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    Default Re: what was wrong with our passing game against dallas?

    Cowboys started off keying on our pass.

    Our RB was averaging over 7 yards a run.

    G3 didn't have a chance to get his rhythm going until the fourth.
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    For the people saying that we consciously chose to run the ball down their throats -

    Okaaaaay, but that doesn't explain why we looked like crap on the plays where we DIDN'T choose to run it down their throats.

    Griffin completed mostly slants, WR screens, checkdowns, and short throws to the sideline. Where was the 20 yard post down the middle of the field? That's the staple of our entire offense. You'd think on a day where your runningback is blowing holes through the other team's front 7, that there would be a huge opportunity for big gains in the play action passing game. Why was this not exploited? I'm going to look at the all 22 film and see if it was Griffin or was run that way by design.

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    uh, the fact that we had a running game and didn't need to pass the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncr2h View Post
    For the people saying that we consciously chose to run the ball down their throats -

    Okaaaaay, but that doesn't explain why we looked like crap on the plays where we DIDN'T choose to run it down their throats.

    Griffin completed mostly slants, WR screens, checkdowns, and short throws to the sideline. Where was the 20 yard post down the middle of the field? That's the staple of our entire offense. You'd think on a day where your runningback is blowing holes through the other team's front 7, that there would be a huge opportunity for big gains in the play action passing game. Why was this not exploited? I'm going to look at the all 22 film and see if it was Griffin or was run that way by design.
    We took what the defense gave us and won. They were doubling Garcon most of the night and only giving us the underneath stuff through the air so we pounded them on the ground. Griff completed major throws on third downs to help keep our scoring drives alive and it was enough to win by 10 against an awesome WR corps. Not sure what you are complaining about. Griff said himself when the D takes his threat away then Morris will destroy you and vice versa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiverboatGambler View Post
    We took what the defense gave us and won. They were doubling Garcon most of the night and only giving us the underneath stuff through the air so we pounded them on the ground. Griff completed major throws on third downs to help keep our scoring drives alive and it was enough to win by 10 against an awesome WR corps. Not sure what you are complaining about. Griff said himself when the D takes his threat away then Morris will destroy you and vice versa.
    This is correct.

    After the Thanksgiving day game, the Cowboys were not going to lose via the passing game. The committed to taking that away last night. They picked their poison.

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    Default Re: what was wrong with our passing game against dallas?

    Watching the game it didn't seem like the cowboys were coming after RGIII. Seemed like they wanted him to sit back there and make the reads. He def missed a few big passes but hey we got the W and thats what matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NikoBellic View Post
    First of all, HTTR! NFCE champs! This is amazing.

    That said, our passing game looked not so good today. What gives? Was it RG3 making bad decisions or bad throws because he was not healthy? The receivers not getting open enough? I miss the games where our passing game was on fire (e.g. saints, first game against philly and dallas)

    There's no way we'll beat seattle just running the ball like we did today. Seattle's defense is too good AND we need to keep up with their offense which has also been really hot as of late. I hope the skins can fix this during practice this week.
    RG3 was definitely missing some open guys today. I can think of a few occasions where he had guys wide open and just didnt see them, one of these being a WIDE open Pierre Garcon streaking down the left side of the defense (think it was the 3rd quarter).

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    Don't forget the dropped passes, 2 for 1st downs, that being said, RG3's knee was not allowing him to plant his foot correctly

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    We won !!!! Hail to the REDSKINS!!!!!!

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    to me, it seemed like they prepared for an rg3 that couldnt run... and when he showed them he could, it made alfred more effective and we were able to do it all night. i thought he did come out a bit slow when it came to throwing, but he made some plays for us..

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    I think this was the first game where the pressure actually got to RGIII a bit. He was nervous in the first quarter, hense the misses. Made some tight throws into coverage that were completed later in the game, but by then it was clear that the running game was working and if it was working and keeping Dallas off the field, then that's what you do.

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    Default Re: what was wrong with our passing game against dallas?

    just trying to think this over, I remember the first drive's dropped pass with Morgan and the one where Garcon dribbled it like a basketball.

    I also remember the throw away that Carr went for out of bounds.

    Were their other drops, and other obvious throw aways?

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    There's been quite a few times this year where Washington let teams off the hook after establishing the run in the first half.

    Glad that didn't happen last night. Washington was gashing the Cowboys on ground and made enough plays in the passing game to keep drives alive.

    I don't really look at this as a negative, if anything, it will force Seattle to focus on stopping the run possibly giving us more opportunities in the passing game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJL View Post
    just trying to think this over, I remember the first drive's dropped pass with Morgan and the one where Garcon dribbled it like a basketball.

    I also remember the throw away that Carr went for out of bounds.

    Were their other drops, and other obvious throw aways?
    Yeah there were, but I don't think RG3 throwing the ball out of bounds intentionally is a ringing endorsement of our passing game yesterday. What did your eyes tell you? We were absolutely struggling to pose any sort of danger through the air. 2 or 3 intentional throwaways or a dropped pass or 2 don't change that basic fact. It seemed like we only even attempted 1 non-checkdown over the middle all game. What was the reason for that - was it well covered, was RG3 gun shy or off his game, or was it something else?

    One thing that might explain it is something I read in Keim's notes about the game. Apparently, instead of leaving the outside linebackers unblocked in the running game, we were blocking them in the hopes of obscuring their vision and thus making them commit one way or the other without knowing for certain which way was correct. Maybe, in order to keep our offense from being predictable, we had to keep this extra blocker in on the passing plays in order to give the defense that exact same look. I still don't think it really explains everything but maybe it is something.

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    I expect Seattle to do a much better job in the pass rush. I also expect their corners to blanket our WRs with press man similar to Dallas but if you play that way you leave massive voids in the middle for guys leaking late from the back field and making catches on short curl and flat routes you also expose yourself to the butler. You cant effectively play the pass, run and QB keeper against this Offense and Rg3 has been great against the blitz this season. And for the people complaining about our passing game, how would you feel if Griff had a 300yards+ day no turnovers and we lost? You take what the defense gives you and we have been doing this for several games now to great effect. Looking at our stats we ran the same number of plays as dallass and had the same number of possession as well i think it was 11 we controlled Time of Possession and didn't turn the ball over which is why we won along with Alfred beasting. The eagles kept Griff in the box and he had a solid day in the air with nothing on the ground. Dallas played the pass very tight and griff had a great day on the ground and did enough in the air. I love what we are doing. Schematically it must give defensive coordinators nightmares.

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