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Thread: 2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

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    Default Re: 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching (Danny Smith is w/ Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Merling signed!; (J. Brown's contract voids on 8 Feb 13, will be a FA)

    Quote Originally Posted by DogofWar1 View Post
    Yes, but the issue here is with the rule of 51. Brown would be counted in that 51 most expensive contracts during the offseason. I may be wrong, but my understanding was that while we can be over the cap in the offseason, we cannot be over the cap with respect to our 51 highest contracts. In that way, Jammal Brown would hinder us from the opening of free agency until we cut him in June. It's probably coming down to what other moves we are making and if we need that cap space now or can wait until June.
    Also, anyone correct me if I am wrong here, but in the previous CBA you could cut a vet before June 1st but designate that vet as a June 1st cut (so the said vet has more time to find a team before off season activities start with the new team). Not sure if this rule is still in play with the new CBA but I would think Brown would be an ideal candidate for this type of cut. That way the Redskins seem cool to the union becuase they have allowed Brown to hopefully find a new team before any off season activities have started. So if anyone knows if this rule still exists please chime in.
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    Default Re: 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching (Danny Smith is w/ Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Merling signed!; (J. Brown's contract voids on 8 Feb 13, will be a FA)

    Quote Originally Posted by Warpath11 View Post
    Also, anyone correct me if I am wrong here, but in the previous CBA you could cut a vet before June 1st but designate that vet as a June 1st cut (so the said vet has more time to find a team before off season activities start with the new team). Not sure if this rule is still in play with the new CBA but I would think Brown would be an ideal candidate for this type of cut. That way the Redskins seem cool to the union becuase they have allowed Brown to hopefully find a new team before any off season activities have started. So if anyone knows if this rule still exists please chime in.
    Just one with a June 1st designation. But I'm not sure when that would come into affect. The new league year maybe? (12 March)
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    Default Re: 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching (Danny Smith is w/ Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Merling signed!; (J. Brown's contract voids on 8 Feb 13, will be a FA)

    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    Just one with a June 1st designation. But I'm not sure when that would come into affect. The new league year maybe? (12 March)
    I would think it would be the new year but you get to hit Free Agency with Browns smaller cap hit on the books for 2013. I would cut Brown on March 12th and designate him as a June 1st cut so to only be out $1.1 mil against the cap for 2013 the rest spills into the penalty-free 2014.
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    Default Re: 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching (Danny Smith is w/ Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Merling signed!; (J. Brown's contract voids on 8 Feb 13, will be a FA)

    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    Roy Helu was still not healthy at the end of this past season per Mike Jones. His feet were still bothering him.
    Maybe Helu should start wearing shoes. http://blog.redskins.com/2012/04/30/...ds-film-study/
    Jim Haslett is a horrible coach.

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    Ricky Jean-Francois needs to join this team... We could have Barry Cofield doing his sack dance, while RJF is doing this...



    ---------- Post added February-7th-2013 at 02:12 PM ----------

    In regards to contracts for free agents... I will try and add some thoughts to this...

    If Jammal Brown's contract is 'voided' tomorrow, he will officially be an unrestricted free agent. HOWEVER, this is separate from going on the books as a 'release.'

    This means that he can not sign a contract with another team until the new league year of March 12.

    If he were 'released' he could be picked up immediately from another team.

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    Bart Scott - LB - Jets The Jets can clear $27.7 million in cap space by releasing ILB Bart Scott, OLB Calvin Pace and OT Jason Smith.
    Beat writer Manish Mehta considers it a matter of "when," not if, they make the moves. This is surely part of the salary-cap masterplan deposed GM Mike Tannenbaum has been referring to in interviews. Mehta expects 2012 third-rounder Demario Davis to take Scott's place in the starting lineup. S Eric Smith is also a candidate for release.

    I'd take a flier on Jason Smith in a heartbeat... Still young, but has not yet lived up to his potential. 2nd overall pick in 2009 draft.

    ---------- Post added February-7th-2013 at 02:26 PM ----------

    Didn't see this posted yet. Rotoworld's Team Needs and Roster Rankings:

    11. Washington Redskins

    OL: Left tackle Trent Williams, center Will Montgomery, and right guard Chris Chester are all signed long term and make up the core of Washington's zone-blocking offensive line. The unit's two 2012 weak links -- left guard Kory Lichtensteiger and right tackle Tyler Polumbus -- are both headed for free agency. Last year's third-rounder Josh LeRibeus might be able to handle left guard moving forward, but Washington does not have a viable in-house right tackle replacement.

