How is RGIII?

[skinsfansince1988]

Haha! that's just terrible! I'm dying here!

---------- Post added January-13th-2013 at 04:43 PM ----------



If the Seahawks can't win without Clemons they have bigger issues. While we need to fix our field this is a ****ing joke.

it was they couldn't kick that 65 yd field goal at the end of the game because of FED EX field

[LightningBuggs]

it was they couldn't kick that 65 yd field goal at the end of the game because of FED EX field

Funny. That was my first thought when ATL botched the kickoff. They had to go for Hail Mary. With Longwell a 55+ FG was out of reach.

[WheresRickySanders83]

PFT=TMZ of the NFL.

Everything revolves around negativity, gossip, and failure. The comment section is always filled with miserable people enjoying the suffering of others.

[JMUSkins]

PFT=TMZ of the NFL.

Everything revolves around negativity, gossip, and failure. The comment section is always filled with miserable people enjoying the suffering of others.

Have you seen that Skins fan, logicalvoicesays...? He's hilarious but does make us look silly as a fan base at times.

[WheresRickySanders83]

Have you seen that Skins fan, logicalvoicesays...? He's hilarious but does make us look silly as a fan base at times.

To be honest with you, I've stopped reading the comments below NFL articles, whether they be on Yahoo, PFT, or NFL.com. The rampant negativity and trolling is too much. It wears on you. The amount of negativity online in general bothers me--it's unhealthy.

ETA--people also like to pretend today that mindless negativity is criticism. It's not. I'm all for productive criticism.

[JMUSkins]

To be honest with you, I've stopped reading the comments below NFL articles, whether they be on Yahoo, PFT, or NFL.com. The rampant negativity and trolling is too much. It wears on you. The amount of negativity online in general bothers me--it's unhealthy.

ETA--people also like to pretend today that mindless negativity is criticism. It's not. I'm all for productive criticism.

Which makes it so much harder to bear when the media goes off on the Skins's "running QB" but give a free pass to San Fran and Seattle. You literally never hear someone say that either of those QBs are going to get hurt... they are straight up trolling for ratings.

[cphil006]

Which makes it so much harder to bear when the media goes off on the Skins's "running QB" but give a free pass to San Fran and Seattle. You literally never hear someone say that either of those QBs are going to get hurt... they are straight up trolling for ratings.

You hit the nail on the head... Philip Rivers played a playoff game with an already torn ACL in 2007... Was he or his coaching staff bashed at all? He knowingly put his career in jeopardy. Our situation was different as RG3 was playing with a sprain and injured the knee further picking up a bad snap with no contact... he could have been putting his shoes on after the game and had that happen...

The week leading up to the playoff game vs Seattle there was nothing but praise for what Shanahan had done with RG3 and this offense. The media are like dominos just printing what will get them the most buzz whether it's accurate or not and they all follow each others leads...

[Alrah]

To be honest with you, I've stopped reading the comments below NFL articles, whether they be on Yahoo, PFT, or NFL.com. The rampant negativity and trolling is too much. It wears on you. The amount of negativity online in general bothers me--it's unhealthy.

ETA--people also like to pretend today that mindless negativity is criticism. It's not. I'm all for productive criticism.

Couldn't agree more. People say the most insane things in comments sections on most websites, I rarely read them.

[2cents]

You hit the nail on the head... Philip Rivers played a playoff game with an already torn ACL in 2007... Was he or his coaching staff bashed at all? He knowingly put his career in jeopardy. Our situation was different as RG3 was playing with a sprain and injured the knee further picking up a bad snap with no contact... he could have been putting his shoes on after the game and had that happen...

The week leading up to the playoff game vs Seattle there was nothing but praise for what Shanahan had done with RG3 and this offense. The media are like dominos just printing what will get them the most buzz whether it's accurate or not and they all follow each others leads...

Apparently we are missing the sliding scale of OKness since Rivers is a pocket QB and RGIII is a running QB. Apparently there is a chart somewhere about what is ok and what isn't, but I seem to have missed said chart.

