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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    Nevermind, I found it, thanks.

    EDIT: LOL, you are too fast brother.

    According to Yahoo Sports, "those close" to Robert Griffin III believe the Redskins and others around Griffin are placing "undue pressure" on RG3 to "return too quickly" from his ACL and LCL tears.
    They believe Griffin is at risk of reinjury. Redskins team Dr. James Andrews has publicly deemed RG3 "way ahead of schedule," and Griffin is starring in an Adidas ad campaign entitled "All in for Week 1." Said one source, "It's been like six weeks; what are we doing this for? He's not running yet. (Playing in Week 1) is ridiculous to talk about." Added another person close to Griffin, "I don't understand why we're talking about how close he is to playing or not right now. Let him just get better; there's a long way to go." It's an obvious fantasy situation to track.
    Are "those close to him" doctors? Because if not, what the hell do they know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxinFish29 View Post
    So you have a Dr. who wants to attract more big name clients and a clothin company who wants to sell more merchandise and somehow the "Redskins" are rushing him back. Yeah, ok.
    Dr. Andrews doesn't need to do anything to attract more clients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s2thalayer View Post
    Are "those close to him" doctors? Because if not, what the hell do they know?
    It would also imply the Redskins are in cahoots with Adidas making that commercial, which is beyond silly. Love RG III but most evidence points to him, not the Redskins, being the issue as to playing in spite of injuries. The cameras in Turning Point captured RG III telling Trent Williams in the Seattle game not to tell the Redskins that he aggravated the injury. He sort of complained on twitter and in the post game press conference about not starting against the Browns saying he was fine and it wasn't his decision not to play. In the Seattle game he directly lobbied Shanny to stay in the game. When he got the concussion against Atlanta, he told Shanny he's all right but Shanny pulled him out of the game anyway.

    But somehow its poor RG III, being rushed and coerced on the field by mean Shanny? Seems ludicrous. But its a great story for the Shanny haters so why not push it, speaking of which I bet Lavar and Dukes cover this one today and treat it like gospel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s2thalayer View Post
    Are "those close to him" doctors? Because if not, what the hell do they know?
    Also how do people 'close' to RGIII differ from "those around him"

    Of all the things we have to worry about with RGIIIs recovery the team rushing him back before he is ready is a long way down the list in my opinion. No way we take any risks with the guy who are building the franchise around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post
    Dr. Andrews doesn't need to do anything to attract more clients.
    You can say that again! That guys appointment book must be unreal - not to mention his bank balance.

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    I think the whole RG3 blame game is silly.

    Here's the answer to the whole thing:

    The Redskins don't play him until he's cleared and he CLEARLY looks like himself. Until that point, Cousins gets the nod. It's best for business, it's best for future proposals (whether we accept them for Cousins or not is irrelevent, but if he plays well in Griff's stead and we find another quality backup, it's an option that can be explored), and it's best for Griffin's future both individually and for the Redskins chances at keeping him around.

    If Griffin complains, so what? You're our quarterback. Our franchise. The guy we sold the farm for. If you think for one second that this team is going to let you go out there and reinjure it because you weren't ready, you need to be drug tested.

    For the record, I don't think he complains too loudly if that occurs. He sure as hell won't like it, but that's because he's a competitor. He's got a good head on his shoulders and a good attitude. He's a team player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wit33 View Post
    What in your opinion is the right price??
    Somewhere between $2-3.5 mil for one year is more than fair. We don't even know if he is going to be ready for the season or be able to play at all at this point. The franchise tag is out of the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s2thalayer View Post
    Are "those close to him" doctors? Because if not, what the hell do they know?
    Who knows. The only one I'm honestly worrying about rushing Robert is Robert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxinFish29 View Post
    So you have a Dr. who wants to attract more big name clients and a clothin company who wants to sell more merchandise and somehow the "Redskins" are rushing him back. Yeah, ok.
    I do think the Redskins are making it a point to put out as much good news as possible with the ticket price increase. As far as pushing him to come back, that's a whole other deal and I think it couldn't be further from the truth in regards to the Redskins franchise.

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    One AFC executive estimated that free agent Greg Jennings would command only $7-9 million per year on the open market.
    A source told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that retaining Jennings is a "50-50" proposition for the Packers, and it'd cost them a $10-plus million tag. "I can’t see a team wanting to marry itself to him long-term," the personnel man said. "Solid-starter type. I don’t see him in that bona-fide feature role."

    The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports the Packers' organization is "torn" on whether to retain Jermichael Finley for 2013.
    The coaching staff and GM Ted Thompson favor keeping Finley, while "members of the personnel department" want him released. If the Packers did cut Finley, they could retain free agent Greg Jennings via the franchise tag. Meanwhile, extensions for Aaron Rodgers and Clay Matthews loom. Finley's 2013 cap number ($8.75 million) is slated to rank second to only Rodgers ($9.75 million) on the team.

