2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

[method man]

I thought Rob Jackson was a RFA?

Edit yea he is heres a link:
https://twitter.com/granthpaulsen/st...36555934879744

This is huge. This is one guy we need to bring back on a multi-year deal. One year is not an option. On the defensive side of the ball, you can't have enough quality depth in this league.

[sjinhan]

This is huge. This is one guy we need to bring back on a multi-year deal. One year is not an option. On the defensive side of the ball, you can't have enough quality depth in this league.

but how much money you think Rob Jackson is going to ask for?

If we can get him for "cheap" for 3-4 year contract it would be great ala L. Alexander but who knows maybe Rob Jackson think he can start somewhere if he just signs the 1 year contract next year and hit the FA.

[doghouse4x4]

We do NOT want Mathieu. Kid is ridiculously overrated. I watched hours of his tape at LSU.

[method man]

With all the injuries on defense this year, I'd wonder if they'd sign two guys with durability issues. Porter had that rap last year when he was a FA and am gathering he wasn't at least it seemed a hot FA target for teams I'd gather for that reason thereby had to do a 1 year contract. Phillips it seems is out 4 games or so or more every year for the Giants.

Good point but in my proposed lineups we have enough quality depth to overcome potential injuries to these 2 guys. One thing I've learned about the NFL is that even if you have the cap space to spend, don't do it. It pays to get these hungry highly talented "scrap heap" guys instead and focus on building quality depth, which is why I love what Shanny has done by consistently trading down in the draft to stack up picks.

The NFL these days is a game of attrition. Every team complains about their injury bug and how they are the hardest hit team in the league but you have to plan on losing at least 4-6 key players for the season or significant stretches in today's NFL. The Rob Jacksons, Josh LeRibeus's, Jarvis Jenkins and heck the Morris's of the world (he did get his shot due to the injuries in camp!) are essential for getting to the playoffs and winning Super Bowls.

Furthermore, if you build the depth in camp and have to let some of these guys go during cuts, you can bring many back about ready to go during the season as injuries pile up.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

I saw on John Clayton's article
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2012...t-cap-strategy
that the skins are $4.1m over after accounting for carryover cap?

Though I'm no cap expert I feel we may not have enough cap to sign more than 1 marquee FA this year. If that is the case, I would go for a great Safety, that would be Jarius Byrd or Dashon Goldson or Kenny Phillips. Together with Tanard Jackson, Gomes, Doughty we could shore up the secondary, which IMO is the weakest link we have.

I know RT is another concern but watching the running games during the winning streak, Tyler Polumbus was getting it done on the running game though his pass blocking needs improvement.

It seems like we are always in this position. Im sure contracts will be worked out and we will be able to sign some guys. Not too worried about it yet.

[method man]

but how much money you think Rob Jackson is going to ask for?

If we can get him for "cheap" for 3-4 year contract it would be great ala L. Alexander but who knows maybe Rob Jackson think he can start somewhere if he just signs the 1 year contract next year and hit the FA.

Rob Jackson is a man who has made less than $1.2M over his 5 year NFL career. I think if you give him a 7 figure signing bonus, he is back here.

[Btubes18]

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I thought about that and thought it was overkill. But since you mentioned it, yes, I'll add that to the OP!

Thanks, it will be interesting what coaches (if any) are rplaced or move on to other positions.

[Skinsinparadise]

No way in hell do I want that kid in Washington next year. He's going to be the next Pac-man in regards to off field issues but without the talent. No thanks.

Safety has to be the #1 concern going into FA. Ive never been more embarassed of our safety play, especially after the @NY Giants game. How do you let that happen? I would love spending money on any of the safeties..

-Dashon Goldson, Free Safety, San Francisico (28)
-William Moore, Free Safety, Atlanta (27)
-Jairus Byrd, Free Safety, Buffalo (26)
-Glover Quin, Free Safety, Houston (26)
-Kenny Phillips, Free Safety, New York Giants (26)

Phillips -- durability concerns -- so we likely got to deal with M. Williams or another backup playing at least 1/4 of the season. He IMO is a good but far from great player so I do weigh durability with him.

Byrd and Goldson -- I think the team franchises them or if not they will be too expensive

Quinn is young and durable, played great last week against Cincy.

