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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    He is unrestricted. He's been cut by the team twice.

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    See above.

    And he doesn't have to sign his tender.
    if he didn't sign the tender then he sits out of football. But that's a moot point since he is unrestricted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    He is unrestricted. He's been cut by the team twice.

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    See above.

    And he doesn't have to sign his tender.
    This guy seems to differ

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/in-act...s#.UOLQSXfheSo

    "The question is where? Jackson is a restricted free agent after the season, so the Redskins can match any offer he receives. But they also will have Orakpo returning from a torn pectoral muscle (his second in a year)."

    Is this guy wrong?
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    I think people are blinded by the fact Rak was a 1st rounder and essentially the lone bright spot on the team for a couple of years. If its impossible to. Keep both due to the cap, you trade the injury plagued high priced player while you can. Remember Bellicheck trading Pro Bowler Lawyer Milloy in his prime? Similar situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumplestilskin View Post
    This guy seems to differ

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/in-act...s#.UOLQSXfheSo

    "The question is where? Jackson is a restricted free agent after the season, so the Redskins can match any offer he receives. But they also will have Orakpo returning from a torn pectoral muscle (his second in a year)."

    Is this guy wrong?
    I may have been looking at something from last off season. I'm reasonably certain that since he's been cut twice that he isn't restricted to anyone. He's also going into his sixth season next year.
    FREE ROB

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    I may have been looking at something from last off season. I'm reasonably certain that since he's been cut twice that he isn't restricted to anyone. He's also going into his sixth season next year.
    Heres hoping he is restricted but reporters have been wrong before. Then we can see what damage we can do with 50 and Rak and Kerrigan, which in any scenario is the best for this team. Thats how I am bowing out of this debate. We will wait and see what happens.

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    There are not enough snaps for Rak, Jackson and Kerrigan unless Fletcher retires. And even then I dont see either as a MLB.

    Also another thing to consider that without Rak, we dont have anyone in our front who is an automatic doubleteak threat. Orakpo consistently drew doubleteams, Jackson really didnt. Jenkins might be that guy but he's not there yet.

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    Isnt restricted free agency depicted by the number of years accrued in the nfl..? I just seem to remember sav rocca signing a tender a few years back

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    If Jackson leaves that is putting tons of faith in a player who has not been able to stay healthy in the past 2 seasons and could leave the Skins needing to replace Orakpo, Jackson and Fletcher as despite his superhuman resolve is still near the end of his career.

    And for those who keep saying how without Orakpo the team had fewer sacks that is true but his loss wasn't the only reason. Adam Carriker opened up plenty of opportunities for Rak and Kerrigan to get sacks AND have 5.5 of his own. His loss was clearly a huge factor also in the Skin's diminshing sack totals...[COLOR="Gold"]

    in a Pro Bowl player[/B]" -- in the words of Mike Shanahan. Who's opinion, on basically all football-related matters, I think has been vindicated this year.

    A probowler on the perennially losing Redskins (Redskins!) as voted by coaches and peers. Again, re-watch the Saints game. Our pass rush was dynamic, Orakpo was getting pressure, and -- led by our front 7 -- our defense stifled Brees to completing 46% of his passes.

    We haven't seen a dominating performance like that from our D since Orakpo got injured.
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    Hope Orakpo comes back healthy and the Skin's defense is obviously better with him in the lineup but you are overstating things a bit.

    Being a Pro Bowler doesn't mean much on its own, just look at this years selections of Jeff Saturady and Laron Landry for starters.

    In that Saint's game the Skins still allowed 32 points. And actually the defense has played it's best and most dominating games in the 2nd half of the season with the first game against Philly, 17-16 win over NY and NFC East clinching game against Dallas as clear examples.

    Lastly though is using quotes from Shanahan as if somehow that makes them 100% true. Of course coaches are going to praise their players. But if you believe what Shanny says is the gospel here are a few quotes for you from him about John Beck ---

    "When John Beck did come out, I had him as the top-ranked quarterback coming out that year," Shanahan said. "I didn't think it was close, so I've got a lot of confidence in John Beck."

    Shanahan, though, said Beck is "everything you look for in a quarterback," from work ethic to foot speed.

    "He has not disappointed me since he's been here," Shanahan said.

    "I'm not even worried about the quarterback position. I think it's funny (meaning the doubts), because I know the guy can play. I don't even question that. I know [Beck] can play. John will be fine. He'll play and he'll be a good player, because he's an athlete, because he can anticipate throws, and he's extremely bright."

    So let's not pretend that just because a coach says something that it's a measuring stick for a player's true value...[COLOR="Gold"]
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    Rob Jackson is an unrestricted free agent. The Washington Examiner article is wrong. Shocking.

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    Thanks Rob Jackson, show him the money. reward.

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    I think you keep both of them. Jackson in base 34, at OLB, and Rak as a situational pass rusher playing all across the front four in our nickel sets.

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    The debate between Rak and Jax is truly a debate of what you prefer. They are so different it makes no sense to ask which is better. There is no question that Rak wouldn't have made the play Jax did. Matter of fact, Rak has the worst ball skills out of any LB in the league. But teams have to game plan for Rak. He is disruptive all game, even if he doesn't get home.

    So, who is better? Jax is 10x better in coverage. Rak is top 10 pass rusher in the league. What do you want? I want them both. And we will have both. Hopefully we can find a way to get both of them big snaps.
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    Rob Jackson is worth everything to the Redskins because he's a great back-up for Orakpo and Kerrigan! - PERIOD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houston2Taylor2Landry View Post
    So, who is better? Jax is 10x better in coverage. Rak is top 10 pass rusher in the league. What do you want? I want them both. And we will have both. Hopefully we can find a way to get both of them big snaps.
    Sub Jackson in for Riley or Fletcher on passing downs. Jackson is good in coverage, so we take our weakest coverage ILB (Riley) and get Jackson in there. Rak and Kerrigan rushing with Jackson and Fletcher covering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahons21 View Post
    I think you keep both of them. Jackson in base 34, at OLB, and Rak as a situational pass rusher playing all across the front four in our nickel sets.
    LOL ....orakpo as a situational pass rusher? There's too many ways to play the 3-4 while keeping Riley, Fletcher, Kerrigan, Orakpo, and Jackson on the field all at the same time. If anyone can stay fresh its Jackson. He's awesome but Orakpo would be getting paid way too much.
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