    Bengals.com concedes the team will "probably" franchise tag free agent RE Michael Johnson if the sides can't strike a long-term deal before March 4.
    As of the middle of last week, there was "not much traction" in long-term negotiations. Cincinnati's two critical free agents are Johnson and RT Andre Smith. In an ideal world, they'd re-sign Smith and affix the tag to Johnson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2cents View Post
    Dr. Andrews doesn't need to do anything to attract more clients.
    While I agree with that, you are telling me that he went public with, "RGIII is ahead of schedule," out of the goodness of his heart? Just to let people know how superior Robert is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxinFish29 View Post
    While I agree with that, you are telling me that he went public with, "RGIII is ahead of schedule," out of the goodness of his heart? Just to let people know how superior Robert is.
    He probably did it on behalf of the Redskins... who just raised ticket prices and more than likely are facing several season ticket holders that are on the fence. He doesn't strike me as a guy that goes out of his way to say these things unless he's asked to based on how he has handled himself in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    He probably did it on behalf of the Redskins... who just raised ticket prices and more than likely are facing several season ticket holders that are on the fence. He doesn't strike me as a guy that goes out of his way to say these things unless he's asked to based on how he has handled himself in the past.
    I can understand that but to say it doesn't benefit him in some way is crazy to me. Like you say, if he did it then he got something out of it. Although he doesn't NEED this to get more clients, it sure as hell doesn't hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxinFish29 View Post
    I can understand that but to say it doesn't benefit him in some way is crazy to me. Like you say, if he did it then he got something out of it. Although he doesn't NEED this to get more clients, it sure as hell doesn't hurt.
    It's the other way around... the Redskins get something out of it BECAUSE it's Dr. James Andrews saying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    It's the other way around... the Redskins get something out of it BECAUSE it's Dr. James Andrews saying it.
    I never said that wasn't the case, I agree it helped the Skins, ALSO.
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    Okay, moving on now...

    One more nugget about Greg Jennings:

    The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports Dolphins coach Joe Philbin is not a "huge fan" of free agent Greg Jennings as a player.
    Jennings has openly flirted with the Dolphins, but the interest apparently isn't mutual. That doesn't mean the Dolphins won't go over Philbin's head if they strike out on Mike Wallace and Dwayne Bowe, but it appears one of Jennings' most likely suitors won't be there to goose his market. According to an AFC personnel executive, Jennings would command only $7-9 million per year in free agency, and "has to be careful about pricing himself out of the market."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxinFish29 View Post
    I never said that wasn't the case, I agree it helped the Skins, ALSO.
    Did Bruce Allen come out and say it? Did Dan Snyder come out and say it? Did Tony Wylie come out and say it?

    No. DR. JAMES ANDREWS came out and said it because it carries weight. Andrews didn't have to say it because he knows 9 bad mother ****ers in this world and gets Xmas presents from all of them.

    It wasn't to benefit Andrews, it was to benefit the Redskins.

    Spoken word.

    I'm done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxinFish29 View Post
    While I agree with that, you are telling me that he went public with, "RGIII is ahead of schedule," out of the goodness of his heart? Just to let people know how superior Robert is.
    He probably said it because someone asked him about it. He also spoke recently about how well Marcus Lattimore was doing. I doubt he's going out of his way to talk about RGIII's injury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    Okay, moving on now...

    One more nugget about Greg Jennings:

    The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports Dolphins coach Joe Philbin is not a "huge fan" of free agent Greg Jennings as a player.
    Jennings has openly flirted with the Dolphins, but the interest apparently isn't mutual. That doesn't mean the Dolphins won't go over Philbin's head if they strike out on Mike Wallace and Dwayne Bowe, but it appears one of Jennings' most likely suitors won't be there to goose his market. According to an AFC personnel executive, Jennings would command only $7-9 million per year in free agency, and "has to be careful about pricing himself out of the market."

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    Did Bruce Allen come out and say it? Did Dan Snyder come out and say it? Did Tony Wylie come out and say it?

    No. DR. JAMES ANDREWS came out and said it because it carries weight. Andrews didn't have to say it because he knows 9 bad mother ****ers in this world and gets Xmas presents from all of them.

    It wasn't to benefit Andrews, it was to benefit the Redskins.

    Spoken word.

    I'm done.
    I completely understand that not everyone knows business or studies it in college but I'm not sure how you could say this does not benefit Dr. Andrews at all. You will see a couple times I mentioned that it does benefit the Redskins and this I'm sure was the main point but it ALSO benefits him. We can agree to disagree, that's fine...chill man, it's NOT a big deal.

    Back to what we are her for, what you've done a good job at keeping us up to date on...who is the next player to join our beloved franchise.

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    I wonder when we'll get word of a restructure for Hall. That would give some insight on the direction of the off-season, I think. One, I'd like to get a feel for how much we can free up and two, I think it takes a little pressure off the draft. If the team targets Toler ... do they really even think CB during the draft? I would imagine that Richard Crawford is pretty nice as the #4 guy ... and hopefully Minnefield can emerge and steal a roster spot. Of course, if the team avoids CB in free agency, I think they need to go CB at some point in the draft for no reason other than depth.

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