Sources: Tim Tebow QUIT on his Jets teammates today

[Mr. Sinister]

The level of hatred Tim Tebow generates is pretty much, mostly, not his fault.

We've been hearing about Tim Tebow since, what, his junior year in high school? And then he had all that success in college and that got the hype train wound up even more for him, and then he came to the NFL, and in 2011 we thought it reached it's peak. And then ESPN pretty much embarassed themselves (and NFL Network to a lesser but still noticeable extent) this summer with wwha seemed like 24/7 Tebow coverage.

And what makes it all the more annoying to people is that he seems like a genuinely good person. And people, for whatever reason, ****ing hate that. Probably because he gets more press for being a good person than just about any other good person not named Mother Theresa or Jesus.

This thread smacks of someone who has just been waiting for some sort of would be Tim Tebow scandal so they can finally scream "SEE! SEE! I TOLD YOU HE WAS A HORRIBLE PERSON! I WAS RIGHT! I WAS RIGHT!". Tebow has basically been a complete and utter non-factor this year. Even ESPN dialed back their coverage of him. And yet he still illicits reactions of hatred, even when he''s not doing anything at all.

It's always funny seeing people get so bent out of shape about a guy that they actually hope he never plays football ever again. That's kind of a dick move, basically wishing unemployment on someone because, through no fault of his own, he gets a ton of press.

I think a lot of it has to do with his gravitating personality, and wearing his religion on his sleeve, among other things. I think the part that has the most merit is that he's been given opportunities that a lot of quarterbacks didn't have. I was absolutely floored when he was taken in the first round... floored.

If any other QB ( black, white, latino, asian, etc) had Tebow's skillset, but not his personality/heart/whatever, they woul dnot have been taken there. They would have either been undrafted or taken in the 6th round as camp fodder. That's the honest truth. There have been a lot of "Winners" that were never given that kind of opportunity, that we're immensely more talented at passing the football than Tebow.

I get that part, but I think people take it overboard when you consider all of that, and they take shots at him. Like always, the media plays a part in that, with how much they cover him, but Tebow is an amazing guy, so it kind of goes hand in hand. I was one of his biggest critics in that Tebow thread last year, and, although I thought the world of him as a person I thought (and still think) that he absolutely sucks as a passer, and it was almost comical reading some of the responses in that thread, which were so delusional that I started to wonder whether or not they were blowing a line as they were typing. It wasn't personal, that was just my opinion of Tebow the player.

Some people just couldn't separate the two. So yeah, people who were silenced by his miraculous playoff run have been waiting for anything negative to come out, where (in their mind) they're proven correct in their belief that he's a prima donna. Honestly, I think that if some people took a step back and realized that this guy wanted to be a quarterback, was told that he'd be a Personal PP, was told he'd be a "Wildcat" QB, and was promised (allegedly) a backup role, and was at the same time **** on by his locker room, while working his ass off, not making a peep, they could understand his frustration and refusal (allegedly, because honestly he sucked as a wildcat qb as well, so they probably just wanted to go to someone else) to play, even though they didn't like it.

[Bang]

He is limited by the organization he is in. It was fun to watch him last year and it was somewhat intriguing because a coach/organization decided to do something completely unconventional and try something new. It reminds me of what another team has decided to do this year with a certain Heisman qb. Now another team that had a playoff-winning QB has decided to bench him and do the same thing and scrap/limit this conventional stuff for something new, exciting and effective with a qb that has a different skill set.

Welllll..i don't know.
Denver turned in a damn good defensive performance last year. Granted, Tebow did his thing, but like i said above,, can it be duplicated? it would have to be.

It works for us because RG3 can definitely throw with some of the best QBs in the league. He's accurate in the pocket and on the run, He's got a BIG pro arm. he can also burn you with his legs. And that is why it works. Defenses have so many things to key on that it creates holes.
Tebow is clearly one-dimensional. every bit of intel around the league is he simply can't pass the ball.

reminds me more of the Ravens knowing that Trent Dilfer was NOT a good QB, regardless of how the Ravens finished.

~Bang

[darrelgreenie]

The problem with Tebow is that he sucks as a QB

Takes over at QB for a 1-4 teams then and goes 7-4 wins the division, wins a playoff game against the No.1 defense.
Obviously he sucks.....

[I_Bleed_B&G]

Takes over at QB for a 1-4 teams then and goes 7-4 wins the division, wins a playoff game against the No.1 defense.
Obviously he sucks.....

Your're right...He is God awful at QB. Sucks means he can play the position a little bit

[DaveMason]

Tebow debates are one of the most annoying things on the internet. Cicular arguments from both sides.

Just because Tebow won doesn't mean he's good. And just because teams like the Jets refuse to let him start doesn't mean he's bad.

He is definitely "different", though, that's for sure. His run with Denver was fun to watch. Can he duplicate that? Probably not...but I sure am curious enough to want to see him try again. I don't understand why the Jets won't let him play. What exactly do they have to lose? Everybody could see they weren't going anywhere with Sanchez. They should have played Tebow even if only to put stupid internet debates to rest.

