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    Quote Originally Posted by SonnyandSam View Post
    A few guys we need to resign:
    Baker

    Guys worth considering as backup to resign:
    Golston
    To me, this is where one of the most interesting battles of this next offseason will be.

    Chris Neild is coming back from IR... and he was a bulldog last season (2011). Baker emerged and shined in spot duty this year. Do you bring back Golston and let one of your "true" NT's go in Baker/Neild?

    We talk about it all the time, and Cofield has played much better at NT this season, but I still think he is more effective if you move him to DE and you'll essentially have 2 starting caliber lines:

    Line 1:
    DE Cofield
    NT Neild
    DE Carriker

    Line 1(a):
    DE Jenkins
    NT Baker
    DE Bowen

    That's just plain scary with Orakpo, Jackson, Kerrigan, and the rest of the LBs coming back healthy.

    ---------- Post added January-8th-2013 at 01:57 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by LetThePointsSoar View Post
    That just seems ridiculous to me when Seattle can win appeals to get players back in time to play games, and he won't even be able to back for the offseason workouts.
    Unfortunately that was a chain of custody issue. Basically, the League's specimen collecter botched the sample so it was legally insufficient. If the NFL suspended the Sherminator then he would've sewed and won big time. It's a shame.

    Don't worry though, our breaks are coming.

    ---------- Post added January-8th-2013 at 01:59 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by doghouse4x4 View Post
    Tanard can play, but the biggest issue, besides waiting for him to slip up, is he will miss the whole offseason.
    This has to be a top priority. Getting him eligible to play. I'm sure PD93 has done well with him this season. He's done well with Trent and Freddy D, no reason to think that Tanard couldn't turn it around with Daniels' helping if Tanard wanted to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonnyandSam View Post
    But then, Shanahan seldom looks for big name/high talent linemen. Most are high round rookies or UDFA.

    Sad reflection on our RT position, but 4 of the 8 worse rated free agent OT by Pro Football Focus, play for or played for the Redskins recently.
    I agree with this. I'd look for Compton to be the main competition at starting RT going into camp. Well probably him and a late round draft pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinsfan_1215 View Post
    Tanard? He was signed to a 1 year deal with nothing guaranteed because he has a substance problem. This was his chance to earn a paycheck and play well. He failed himself and his team by getting suspended. I don't want him back.
    We signed him knowing that he had an appeal pending. He's not done.

    ---------- Post added January-8th-2013 at 02:06 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Btubes18 View Post
    Anyway we can add a "Coaches" section to this thread or is that too much? Would be nice to keep track of the coaches who leave, are promoted, or are brought in.
    I thought about that and thought it was overkill. But since you mentioned it, yes, I'll add that to the OP!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post

    This has to be a top priority. Getting him eligible to play. I'm sure PD93 has done well with him this season. He's done well with Trent and Freddy D, no reason to think that Tanard couldn't turn it around with Daniels' helping if Tanard wanted to.
    Yep, and that is the crux of it. He has the talent, needs the will. I am not pessimistic, but not really optimistic either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    We signed him knowing that he had an appeal pending. He's not done.[COLOR="Gold"]
    Ah, I didn't realize that it was already in the works before we signed him. Ok then, hope he bounces back strong and gets his head on straight.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, Coaching News, and Cap Space Tracker. OP will be updated throughout FA period. Signed: D. Holland (futures)

    Santana Moss' base salary jumps from $2.65 million in 2012 to $4.15 million in 2013.
    Moss held up well in the slot, leading the team with eight touchdowns.
    He turns 34 in June, however, and his salary is prohibitive for a declining receiver who no longer makes plays after the catch. Moss will likely be asked to take a pay cut.


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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...res-contracts/

    Redskins sign five players to futures contracts
    Posted by Mike Jones on January 8, 2013 at 12:11 pm

    The Redskins have signed five of their practice squad players to futures contracts, according to the NFL’s transaction report.

    By doing so, Washington controls their rights through the offseason, and the players will be able to take part in OTAs.

    Signing those futures contracts were nose tackle Chigbo Anunoby, defensive lineman Dominique Hamilton, fullback Eric Kettani, cornerback Korey Lindsey and tight end DeAngelo Peterson.

    Last week the Redskins signed linebacker Ricky Elmore and safety Devin Holland to futures contracts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking Skins View Post
    I agree with this. I'd look for Compton to be the main competition at starting RT going into camp. Well probably him and a late round draft pick.
    Thinking about this and RGIII. I know our secondary sucks, but giving up a TD pass is not going to cripple Griffin. Giving up sacks will. If there's an OL who's better than any of our starters, except maybe Lichtensteiger, in round 2, esp. RT, take him. Yeah, i know we have last year's class to compete. If there's a 2nd rounder worth drafting because he's an immediate upgrade from our current starting line, then he's most like better than LeRibs, Gettis, or Compton. Let them compete.

