working with kids all the time to teach and promote gun safety and responsible ownership.

I think, just like some other big institutions/organisations of the day with very stereotyped characterizations (usually well-earned) they could indeed benefit from a bit of a make over with moderation a guiding concept.

[Destino]

Eh, he needed a game changer considering the Will of the American People just turned dramatically against his organization. This was not that. The speech was a lot of hide the ball. I honestly don't even know why his speech was national news. His organization is about 1% of the US population, he shouldn't have a seat at the table.

Are there many associations with a larger membership count than that? AARP certainly but I wonder how many others can claim so many members.

[scruffylookin]

I vote C

An organization made up of men with very small packages that sadly need to compensate.

Oh and they are enablers to terrorists and murders.

[Burgold]

I thought what I read in that post sounded more potentially useful (parts more than the whole) than anything I can remember coming from them on a social matter in along time, other than teaching gun safety in general. I haven't listened to the speech, but then I haven't seen any need and certainly have little desire. I've seen a lot of the coverage (though not from Fox, MSBNC, or CNN), scanned some transcript, and it seemed pathetic from all of that, which is hardy a surprise to me.

My general view on the NRA after knowing of it and many members for decades is very negative. I've often though a list of organization officials and members would make an excellent cull list (of course, there would be collateral damage of some decent folks, but then that's an American tradition, too) for social improvement, but that's just me being me.

But Burg, didn't it say they would pay for all costs of implementing the plan? That's why I used the word generous. I may need to go re-read.

I don't think so. I think they said they would be a good provider of the services. Now, how those services are funded was not defined. They did claim that arming and manning a force to guard every school in the nation could be done with very little cost, but that I take with a grain of salt. Sort of like when Obama said that his health reform wouldn't cost taxpayers a dime.

[Busch1724]

They are basically their own SuperPAC now

[Burgold]

They are basically their own SuperPAC now

Yup. Their purpose is power not protecting rights