[RansomthePasserby]

Some of Tebow's thoughts on the issue...

"For people to not know the situation and start to bash your character and say you're a phony, you're a fake and you're a hypocrite, I think that's what's disappointing and that's what's frustrating," Tebow said. "It's a football game. It's one thing if you're good or bad at football, but your character and integrity, that's who you are as a man.

"That's a lot more important. That's what's disappointing for me and frustrating because I take that way more serious than I'll ever take a football game."

Tebow said he told Ryan he wanted to be a "regular quarterback." Ryan removed Tebow from the Wildcat, using receiver Jeremy Kerley in that role in Sunday's loss to the San Diego Chargers.

"I never said, 'Hey, I don't want to do anything or I won't do anything,' " Tebow said. "That wasn't the talk at all. He knows that and everybody on this team knows I would never not do something if I was asked."

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...-asked-wildcat

[olejoe]

As usual, the OP is offensively out to lunch. Follow the money. If Tebow "quit", then he would have been inactive, listed, suspended, or cut. He was none of these. He was on the sidelines ready and willing to play.

[burgundyrush]

That's a good point also. But no one in their right mind is going to not pick Peyton over Tebow. Elway made the right choice, he sold high.

But Tebow still got a raw deal in New York.

What raw deal??? He was brought in to run the wildcat offense and nothing more. When it became clear the Jets would miss the playoffs why give playing time to a guy you have no interest in bringing back next year. You let Sanchez play because you have no choice but to be committed to him through that horrible contract or you let the other young guy play that has actually showed you something in real game time (win against Cardinals)

[darrelgreenie]

Your're right...He is God awful at QB. Sucks means he can play the position a little bit

When you are confronted with the facts saying he 'sucks' is your only response because that empty rhetoric is all you have.

[Hitman21ST]

What raw deal??? He was brought in to run the wildcat offense and nothing more. When it became clear the Jets would miss the playoffs why give playing time to a guy you have no interest in bringing back next year. You let Sanchez play because you have no choice but to be committed to him through that horrible contract or you let the other young guy play that has actually showed you something in real game time (win against Cardinals)

That's not true at all. If he was brought in to run the wildcat and "nothing more", he wouldn't have been on the punt team.

There were plenty of opportunities to play him (namely, any 3rd or 4th and short or any goal to go situation) where he would have been very effective. That the Jets didn't play him then is the raw deal I am referring to.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

Some of Tebow's thoughts on the issue...



http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...-asked-wildcat

FYI, this differs from what Adam Schefter claims Tebow told him on Sunday night. It also contradicts what Rex Ryan said as well.

I know no one will look into this, and just accept what Tebow said at face value without actually looking at the other words.

So Tebow wont have to worry about anything, no one will bash your character even though it should be looked at a little closer.

[RansomthePasserby]

FYI, this differs from what Adam Schefter claims Tebow told him on Sunday night. It also contradicts what Rex Ryan said as well.

Does it? Per your OP:

Ryan said during his news conference that they wanted to use Kerley because of the element of surprise. Afterward, Ryan, through a team spokesman, said it was a "coach's decision," when asked specifically if Tebow had opted out.

[AsiaticSkinsFan]

Does it? Per your OP:

the post that you are replying to said, "Adam Schefter claims Tebow told him on Sunday Night"

I posted this earlier, but I will post it again

[Hitman21ST]

the post that you are replying to said, "Adam Schefter claims Tebow told him on Sunday Night"

I posted this earlier, but I will post it again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEiZTRJpKDY

Yeah, Schefter says in that video (around the 1:00 mark) that

Tebow told Rex Ryan he wanted to play quarterback; that's where the issue arose from

Then, around the 1:45 mark, Schefter says:

I don't think he said it (that Tebow specifically told Ryan that he didn't want to play in the wildcat) to Rex Ryan on Tuesday...I don't know how that was transmitted to Rex Ryan...I can tell you that he was upset about not playing quarterback and not being used as a quarterback for three downs, and that he and Rex cleared the air on Friday

Where did Schefter report that Tebow said specifically that he didn't want to play in the wildcat?

[RansomthePasserby]

the post that you are replying to said, "Adam Schefter claims Tebow told him on Sunday Night"

I posted this earlier, but I will post it again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEiZTRJpKDY

Ok.

"Tim Tebow basically said to Rex Ryan that he wanted to play quarterback, that was the big issue all along."

-Schefter

"Tebow said he told Ryan he wanted to be a "regular quarterback." Ryan removed Tebow from the Wildcat, using receiver Jeremy Kerley in that role in Sunday's loss to the San Diego Chargers."

- Cimini's article on ESPN

I don't see the difference.

Tebow obviously wanted to play quarterback, told Ryan as much, Kerley was given the Wildcat job, then Tebow later clarified with Ryan that just because he wanted to play quarterback, doesn't mean he isn't willing to do anything for the team.

I don't see what the big deal is, really.