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Thread: 2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    ahem.... $36 mil
    yeah, I fail at math. Was thinking of something else when I was typing that.
    Meant to put 36/18
    Barry Cofield is LEGIT... no more nonsense about we need a "real" NT... HE IS THE REAL DEAL!!!! He goes to the Pro Bowl this year, book it!!!

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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus T Firefly View Post
    That's nice, but I'm not sure what it has to with what I was saying. We are (apparently) over the cap right now, with a number of our own FAs to re-sign, RFAs to be tendered, draft picks to sign, and you're advocating bringing in at least 2 starters in FA. Obviously we need to make a good amount of cap space.
    It has to do with pushing off the problems to future years.

    We're not trying to make a dozen signings here. We're trying to make one or two impact signings and role players... then we'll sign draft picks. I don't believe that's going to take moving a bunch of mountains. If we needed seven or eight players, then yes. One or two and then making room for signing draft picks? That's child's play.
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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    March 12th would like to have us pickup a receiver at least.
    Austin from Dallas would be fine with me.
    Last edited by rk3025; February-4th-2013 at 04:45 PM.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    This was just posted on Rotoworld (Evan Silva): http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...-rankings?pg=2

    Title of the article is "Team Needs and Roster Rankings"

    Teams are ranked in order of roster quality
    11. Washington Redskins

    OL: Left tackle Trent Williams, center Will Montgomery, and right guard Chris Chester are all signed long term and make up the core of Washington's zone-blocking offensive line. The unit's two 2012 weak links -- left guard Kory Lichtensteiger and right tackle Tyler Polumbus -- are both headed for free agency. Last year's third-rounder Josh LeRibeus might be able to handle left guard moving forward, but Washington does not have a viable in-house right tackle replacement.

    CB: DeAngelo Hall's openness to a contract restructure helps matters, but there is next to no depth behind him and fellow starter Josh Wilson. Nickel back Cedric Griffin's contract is up, and seventh-rounder Richard Crawford was the only other Washington corner to play significant 2012 snaps. The Redskins shouldn't feel truly comfortable at any of their four defensive back positions.

    LB: Brian Orakpo's return helps this unit on paper, but it's fair to wonder if he's become unreliable physically. Orakpo has twice torn his left pectoral muscle and didn't recover fully the first time. Ryan Kerrigan remains a stud bookend, but 2012 Orakpo replacement Rob Jackson's contract is up and there is no remaining depth. Washington needs to continue to prioritize pass rushers.

    TE: The Redskins can make this position better if free agent Fred Davis is re-signed and recovers smoothly from Achilles' surgery, but it's a concern at the moment. Logan Paulsen is a high-effort player short on skill. Converted wide receiver Niles Paul is a situational tight end only. Chris Cooley is a free agent, and he may begin his broadcasting career as soon as this offseason.
    EDIT:

    For those wanting to know:

    1. San Fran
    2. Denver
    3. Green Bay
    4. New England
    5. Seattle
    6. New York Giants
    7. Houston
    8. Atlanta
    9. Baltimore
    10. Pittsburgh
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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    It has to do with pushing off the problems to future years.

    We're not trying to make a dozen signings here. We're trying to make one or two impact signings and role players... then we'll sign draft picks. I don't believe that's going to take moving a bunch of mountains. If we needed seven or eight players, then yes. One or two and then making room for signing draft picks? That's child's play.
    Once again, we start off over the cap and we have our own FAs (Fred Davis, Kory Lichtensteiger, Rob Jackson, Lorenzo Alexander, Tyler Polumbus and others) as well as RFAs to tender and draft picks to sign.

    So why don't you tell us where that cap space is coming from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus T Firefly View Post
    Once again, we start off over the cap and we have our own FAs (Fred Davis, Kory Lichtensteiger, Rob Jackson, Lorenzo Alexander, Tyler Polumbus and others) as well as RFAs to tender and draft picks to sign.

    So why don't you tell us where that cap space is coming from?


    Just kidding. My bad. I think I was mis-reading/misunderstanding everything we've been talking about. You're right.
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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    OK, DC9. Understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus T Firefly View Post
    So why don't you tell us where that cap space is coming from?
    2013 salaries per warpath ;

    DeAngelo Hall $7.5m
    Pierre Garcon $5,6m
    London Fletcher $5.5m
    Trent Williams $5.0m
    Santana Moss $4.1m
    Barry Cofield $4.0m
    Josh Wilson $3.9m
    Stephen Bowen $3.9m
    Josh Morgan $3.8m
    Adam Carriker $3.7m
    Jammal Brown $3.5m
    Chris Chester $3.0m
    Brian Orakpo $2.8m
    Brandon Meriweather $2.4m

    Thats about $60m in salary costs that can be redistributed / saved via cutting players / restructuring existing contracts or extending contracts.

    That won't create an extact equal cap saving due to dead cap money on player cuts, but there is upwards of ~$20m in cap space that could be created in 2013, imo

    Its a shame that some of this will smack of the Vinny era, but needs must due to the ~$18m cap reduction.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    Quote Originally Posted by UK SKINS FAN '74 View Post
    2013 salaries per warpath ;

    .............
    If you followed the conversation, I was saying we are surely going to have to redo some contracts. People seemed to dispute this, so I was asking how that's going to be possible. So you're really not answering the question I asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rufus T Firefly View Post
    If you followed the conversation, I was saying we are surely going to have to redo some contracts. People seemed to dispute this, so I was asking how that's going to be possible. So you're really not answering the question I asked.
    I did. I was adding further detail to your post #1238.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    Titus Young released by Lions. I also saw Ryan Broyles had been released but havent seen it listed anywhere else so I'm not sure of that is still accurate.

    Any interest in either? I'd be much more interested in Broyles since Young seems to not have his head screwed on correctly.

    Then again they seem to run a pretty loose ship in Detroit so maybe a change of scenery and some Shanahan RG3 structure would be good for Young.
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    Broyles has not been released.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    Quote Originally Posted by UK SKINS FAN '74 View Post
    I did. I was adding further detail to your post #1238.

    OK.

    There is plenty of room to do this. Again, I just hope we clear out some payers first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConnSKINS26 View Post
    Broyles has not been released.
    Nor will he be.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsinparadise View Post
    from ll56 on twitter

    HTTR24-7.com ‏@HTTR24_7 The surprising tone of the offseason will be the #Redskins adding weapons to the offense vs loading up on D.
    Will be? In FA or in the draft? With an early draft pick or a late pick?
    I don't understand what news that tweet tells us that wasn't already apparent. *shrugs*

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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    Will be? In FA or in the draft? With an early draft pick or a late pick?
    I don't understand what news that tweet tells us that wasn't already apparent. *shrugs*
    Yeah, I guess it's all in how he defines "tone". I'm thinking he means "resources" and, in that case, that would be surprising to many here at least. He also pluralized "weapons", so that'd explain it more.

    I think most ESers are assuming we're going to go hard at DB in Free Agency as well as using our early picks on either a Safety or Corner. And, if not that, at Right Tackle. So, I guess what that tweet is saying is that it may come as a surprise (again, to many here) that we will be targeting some specific weapons on offense either at RB, WR and/or TE instead and only using a select few resources on D.

    I could easily see a lot of ES posters getting real angry if we only end up bringing in some later round talent at DB.

    That's what I got from the tweet at least, but who knows.
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