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    Default Re: The Official 2013 Washington Redskins FA Database (Check OP for updates): Targets, Rumors (Fletcher leans towards retirement), Signings, and Coaching. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE P. Merling, R. Brace; (per 980: J. Brown's contract void on 8 F

    Quote Originally Posted by DogofWar1 View Post
    I have no idea how retiring works in terms of cap. I would assume, but am not sure, that the contract would simply void, and he wouldn't count anything against the cap, even with guaranteed money left.
    A player retiring is treated just the same as a player being released from a cap perspective. With London there would be a $2.8M dead cap hit and I think we would save $3.4M.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    You are right about the number of years.

    That last part, I think the players union would have a field day with. Sure, the Pats and Brady get away with that, but not us.
    Mara would hit us with another "Spirit of the cap" bull**** penalty
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    Default Re: The Official 2013 Washington Redskins FA Database (Check OP for updates): Targets, Rumors (Fletcher leans towards retirement), Signings, and Coaching. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE P. Merling, R. Brace; (per 980: J. Brown's contract void on 8 F

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman21ST View Post
    Mara would hit us with another "Spirit of the cap" bull**** penalty
    I think D. Smith would get in on it just for ****s and giggles too. With the full blessing of the competition committee, too.

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    Jermichael Finley - TE - Packers
    "Multiple sources connected to the team" tell the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that they would be "surprised" if Jermichael Finley isn't back with the Packers in 2013.
    Finley's future in Green Bay has been swirling in the wind all offseason. Once the season ended, coach Mike McCarthy praised his tight end for his play after the bye week, but recently the organization has been "torn" on the matter while Finley has said he's not willing to take a pay cut. We'll know his immediate future by March 27, when a $3 million roster bonus is due.

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    jsteelz just tweeted that we are $2.9 mil under.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    jsteelz just tweeted that we are $2.9 mil under.
    Did he give an explanation how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinC View Post
    A player retiring is treated just the same as a player being released from a cap perspective. With London there would be a $2.8M dead cap hit and I think we would save $3.4M.
    Not exactly, when a player retires, the team does not have to release the player at that time. They can put the player on the reserved/retired list for at least 1 year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman21ST View Post
    Did he give an explanation how?
    he said "don't ask me how." lol. And followed it with a "news is coming." If you can go post the tweet for me I can move it. I can't copy tweets on this laptop.

    Cap relief?

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    @TK just posted "shhhhhhh on the thing we talked about earlier"
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    Default Re: The Official 2013 Washington Redskins FA Database (Check OP for updates): Targets, Rumors (Fletcher leans towards retirement), Signings, and Coaching. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE P. Merling, R. Brace; (per 980: J. Brown's contract void on 8 F

    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    he said "don't ask me how." lol. And followed it with a "news is coming." If you can go post the tweet for me I can move it. I can't copy tweets on this laptop.

    Cap relief?
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    slow news but, please dont ask how but the NFL shows Skins 2.9 under the cap, RFA will eat that up though, dont worry skins news coming !!

    TK ‏@TKextremeskins
    @JsteelznSkins Shhh on that thing we talked about earlier
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    Default Re: The Official 2013 Washington Redskins FA Database (Check OP for updates): Targets, Rumors (Fletcher leans towards retirement), Signings, and Coaching. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE P. Merling, R. Brace; (per 980: J. Brown's contract void on 8 F

    that'd be about 7 mil out of nowhere unless we've restructured/someone retired/we cut someone/we got cap relief.

    Let me find out... I will drive to my Cowboy fan uncles house tomorrow before the snow just to point in his face and laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman21ST View Post
    Home of Jsteelz ‏@JsteelznSkins
    slow news but, please dont ask how but the NFL shows Skins 2.9 under the cap, RFA will eat that up though, dont worry skins news coming !!

    TK ‏@TKextremeskins
    @JsteelznSkins Shhh on that thing we talked about earlier
    Thanks, Hitman. I'll add these to the OP. Sumthins' cookin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman21ST View Post
    Home of Jsteelz ‏@JsteelznSkins
    slow news but, please dont ask how but the NFL shows Skins 2.9 under the cap, RFA will eat that up though, dont worry skins news coming !!

    TK ‏@TKextremeskins
    @JsteelznSkins Shhh on that thing we talked about earlier
    Sounds like some messing around with us to me

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    Default Re: The Official 2013 Washington Redskins FA Database (Check OP for updates): Targets, Rumors (Fletcher leans towards retirement), Signings, and Coaching. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE P. Merling, R. Brace; (per 980: J. Brown's contract void on 8 F

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman21ST View Post
    Home of Jsteelz ‏@JsteelznSkins
    slow news but, please dont ask how but the NFL shows Skins 2.9 under the cap, RFA will eat that up though, dont worry skins news coming !!

    TK ‏@TKextremeskins
    @JsteelznSkins Shhh on that thing we talked about earlier
    *School girl grin*
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    Default Re: The Official 2013 Washington Redskins FA Database (Check OP for updates): Targets, Rumors (Fletcher leans towards retirement), Signings, and Coaching. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE P. Merling, R. Brace; (per 980: J. Brown's contract void on 8 F

    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Tater View Post
    Not exactly, when a player retires, the team does not have to release the player at that time. They can put the player on the reserved/retired list for at least 1 year.
    Maybe but the player still comes off the books if he retires before June 1 and any dead cap is assessed. If he retires after June 1 the dead cap hit comes off next years cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skins4Life6388 View Post
    Sounds like some messing around with us to me
    this time of year? That's sac-relig...

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    @jsteelznskins
    Fred Davis looing at 1 year, 2 Million do we give it to him??
    hmmm Phillips been getting some watching 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
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    Fred Davis looing at 1 year, 2 Million do we give it to him??
    hmmm Phillips been getting some watching 2
    FREDDY D for those numbers? If that's truly what he's looking for that's a complete steal. Of course you give it to him. I mean, I would push for 2-3 years but it's obvious if he wants that contract he wants a year to prove himself then sign a deal he's earned. Hell yes I would not even hesitate to sign him for 1 year/$2 million. Is there anyone on here that would say no to that?

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    Kenny Phillips?

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    Default Re: The Official 2013 Washington Redskins FA Database (Check OP for updates): Targets, Rumors (Fletcher leans towards retirement), Signings, and Coaching. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE P. Merling, R. Brace; (per 980: J. Brown's contract void on 8 F

    Quote Originally Posted by moondog View Post
    FREDDY D for those numbers? If that's truly what he's looking for that's a complete steal. Of course you give it to him. I mean, I would push for 2-3 years but it's obvious if he wants that contract he wants a year to prove himself then sign a deal he's earned. Hell yes I would not even hesitate to sign him for 1 year/$2 million. Is there anyone on here that would say no to that?
    Right? I'd love it personally and that's about what I would pay him. I said I would start at $2.5 and go no higher than $4. So fair is fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jivelikenice View Post
    Kenny Phillips?
    Subtorfuge? I don't know man. He would be a major upgrade, but his health issues scare the **** out of me.

    That would garuntee Ryan Swope in round two though.
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