    CB: DeAngelo Hall's openness to a contract restructure helps matters, but there is next to no depth behind him and fellow starter Josh Wilson. Nickel back Cedric Griffin's contract is up, and seventh-rounder Richard Crawford was the only other Washington corner to play significant 2012 snaps. The Redskins shouldn't feel truly comfortable at any of their four defensive back positions.

    LB: Brian Orakpo's return helps this unit on paper, but it's fair to wonder if he's become unreliable physically. Orakpo has twice torn his left pectoral muscle and didn't recover fully the first time. Ryan Kerrigan remains a stud bookend, but 2012 Orakpo replacement Rob Jackson's contract is up and there is no remaining depth. Washington needs to continue to prioritize pass rushers.

    TE: The Redskins can make this position better if free agent Fred Davis is re-signed and recovers smoothly from Achilles' surgery, but it's a concern at the moment. Logan Paulsen is a high-effort player short on skill. Converted wide receiver Niles Paul is a situational tight end only. Chris Cooley is a free agent, and he may begin his broadcasting career as soon as this offseason.
    http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...-rankings?pg=2

    ---------- Post added February-7th-2013 at 02:48 PM ----------

    Some decent news... This guy still is an adequate cover corner in the league and starter. At 29 years old, former first rounder in 04... I'd see what he's willing to take.

    Chris Gamble - DB - Panthers The Charlotte Observer expects the Panthers to release LCB Chris Gamble.

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    Mine as well get him off the books now, rather restructure another player to free up the $2.2 million difference, instead of paying Brown two years after he's gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemperFi Skins View Post

    49ers | Randy Moss not expected to return

    San Francisco 49ers impending free-agent WR Randy Moss likely will not re-sign with team this offseason because he did not like his role during the season and likely would not receive a bigger role if he returned. Moss has said he would like another season in the NFL.[COLOR="Gold"]
    I find it hard to believe that Randy Moss still can't get behind 90% of the DBs in the league. Even as a #3 WR, he should be like Santana was here and have like 7-10 TDs on 30-40 catches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcoholic Zebra View Post
    Kevin? (Mike Jones meant Kyle?) And I agree, we need some more speed. Backside defenders can't key in on RG3 as much if they're heavily worried about speed breaking one from a catch in the flats.

    Roy Helu. Ugh. That's really not what I wanted to hear.
    What in the world kinda foot injury did Helu have again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justice98 View Post
    I find it hard to believe that Randy Moss still can't get behind 90% of the DBs in the league. Even as a #3 WR, he should be like Santana was here and have like 7-10 TDs on 30-40 catches.
    the 49ers seemed to treat moss like brandon jacobs. i mean 3 straight passes to crabtree at the end of the game and he doesnt catch any of them. why not throw some moss' way? i remember one play distinctly where moss was wide open but kaep threw to vernon davis instead. even the announcers said moss would of had a catch and easy td.

    im not saying i want him on our team, but i just think he wasn't used properly
    **** it, I'm going deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justice98 View Post
    What in the world kinda foot injury did Helu have again?
    Man... that seems so long ago. I want to say it was an achilles though? It was similar to Landry if memory serves. Could be wrong.
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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching News (Danny Smith signed by Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Phillip Merling signed!

    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    Situation is always a part of a process. However, I disagree with the last line:

    Just because he's been clean doesn't mean he'll remain clean. Therefore, Jackson, even if skillwise better than other options, may not be a better choice as he may not be around.
    That's true, and I agree with you for the most part. He's a big enough risk that we shouldn't rely on him at all for anything. We should consider him making the team simply a nice surprise and better depth for us.

