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    Quote Originally Posted by Pskins View Post
    Here's a crazy idea. How about trading up? We have a 2nd and 2 third round picks. Package them and get back into the first round and get real defensive talent.
    Doesn't sound crazy at all to me man.

    I'd rather do that and take one top level starter whilst we're handicapped than muddle through bringing in sub-standard FA's or adding depth players just because.

    Hail.

    *Edit* 'Cept we can't afford to package all three. The second and a third at best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Robert Griffin Experience View Post
    Fun fact: both RGIII injuries were on scrambles made necessary by Polumbus getting beat.

    Also I never want to hear "trade down" ever again. Trading down got us Hankerson and Helu instead of J.J Watt.
    UMMM is that suppose to be a bad thing? LMFAO this fanbase is funny! Helu has 4.3 speed and vision... the best thing you can wish for in order for RH to be a bust is injuries..LOL Hank will be just fine too he will be a good number 3 and a hell of a a number 4 wr in one of the best offenses in the NFL so say how do I know this because we already are thst this season
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    Generally speaking, keep doing what we've been doing the past few off seasons:

    1) trade down and focus on mining value from mid and late-round picks. That's where depth is built, and depth is what carries a team through the December games and into the playoffs.
    2) avoid high-priced free agents, but if an up-and-comer is available (Garcon, for example) move quickly and sign him.
    3) have our coaching staff attend the offseason college all-star games (North-South, etc.) like last year, so that they can better assess the incoming draft class.
    4) trim salary cap space and cut expensive veterans, even if hurts (like we did with Cooley, Portis, etc.) We're still in rebuilding/youth movement mode, and we shouldn't lose sight of it.

    In terms of specific positions, we should focus on safety, cornerback, and pass-rushers. With smaller-sized offensive linemen needed for the ZBS, find value with another mid-round o-line pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pskins View Post
    Here's a crazy idea. How about trading up? We have a 2nd and 2 third round picks. Package them and get back into the first round and get real defensive talent.
    You're right that is a crazy idea.


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    If Orakpo is healthy, there is no need to waste money on a pass rusher. Rebuilding the secondary is vital to this team.

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    Depth is good, but we need some playmakers on both sides of the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zazzaro703 View Post
    I'm happy with him as last man on the depth chart. He does give his best, but he shouldn't be in a starting or major role. Ever. And it always seems he is.
    Doughty showed me heart in the truest moments. When we said Super Bowl RD must have put on ST21 film and got inspriation or somthing but the boy was out there balling. Him and Paulsen have hearts, and players like that are hard to come by. Now are they the most talented players no, but give me less talent with heart, then talent with no heart when things get real. I was once Reeds biggest critic,but now I must say he showed me he has the heart that champions have. Him, One man gang, LP, DY, all belong on this team they have earned it with there hearts. Hail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murphs56 View Post
    If Orakpo is healthy, there is no need to waste money on a pass rusher. Rebuilding the secondary is vital to this team.
    No question, but we equally need a dominating 34 NT to really elevate this D. And a quality replacement for Fletcher. There's too many pieces, with too few top end draft picks and the continued cap B/S to allow us to fix this, this coming Spring.

    Hail.

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    Conclusion? **** you Mara!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gibbs Hog Heaven View Post
    There's too many pieces, with too few top end draft picks and the continued cap B/S to allow us to fix this, this coming Spring.
    Which is why BPA is the best idea for us. Trade up and get some playmakers on both sides of the ball rather than attempt to fill up a thimble's worth of holes with a modest budget. A couple of studs will help everyone around them play better.
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    Which is why BPA is the best idea for us. Trade up and get some playmakers on both sides of the ball rather than attempt to fill up a thimble's work of holes with a modest budget. A couple of studs will help everyone around them play better.
    I'm with you man. As I replied to someone above, I'd rather get at least one top bracket long term starter, than a whole bunch of quality to mediocre depth players. 2014 we'll have a full draft in terms of a first and be back on track with the cap to really attack our holes. This coming year, we need to do the best we can at quality starter level even if it means we don't make many moves.

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    Our "shopping list" will once again be hamstrung by that $18MM cap hit for exceeding the cap in an uncapped year (someone is still going to have to explain that one to me).

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    First pick, Free Safety. With Merriweather (God willing he comes back healthy and can stay healthy) he will be an amazing SS. Keep Doughty, great run stopper and blitzer.
    Second pick, Corner. Need as good as you can get in a solid corner with some size...look for a Sherman type in the draft. Josh Wilson is undersized and just average.
    Third pick: Right Tackle...should be able to pick up a good RT on free agency, or trade for Long and turn him into a RT. Polumbus did show signs of improvement.
    Fourth pick: Another corner. Best available.
    Fifth pick: Big bodied WR posession receiver that is not afraid to go over the middle or jump in corner of endzone.

    Other than RT and a big bodied possession WR, we are set on O. We have an improving O line, gelling with each other. The longer they stay together the more effective they are. The most exciting QB in the NFL, top 3 RB, good solid back up RBs (when healthy, don't forget what Royster and Helu did as rookies), stud TE in Davis, Garcon is a game changer, Moss came through in the slot, and burners on the outside with Robinson and Briscoe. Morgan is solid, Hankerson, the jury is still out. Focus on the D....we will be getting Orakpo back which means that we will have a much better pass rush next year, and Jackson, Riley and Fletcher (along with Keenan Robinson) make up a great group of LBs..the Secondary is our weakest link and are only effective when we rush 3 or 4....
    I would open up a spot for a LONG kicker as well...It may seem crazy, but as good as Forbath is on FGs he cannot kick it deep giving the other team a chance for returns...also Plus 52 yards, he doesn't have a chance. I seriously would bring back Gano just for kick offs and long FG attempts..dude made a 60 yarder and boots it out of the endzone every time. To me, this is worth a spot every Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FSUSkins24 View Post
    You're right that is a crazy idea.
    Did you see (during a commercial come-back) where they showed the presser of Albert saying what's in your sig? Thought hubby was gonna have a full meltdown...couldn't get over his humility.

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    We need an explosive third down back with speed. That is the only thing we were missing on offense. This person also needs to be able to return kicks and punt's as well. We were severely lacking in this department. Draft a guy or look into Harvin or Bush. Probably too expensive. In the option Robert also needs an outside threat. That and an upgrade at right tackle.
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