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Thread: 2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

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    Default Re: The Official 2013 Washington Redskins FA Database (OP will be updated) Signed: Futures list on OP; DE P. Merling, R. Brace; Re-signed: L. Paulsen, D. Young, R. Jackson (In principal), K. Lich

    Quote Originally Posted by Redskins2up2downVA View Post
    So the 6 players that could be cut are?
    Santana
    Hall
    Fletcher
    Carriker
    Chester
    And who else. Thats all i can think of.
    Fletcher is not being cut

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    Default Re: The Official 2013 Washington Redskins FA Database (OP will be updated) Signed: Futures list on OP; DE P. Merling, R. Brace; Re-signed: L. Paulsen, D. Young, R. Jackson (In principal), K. Lich

    Quote Originally Posted by skinsfansince1988 View Post
    Fletcher is not being cut
    It's not impossible.

    I'd add Reed Doughty to the list as he has a cap number of over $1M and we can save all that by cutting him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinC View Post
    It's not impossible.

    I'd add Reed Doughty to the list as he has a cap number of over $1M and we can save all that by cutting him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post
    With the consensus being we cut Hall too, then who plays corner? I for one don't like the idea of having two new starting corners.
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    Can't see us cutting both Hall AND Wilson. Tough to replace two starting corners at the same time.
    I'm not suggesting we should cut Wilson, but if we are so strapped to the point of having to cut upwards of 6 players, why are we not looking at a guy like Wilsons contract instead?..Stick 2 or 3 years onto his contract, convert his $4m salary to 75% bonus as save $2/3m 2013 cap space right way.

    That type of saving is probably greater than all but ~3 other options we currently have via out-right cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK SKINS FAN '74 View Post
    I'm not suggesting we should cut Wilson, but if we are so strapped to the point of having to cut upwards of 6 players, why are we not looking at a guy like Wilsons contract instead?..Stick 2 or 3 years onto his contract, convert his $4m salary to 75% bonus as save $2/3m 2013 cap space right way.

    That type of saving is probably greater than all but ~3 other options we currently have via out-right cuts.
    I can certainly see a restructure for Wilson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinC View Post
    I can certainly see a restructure for Wilson.
    I can see a restructure for both making the most sense.
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    I don't think wilson gets cut as we can't replace him with 4m. Hall on the other hand might well be cut because we could replace him and save a little, but really not much. Chester is gone imo, though he played well he apparently has some knee issues and frankly he is our oldest lineman. Moss is also likely cut as he isn't a starter anymore and while he gave nice production as a slot/3rd it's probably put up or shut up time for some younger wide outs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post
    I can see a restructure for both making the most sense.

    With Hall it needs to be a significant pay cut with no extra years rather than a restructure. Sounds like we may just be cutting the cord with Hall though.

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    Default Re: The Official 2013 Washington Redskins FA Database (OP will be updated) Signed: Futures list on OP; DE P. Merling, R. Brace; Re-signed: L. Paulsen, D. Young, R. Jackson (In principal), K. Lich

    While there might be as many as six players avoiding the phone, does anyone think we'll need to cut all six to get sufficiently under the cap? Should we include players like Brandon Banks and Chris Baker in this list? I can definitely see us cutting Hall, Moss and Carriker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinC View Post
    I can certainly see a restructure for Wilson.
    Yeah, which is why I was surprised the other day when it was put out that we had not spoken to him about re-doing his contract. He's in his last year, so it needs to be an extension, but still, if he's considered a medium term contributor it seems odd to carry his +$5m cap number this year, then cut others to save $1m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UK SKINS FAN '74 View Post
    I'm not suggesting we should cut Wilson, but if we are so strapped to the point of having to cut upwards of 6 players, why are we not looking at a guy like Wilsons contract instead?..Stick 2 or 3 years onto his contract, convert his $4m salary to 75% bonus as save $2/3m 2013 cap space right way.

    That type of saving is probably greater than all but ~3 other options we currently have via out-right cuts.
    I think the team is trying very hard not to do things like this. They don't want to spend next years cap before next year's offseason.. Wilson's contract is very reasonable for a starting corner. Which mean deferring that money to another year will make his cap figure pretty high. Even if they extended him i am not sure i would expect a lot of cap savings from it. I genuinely think the team would rather cut some valuable older players rather than force bonus' into next year and beyond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinC View Post
    With Hall it needs to be a significant pay cut with no extra years rather than a restructure. Sounds like we may just be cutting the cord with Hall though.
    If he agreed to it, I'd love to cut him and the resign him for vet minimum. He's been overpaid enough while he's here, he can afford it. And I don't think too many teams are gonna be knocking on his door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post
    If he agreed to it, I'd love to cut him and the resign him for vet minimum. He's been overpaid enough while he's here, he can afford it. And I don't think too many teams are gonna be knocking on his door.
    He is only 29/30 he would command significantly more than vet min. Still less than his current contract, but way more than the min.
    We work together and your name is Richard and I call you Dick and you hate it. You ask me to stop. I refuse, so you go to HR and they say "well he has been calling you Dick for several months so we think you set the precedence, sorry". Frustrated you ask me again." Hey man stop calling me Dick" I say "Sorry Dick, it's tradition, HR said so" Well in that scenario there is only one dick and it aint Richard. Why be that guy?

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