    But, with that said, Mike did sound like he really trusted the kid and felt that he was undeserving of the suspension when it was enacted. I remember Mike stating how much of a "good kid" Tanard is like ten times in the press conference following the suspension, lol. So maybe that part of your issue isn't really one with the FO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumplestilskin View Post
    Why is nobody considering Pat Chung?He is not even on the OP list? Is he not a FA? He has had some injury issues the past few years but he is a playmaker and has ability to play both safety positions. He is young and hits HARD!
    I mentioned him myself just two days ago when quoting the list from Bill Pollian DogofWar posted. But, yeah, Chung and/or Lynch would be the two guys I'd go after in FA. Nabbing just one of them would be a huge upgrade for our defense.
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    "I knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. One thing I told Dan Snyder was: ‘If you don't plan on me being here for five years to do this the right way, then you shouldn't hire Mike Shanahan. But I'm going to do it the right way... But if you're going to ask me to take shortcuts, I'm not going to take shortcuts. I'm going to do it the right way.' And he said he would. And when we do have this thing turned around, people will see it, and say, ‘Oh my God, that's the way you do it.' "

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    Brian Orakpo - LB - Redskins CBS' Jason La Canfora expects the Redskins to make "every effort" to sign OLB Brian Orakpo to a long-term extension this offseason.
    Orakpo is entering the final year of his rookie contract, but is coming off his second pectoral tear in as many seasons. Orakpo's production — 29.5 sacks in 49 career games — warrants an extension, but his health could inspire the Redskins to roll the dice and put off long-term talks for another year. Orakpo's sub-$4 million cap number could be another reason the cap-strapped Redskins delay talks. Orakpo has reason to wait, as well, as any extension agreed to this offseason would surely be of the "team friendly" variety. The Redskins could always use the franchise tag on Orakpo if they fail to lock him up and he returns to form in 2013.

    Ed Reed - DB - Ravens GM Ozzie Newsome is optimistic the Ravens will re-sign free agent Ed Reed.
    "I think he realizes there may be some other options out there, but I think if you watched him, if you watched his body language over the course of the last eight to 10 days that he loves being here in Baltimore," Newsome said Thursday. "And I think we can use that to help make that relationship last a little bit longer." Newsome hinted the franchise tag will not be an option for Reed, meaning any deal would likely be a 2-3 year pact. There's a real chance Reed leaves, but it's far from a certainty.

    Shaun Rogers - DL - Giants Giants re-signed DT Shaun Rogers.
    Details of the contract are unavailable, but it's likely a one-year deal with no guaranteed money. Rogers, who's a month shy of his 34th birthday, missed all of 2012 with a blood clot in his leg. The three-time Pro Bowler has made just five starts since the end of the 2009 season, and is nothing more than a depth signing for a team that released Chris Canty on Wednesday.

    Jets | Could use a tag on Dustin Keller
    The New York Jets could consider using their franchise tag or transition tag on impending free-agent TE Dustin Keller this offseason.

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    Default Re: 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, and Coaching (Danny Smith is w/ Steelers). OP will be updated. Signed: Futures list on OP; DE Merling signed!; (J. Brown's contract voids on 8 Feb 13, will be a FA)

    Quote Originally Posted by justice98 View Post
    I find it hard to believe that Randy Moss still can't get behind 90% of the DBs in the league. Even as a #3 WR, he should be like Santana was here and have like 7-10 TDs on 30-40 catches.
    Sorry, but Moss couldn't even stop himself from taking plays off in the SB. I hate the guy with a passion, so I watched him frequently. Several times he ran about three steps, at a jogging pace, when he knew the ball wasn't coming to him. He also refused to try for one pass that was intercepted, if he'd put a hand even close to the ball (which wouldn't even have required full extension of the elbow) he would have been able to knock the pass down at least.

    This guy is a waste of a roster space because you can only use him on passes that are going to him. When was the last time he WAS happy in an offense? Maybe the reason he believes he's misused is because he's washed up and delusional, believing he's still #1 material.

    If you can't put forth effort in the SB, then when can you? It was a pathetic performance, and the reason he didn't get passes thrown to him is because he's not dependable. A guy that's half of what he used to be, still a prima donna, and doesn't put for effort in the biggest game of his life? Sounds like a grade A deuche bag, not worth the headache. If the guys who barely lost the SB think they're better off without him, that says a lot, IMO.

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    I feel our offense is too fast paced for R. Moss anyway... He takes far too long to develop his routes and he wouldn't last in this offense. I also noted his laziness in the Super Bowl. There's a lot better out there anyway.

    R. Moss will be a Patriot for his final year, book it.

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    How is Hightower doing with his injury?

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    I want us to keep adding DL depth.

    I would us to work on bringing Glenn Dorsey and Tyson Jackson who are both expected to be releases by the Chiefs. Although both have been a bust/disappointment but there are reasons why they were selected so high in the draft.

    If we can get them back on track like we did with Carriker then our DL would be set with very good depth.

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