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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings (when they come), and Cap Space Tracker. OP will be updated throughout FA period. Signed: D. Holland (futures)

    Quote Originally Posted by ZRagone View Post
    My sleeper pick as potential slightly lower priced option would be Kenny Phillips. I understand the guy has had some injury issues, but I think he makes a difference on that Giant's defense when he's been healthy and playing. He's still rather young and brings some good skill and big hitting to the secondary, though seems to have a better head on his shoulders for the latter part than Landry did. I also know he was a big Sean Taylor fan, so it'd be interesting to see if the thought of playing in the Redskins backfield would be attractive to him.

    Does anyone with access to PFF's advanced statistics know where he ranked while healthy?
    http://www.bigblueview.com/2013/1/2/...kenny-phillips

    Not PFF, but some interesting analysis in here.

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    Outside of the first round O-lineman rarely come in and start, they need time to develop. We have drafted a few projects over the last few years. Is there no feeling that we could potentially have a starting RT already on the team? Hurt, Willie Smith, Compton? If there is a starter in FA that we can sign, absolutely, I just dont want to overlook some potential "homegrown" talent.
    Most fans wish their team had the first pick in the draft each year. I would be happy with the 32nd.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GothSkinsFan View Post
    Thinking about this and RGIII. I know our secondary sucks, but giving up a TD pass is not going to cripple Griffin. Giving up sacks will. If there's an OL who's better than any of our starters, except maybe Lichtensteiger, in round 2, esp. RT, take him. Yeah, i know we have last year's class to compete. If there's a 2nd rounder worth drafting because he's an immediate upgrade from our current starting line, then he's most like better than LeRibs, Gettis, or Compton. Let them compete.
    I definitely agree - especially at T where you're dealing more with the speed rushers. Ideally, I'd want somebody who can play RT or LT and come in for Trent if he goes down. That can be valuable. But I don't really see Shanny doing it. That being said, he did spend a second on LeRibus last year, so its possible. Maybe it depends on the draft class and the free agent class. One thing I don't want to see is another guy like Mike Williams coming in for a workout.

    ---------- Post added January-8th-2013 at 02:31 PM ----------

    Also, with regard to the CB spots, I'd say that we've got some potential talent with Richard Crawford and Chase Minnifield. I know Chase was hurt last year and there's a question as to how he'll be when he gets back, but Richard showed some of his talents against Dallas and I was pulling for him to get more PT outside. Not saying we should ignore CBs but I think that it should be less of a priority than say DLine / pass rush help. I think that's how we're going to win games in 2012. I was saying this in the game day thread against seattle and most of our winning streak that we were improving on defense by blitzing and bringing pressure. If we can get more guys who can bring pressure without blitzing then it only improves our defense. What was killing us this year was when QBs had 5-10 seconds to find a WR and make a play.
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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, Coaching News, and Cap Space Tracker. OP will be updated. Signed: Futures: D. Holland, C. Anunoby, D. Hamilton, E. Kettani, K. Lindsey, D. Peterson

    Don't forget to add linebacker Ricky Elmore to the list of futures contract signing in post #112.
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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings, Coaching News, and Cap Space Tracker. OP will be updated. Signed: Futures: D. Holland, C. Anunoby, D. Hamilton, E. Kettani, K. Lindsey, D. Peterson

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallen5862 View Post
    don't forget to add linebacker Ricky Elmore to the list of futures contract signing in post #112.
    Thanks. I didn't see that. When did he sign?
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    Default Re: The Ultimate 2013 Washington Redskins Free Agency Database: Top Targets, Rumors, Signings (when they come), and Cap Space Tracker. OP will be updated throughout FA period.

    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    Don't worry though, our breaks are coming.[COLOR="Gold"]
    You got a link for that? I'm not so sure.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRagone View Post
    My sleeper pick as potential slightly lower priced option would be Kenny Phillips. I understand the guy has had some injury issues, but I think he makes a difference on that Giant's defense when he's been healthy and playing. He's still rather young and brings some good skill and big hitting to the secondary, though seems to have a better head on his shoulders for the latter part than Landry did. I also know he was a big Sean Taylor fan, so it'd be interesting to see if the thought of playing in the Redskins backfield would be attractive to him.
    I think the big thing for us is that he can come cheap with a (prove it) contract. He's an injury risk, but due to the Mara penalty, we don't have many options with our limited money. If he can stay healthy, our D gets a ton better. He directly fixes a huge portion of what our defense sucks at. Preventing big plays. He's not a big turnover guy, but he makes the defense far more consistent.

    Because of the Mara penalty, I'm actually fine rolling the dice with Kenny Phillips, Brandon Meriweather, and Tanard Jackson. That's a lot of upside for very cheap. Even if Phillips only plays half the season, that's still a monstrous upgrade for 8 games. I'd still like to draft a safety but the rewards far outweigh the risks here.

    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    Kenny Phillips
    Yup, that name stuck out like a sore thumb.

    Quote Originally Posted by jsharrin55 View Post
    http://www.bigblueview.com/2013/1/2/...kenny-phillips

    Not PFF, but some interesting analysis in here.
    That's still really good, they expand on a lot of issues that PFF can have. It helps puts things in perspective and goes over several variables. Thanks for the link.
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