[SWFLSkins]

Some comments from the first Dr. that worked on RGIII

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...=pm_sports_pop

As a former NFL player and an orthopedic surgeon, Mark Adickes is acutely aware of the painful rehabilitation that lies ahead for Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III after his successful knee surgery last week.

In a Fox Sports column the other day, Adickes offered insight as the surgeon who performed RGIII’s 2009 anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction and someone who has consulted with the Griffin family although he was not involved in last week’s surgery. When he speaks of the pain a knee injury, he does so first-hand — he twice had surgery as an athlete at Baylor and in the USFL. Adickes, a lineman, went on to a successful NFL career and won a Super Bowl with the Redskins. As he has said in interviews, he writes that he isn’t concerned about RGIII’s ability to play again the way he did before. “He handled his first setback by leading Baylor to its first 10-win season in decades and winning the Heisman Trophy,” he writes. “I believe this second hurdle will inspire an equally impressive conclusion to a long and stellar NFL career.”

As for the surgery last week and what lies ahead, Adickes writes:

The surgery that Dr. James Andrews performed was a repair of his LCL, a revision reconstruction of his ACL and a repair of his medial meniscus. All three surgeries are significant when done alone. When done together, they comprise a major surgery that leads to an extremely painful and arduous recovery.

---------- Post added January-14th-2013 at 08:52 AM ----------

To be honest with you, I've stopped reading the comments below NFL articles, whether they be on Yahoo, PFT, or NFL.com. The rampant negativity and trolling is too much. It wears on you. The amount of negativity online in general bothers me--it's unhealthy.

ETA--people also like to pretend today that mindless negativity is criticism. It's not. I'm all for productive criticism.

It certainly paints an ugly picture of what lies behind the keyboards of the world.

---------- Post added January-14th-2013 at 08:53 AM ----------

To be honest with you, I've stopped reading the comments below NFL articles, whether they be on Yahoo, PFT, or NFL.com. The rampant negativity and trolling is too much. It wears on you. The amount of negativity online in general bothers me--it's unhealthy.

ETA--people also like to pretend today that mindless negativity is criticism. It's not. I'm all for productive criticism.

It certainly paints an ugly picture of what lies behind the keyboards of the world.

[pjfootballer]

You know, I had some time to think about it. Maybe this was a blessing in disguise. I mean, say he doesn't get hurt against the Ravens. He plays all 16 games, then in the 3rd game next year, that old ACL "comes apart" as Andrews said it was a matter of time. Then, we miss him for all of 2013 and possibly 2014. So, with this, he actually has a chance to play all of 2013 without fear of it giving out.

---------- Post added January-14th-2013 at 09:19 AM ----------

I've had two knee surgeries and shoulder surgery. On mine I can say they started rehab as soon as I was awake. No, nothing strenuous but stability exercises. They would have me tighten my quad (knee) or squeeze a rubber ball (shoulder). This took place as soon as I came out of anesthesia. HTTR

This may sound funny, but I broke my left middle finger and the tip went back the other way. I had to have rehab on my finger (hand) and they started it 2 days after surgery. Most of it was me flexing it with the aid of rubbers bands, but yes, they start rehab much sooner these days.

---------- Post added January-14th-2013 at 09:24 AM ----------

I had a spiral fracture of my right middle finger about 11 years ago -- found some &$%@! in my car one night after clubbing and fought with him (I figured that if he didn't immediately shoot me, I was ok; besides, he just wanted to flee). I grabbed him and he twisted, thus the spiral fracture. Surgery involved pins and such though I don't recall the deets except the doc had to tack a tendon down. Anyway, I was in a soft splint for about a month or so and man did that finger stink when it came off. Anyway, rehab was a be-yotch. When you don't move a joint for that long, the muscles ossify. I literally had only a few degrees of bend in my knuckle. Oh, originally, my finger, from the knuckle, was bent 90 degrees right. To this day, when I let my hand slacken, there's still about 15 degrees of bend. Anyway, rehab consisted of dipping my hand in hot wax for a few minutes, then all kinds of bending exercises. You think it's simple, but your muscles are useless from inactivity and you have to really struggle to bend the finger. 3 months of 2x/week rehab plus daily exercises on my own. Thankfully I was insured. Can't play guitar as well as I used to (pick holding). It gave me a huge new perspective on what athletes go through when they are injured. Oh, and that bone is slightly noticeably larger than its counterpart due to bone growth caused by recovering from the injury. Get well RGIII -- but do it properly. We want you to grow old winning SBs in D.C.