W. Moore has had hamstring issues this year and has missed games in his career.

---------- Post added January-8th-2013 at 04:17 PM ----------

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...gent-safeties/

Wow interesting. Byrd by a mile is ranked tops statistically. It would seem a no brainer to me though for the Bills to franchise him or he gets a big time contract so I doubt he's in play.

[Skins199021]

I had a huge write up and it got messed up. I was saying it is much easier to maneuver around the cap situation now because we can just backload after the 1st year insetad of 2. I really don't see it affecting us that much this year.

I predict one big signing and a couple of under the radar/underrated signings of young, very solid guys

so my FA signings would be:

WR: Mike Wallace
CB: Derek Cox
FS: Glover Quin
RT: Ryan Harris

**If we cut ties with both T-Jax and Merriweather** Sign William Moore for SS

Resign: Davis, Jackson, Alexander

[mezcal14]

He isn't a free agent, but it appears that Percy Harvin may be on the market this offseason as well. Here's a recent PFT article implying as much:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-will-be-back/

There is no denying that he is an amazing talent, if not a bit of a malcontent, although to his credit he seems to always air his grievances in private, and doesn't create any media circuses. However, the prospect of being on a young, up and coming team with a Super Bowl winning coach and one of the most exciting QBs in the league throwing him the ball and hey, maybe that attitude goes out the window. It's amazing what winning does to a person's outlook.

That being said, I don't know what the price or process would be to get him. Given his status, picking him up may require draft picks, something we don't exactly have a surplus of right now. I don't know how it works quite frankly, but wanted to bring his name into the discussion. The Vikings are shooting themselves in the foot in terms of value that they're going to get for him if everyone knows that they'd like to gt rid of him.

[Tulane Skins Fan]

Seriously. If Vontaze Burfict can overcome his litany of issues, why can't this kid overcome a light addiction to marijuana?

Mathieu is not a great prospect to start with. Doesn't have the size needed.

[skinsfan_1215]

Hey guys I just got done playing Madden and traded Orakpo for Harvin straight up! He was a BEAST with RG3!!!


In all seriousness though, I would love Harvin on this team. I have no clue what it would cost to get him, but if it wasn’t TOO much I think we’d have to consider it. The dynamic play making ability of him, Garcon, and RG3, combined with the consistency of AlMo running the ball would just be brutal for defenses.

[Timberob]

No way would Mike Wallace help this team. He runs one route and is junk everywhere else. No thanks If you want a big receiver go Greg Jennings.

[Alcoholic Zebra]

I predict one big signing and a couple of under the radar/underrated signings of young, very solid guys

so my FA signings would be:

WR: Mike Wallace
CB: Derek Cox
FS: Glover Quin
RT: Ryan Harris

I'd rather our huge signing (that we don't have money for) be someone other than Mike Wallace. No complaints about the next two, but why Ryan Harris? I'd rather we just play Maurice Hurt/Tom Compton instead. Harris has been injury plagued and has been on a lot of different teams lately, including two in the past season. I think it's telling if Houston doesn't want him back since they have RT issues of their own, and run the same scheme.

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No way would Mike Wallace help this team. He runs one route and is junk everywhere else. No thanks If you want a big receiver go Greg Jennings.

Greg Jennings has had nagging injuries the past two seasons. The Packers are letting him walk because they can't rely on him. We should just let someone else overpay for someone with injury issues.

[Skins199021]

Mathieu is not a great prospect to start with. Doesn't have the size needed.

How can people still say something so ignorant. I know a certain Redskins CB that was 5-9 and did alright with us while he played.

People thinking like that and letting him slip is exactly what created value for the other teams not blinded by such ignorant thoughts

---------- Post added January-8th-2013 at 04:53 PM ----------

I'd rather our huge signing (that we don't have money for) be someone other than Mike Wallace. No complaints about the next two, but why Ryan Harris? I'd rather we just play Maurice Hurt/Tom Compton instead. Harris has been injury plagued and has been on a lot of different teams lately, including two in the past season. I think it's telling if Houston doesn't want him back since they have RT issues of their own, and run the same scheme.

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Greg Jennings has had nagging injuries the past two seasons. The Packers are letting him walk because they can't rely on him. We should just let someone else overpay for someone with injury issues.

Wallace would be an upgrade times 100 over anyone on the roster to line up next to Garcon. Harris will come cheap, and is much more talented than any of those guys when he plays. If he stays healthy its so worth it