2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

[Dukes and Skins]

I think we can now unanimously agree. Keenan Lewis should be one of our top targets in FA.

I fully agree. Lewis should be our target at CB. Glover Quin would be a very good option at SS as well

[SemperFi Skins]

Beautiful! I think I was the first on the thread waving the Lewis banner....

Correction, I was the first

But yes, very good points as well... Extremely underrated.

[thesubmittedone]

I want a Keenan Lewis and I want one now!

[SemperFi Skins]

I also wanted to note that if Mike Shanny is looking for a veteran to add to the DLine depth... look for Justin Bannan, NT/DT, if the Broncos decide to let him walk.

Although, he may up and retire if Broncos decide not to retain him...

[FedExT-Rex]

good infor...thanks

I'm an NCSU guy so I've seen a lot of David over the past couple years. Nicest guy you'll ever meet. To me he's a D-Hall type on the field--ballhawk, gambles a lot. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. He had an amazing sophomore season in which he broke the INT record but this past year he fell back to earth. I'd say he's probably worth a 3rd-4th rounder.

[doghouse4x4]

I want a Keenan Lewis and I want one now!

[ZRagone]

Correction, I was the first

But yes, very good points as well... Extremely underrated.

Not generally into pissing contests but since you wanted to put in the correction ...

Check post #183 from January 8th. Lewis was my second choice CB at the time, behind Sean Smith as I liked Smith's size and I thought the Steelers may actually hold onto Lewis. Your first mention was post #282 on the 10th. I've actually been enjoying reading your posts on it because you've had some good insight and has actually fully sold me on him.

Either way, great minds think alike. Lewis would be a wonderful target. Second in the league in passes defended and seems to not have stone hands like Carlos, so seems to have the skills to be a stout cover guy. Still young, shouldn't come too expensive, and from some his comments seems like he has a small chip on his shoulder if he gets let go which I think is very good in a cornerback as an intangible type of thing.

I don't know so much if he's "underrated" as I'd almost say under the radar. In other Free Agency periods I think he'd be closer to a top 3 guy. We're just lucky this time that he's coming out at a time with a higher profile promising young guy in Grimes along with two "Big Names" with draft pedigree in DRC and Talib. It seems like a pretty good year for Corners in free agency, which is very lucky for us since it will drive the prices down a bit in a year where we can't spend a ton.

[LaxinFish29]

Not generally into pissing contests but since you wanted to put in the correction ...

Check post #183 from January 8th. Lewis was my second choice CB at the time, behind Sean Smith as I liked Smith's size and I thought the Steelers may actually hold onto Lewis. Your first mention was post #282 on the 10th. I've actually been enjoying reading your posts on it because you've had some good insight and has actually fully sold me on him.

Either way, great minds think alike. Lewis would be a wonderful target. Second in the league in passes defended and seems to not have stone hands like Carlos, so seems to have the skills to be a stout cover guy. Still young, shouldn't come too expensive, and from some his comments seems like he has a small chip on his shoulder if he gets let go which I think is very good in a cornerback as an intangible type of thing.

I don't know so much if he's "underrated" as I'd almost say under the radar. In other Free Agency periods I think he'd be closer to a top 3 guy. We're just lucky this time that he's coming out at a time with a higher profile promising young guy in Grimes along with two "Big Names" with draft pedigree in DRC and Talib. It seems like a pretty good year for Corners in free agency, which is very lucky for us since it will drive the prices down a bit in a year where we can't spend a ton.

If hes in the top for passes defended but has one career pick, how does he not have hands like Los? Not being a smart ass, just asking because I know NOTHING about him other than his stats and what has been said in this thread.

[ZRagone]

If hes in the top for passes defended but has one career pick, how does he not have hands like Los? Not being a smart ass, just asking because I know NOTHING about him other than his stats and what has been said in this thread.

Touche! I actually had some of my information mixed up in my head.

The pick number is worrisome. That said...I'll admit, as annoying as Carlos's stone hands were, after he was gone I massively missed his cover skills compared to the feast/famine that was D-Hall as our main guy.

Not a smart ass at all...my memory was off and you corrected it. Thanks I'll have to go search for his college numbers.

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Looks like 4 as a Senior, 3 as a Junior. None before.

As a comparison to Carlos 2 as a senior, 1 as a junior, and 4 as a sophmore (strangely, kind of fits with the notion of Carlos's eye sight playing a part in it as it would've been degrading over that time period).

[MrJL]

Touche! I actually had some of my information mixed up in my head.

The pick number is worrisome. That said...I'll admit, as annoying as Carlos's stone hands were, after he was gone I massively missed his cover skills compared to the feast/famine that was D-Hall as our main guy.
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biggest issue with Rogers dropping INTs is that I swear every time he dropped a pick the other team scored a TD.

[LaxinFish29]

Touche! I actually had some of my information mixed up in my head.

The pick number is worrisome. That said...I'll admit, as annoying as Carlos's stone hands were, after he was gone I massively missed his cover skills compared to the feast/famine that was D-Hall as our main guy.

Not a smart ass at all...my memory was off and you corrected it. Thanks I'll have to go search for his college numbers.

-edit-

Looks like 4 as a Senior, 3 as a Junior. None before.

As a comparison to Carlos 2 as a senior, 1 as a junior, and 4 as a sophmore (strangely, kind of fits with the notion of Carlos's eye sight playing a part in it as it would've been degrading over that time period).

It happens. I was always in the camp of supporting Los. His hands/eyes were horrible but I like the guys that can cover even if they dont get the INTs. I would love to have Lewis, if he can cover like you guys say, Wilson as our 1 &2, with Hall getting to roam a little bit. Since I have no reason to doubt y'all so I'm officially Pro Lewis.

[J-bomb]

Skins contact J Bates to replace hillard as our wrs coach...Bates held same pos in denver when mike was hc.

[rk3025]

Morris let him go in 2009 from Bucs which ran a 4-3

[J-bomb]

Morris let him go in 2009 from Bucs which ran a 4-3

Kinda wish the browns sign Morris just so they don't get Horton DC from zona..Would be nice to add him to our 3-4 staff..Then he can have the gig when some awful team offers Haz more $ or hc gig..

[RWJ]

Skins contact J Bates to replace hillard as our wrs coach...Bates held same pos in denver when mike was hc.

We tried to sign Bates once before under Shanny. Hopefully, we can do it this time. It would be an upgrade over Hillard. Not saying Hillard was bad but Bates is more seasoned.