Exact injuy I had. The tendon was still attached to a piece of bone and they had to screw it back in. Had a half cast on the back of my hand, but they made me move it, like I said, 2 days after surgery. I had a button on top of my fingernail to hold it in place for a while and they glued bra clips to my fingernails to attach the rubberbands to that had hooks on velcro down by my elbow. Up and down, up and down, 6 times a day I had to do it. They say I rehabbed faster than anyone they've seen. I would just sit and watch TV and excercise it. I can bend my finger about 97% all the way down, but it's still crooked at the top. It goes to the left towards my ring finger. Mine was playing football and they called it "jersey finger" as I tried to make the tackle and he twisted and my finger got caught in the jersey and the tip of my finger bent back the other way.

[clskinsfan]

Which makes it so much harder to bear when the media goes off on the Skins's "running QB" but give a free pass to San Fran and Seattle. You literally never hear someone say that either of those QBs are going to get hurt... they are straight up trolling for ratings.

Look at the body type of those other guys. RG3 is long and lean like a sprinters body. Kaepernick and Newton are just huge and Wilson is stocky.

[Fat Stupid Loser]

Which makes it so much harder to bear when the media goes off on the Skins's "running QB" but give a free pass to San Fran and Seattle. You literally never hear someone say that either of those QBs are going to get hurt... they are straight up trolling for ratings.

I think this is because of our offense. Yeah, the other guys run some, but our scheme makes Robert a "running" QB. SF and Seattle have more traditional passing with some zone/read. Those guys are dropping back and throwing the ball all over the field. Our scheme doesn't do that. We have zone/read, run, sideways passes and quick 6 yard slants off play action. Now we all know Robert can throw it all over the field and very accurately, because we have seen it. But until our scheme changes, he is a running QB. The scheme needs to develop Robert into a more traditional QB who can run. I suspect this will have to happen because he is not going to be able to run like that anymore.

[cphil006]

Look at the body type of those other guys. RG3 is long and lean like a sprinters body. Kaepernick and Newton are just huge and Wilson is stocky.

Whether he's built like a sprinter (hurdler) or linebacker he injured the ACL most likely picking up a bad snap on a crappy field that could have happened taking off his cleats in the locker room. If Shanahan knew his knee would buckle he would not have had him out there. Hindsight is always much clearer. What happened was extremely unfortunate, but the media is taking advantage of an opening to bash someone they had praised a week earlier.

[cphil006]

I think this is because of our offense. Yeah, the other guys run some, but our scheme makes Robert a "running" QB. SF and Seattle have more traditional passing with some zone/read. Those guys are dropping back and throwing the ball all over the field. Our scheme doesn't do that. We have zone/read, run, sideways passes and quick 6 yard slants off play action. Now we all know Robert can throw it all over the field and very accurately, because we have seen it. But until our scheme changes, he is a running QB. The scheme needs to develop Robert into a more traditional QB who can run. I suspect this will have to happen because he is not going to be able to run like that anymore.

With this being a copy-cat league I think San Fran ran the read-option very effectively this weekend. It was so effective that Kaepernick ran for a record number of yards by a QB. I don't see why RG3 wouldn't still have his moments of read-option, but begin to slide more often and get out of bounds as to not take as many hits. He's going to come back with great speed for a QB, but perhaps a step slower than this season at worst. The playbook will continue to expand as he grows and learns the system.