2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

[DC9]

When I google his salary I am seeing $3.8 to $4.5 million for 2012. So just as a question what would be a reasonable price?

If we wanted it to work we could. The thing that you'd have to look at is how much of your resources do you want to dump into a guy who will be your 3rd down back and what other position of need are you taking away from. In this case, we could sign Bush, but we already have Morris, Royster, and hopefully Helu and maybe another draft pick. If we did that we would be sucking resources away from RT, FS, CB which are positions where we really need an upgrade.

So bottom line, he'd be a luxary and his cost likely wouldn't translate to his production. Now, if we get a late round scat back or a LaRod Stephens-Howling to come in here at half or less of what it would cost to bring in Bush, you would get similar production and more bang for you buck... also leaving more money to go after upgrading positions of need.

[SemperFi Skins]

Dashon Goldson - DB - 49ers Two sources tell the Sacramento Bee that the 49ers will not be using the franchise tag.
"You can't pay everybody, and you certainly can't pay everybody if you're overpaying others," GM Trent Baalke said at the Combine. The Bee calls it a very good guess that he was referring to free agent FS Dashon Goldson, a two-time Pro Bowler and first-team All-Pro selection last season. As the game's premier cover safety, he could very well command upwards of $8 million annually on the open market. Related: Delanie Walker
Source: Sacramento Bee Feb 27 - 11:09 AM

Alex Smith - QB - 49ers The Sacramento Bee hears that the Niners will likely be getting a fourth-round pick in the 2013 draft for Alex Smith.
Source: Sacramento Bee Feb 27 - 11:17 AM

Chiefs | Still interested in Branden Albert
The Kansas City Chiefs are still interested in retaining impending free-agent OT Branden Albert; however, the team could very well take Texas A&M OT Luke Joeckel with the No. 1 pick in the NFL Draft. The Chiefs could let Albert walk, draft Joeckel and use the money intended for Albert to help improve other areas.

[S.T.real,lights,out]

Can prob take Golsdon right off our list...no way we are coming up with that kind of money

[A_SKIN_OR_DIE]

If we wanted it to work we could. The thing that you'd have to look at is how much of your resources do you want to dump into a guy who will be your 3rd down back and what other position of need are you taking away from. In this case, we could sign Bush, but we already have Morris, Royster, and hopefully Helu and maybe another draft pick. If we did that we would be sucking resources away from RT, FS, CB which are positions where we really need an upgrade.

So bottom line, he'd be a luxary and his cost likely wouldn't translate to his production. Now, if we get a late round scat back or a LaRod Stephens-Howling to come in here at half or less of what it would cost to bring in Bush, you would get similar production and more bang for you buck... also leaving more money to go after upgrading positions of need.

I understand. I like Royster and Helu but someone has to go. We need another back productive like Morris. I know Shanny has his eye on someone. With holes to fill i would stay with what we have now. Draft needs.

[DogofWar1]

Can prob take Golsdon right off our list...no way we are coming up with that kind of money

I really hope he re-signs with the 49ers though. I really want us to get Cyprien in the 2nd, but there's a lot of teams in the late 1st who might be in the market for a FS. NE is eyeing Reed, Baltimore needs a replacement, and if Goldson leaves the 49ers and doesn't end up on one of those other two teams (almost certainly not Balt due to cap problems), then we could see Reid and Cyprien go off the board in real quick succession.

[Hitman21ST]

Per PFT:

Chiefs send 49ers a 2013 2nd rounder and 2014 2nd rounder (the wording was a "similar pick" in 2014, I'm just speculating) to the 49ers for Alex Smith.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...or-alex-smith/

I hope Smith does well in KC, but in a way, I hope he doesn't, just to give Reid a taste of his own medicine (paying a high price in a trade, only to have the guy he traded for fizzle out)

[DC9]

The 49ers and Chiefs have completed a trade for Alex Smith.
Four years after trading for the Patriots' backup quarterback, the Chiefs have swung a deal for the man who lost his job to Colin Kaepernick. New coach Andy Reid has paid a pretty penny for his starting quarterback as the Chiefs will reportedly send a second-round pick to the Niners in this April's draft and a conditional mid-round pick in the 2014 draft. It's the same kind of price that the Cardinals paid for Kevin Kolb in 2011 and the Chiefs paid for Matt Cassel in 2009. Smith is certainly an upgrade on Cassel, but has proven to be incapable of anything more than game managing for the Niners. Under Reid's pass-happy West Coast scheme, he'll be asked to do a lot more. The deal won't be official until the new league year opens on March 12.

^^^ All this means is that we could've gotten a 2 and a 3 for Cousins, minimum, lol. Not to derail the thread, just food for thought.

EDIT: And this will also change the draft board early in the second round. The 49ers will have two picks over three spots (31 and 33).

[thesubmittedone]

Quick question, I'm a bit confused about our salary cap situation right now. I'm assuming (and maybe wrongly so) that we're -$4.5 million INCLUDING the guys set to hit Free Agency on March 12. If that's the case, wouldn't it be by default on that day that we pretty much go under the cap even without any restructures? I know we've got like 20 guys set to be FAs and I know most of them are bubble players anyway that probably don't cost much on the books, but still, am I missing something cuz that seems to be completely overlooked?

[DC9]

Quick question, I'm a bit confused about our salary cap situation right now. I'm assuming (and maybe wrongly so) that we're -$4.5 million INCLUDING the guys set to hit Free Agency on March 12. If that's the case, wouldn't it be by default on that day that we pretty much go under the cap even without any restructures? I know we've got like 20 guys set to be FAs and I know most of them are bubble players anyway that probably don't cost much on the books, but still, am I missing something cuz that seems to be completely overlooked?

We are $4 mil and change over for 2013 based on what's committed right now. So the guys that are set to be FA aren't counted in that pot. Just the guys who are under contract for 2013.

We have to be under by 12 March when the 2013 league year starts.

[Hitman21ST]

^^^ All this means is that we could've gotten a 2 and a 3 for Cousins, minimum, lol. Not to derail the thread, just food for thought.

EDIT: And this will also change the draft board early in the second round. The 49ers will have two picks over three spots (31 and 33).

Could have, but there was no way we were trading Cousins; not with RG3's injury.

And it's speculated that the 49ers will be trading 31 and 33 to the Jets for Revis.

[DC9]

Could have, but there was no way we were trading Cousins; not with RG3's injury.

And it's speculated that the 49ers will be trading 31 and 33 to the Jets for Revis.

Wow... so Los hits the market?

[Hitman21ST]

Wow... so Los hits the market?

It's possible. I haven't heard anything past 31 and 33 for Revis. I could see Los possibly going to the Jets in that trade, if he's still under contract.

[DC9]

It's possible. I haven't heard anything past 31 and 33 for Revis. I could see Los possibly going to the Jets in that trade, if he's still under contract.

I saw something on it a while back (maybe a month ago) on roto. They said he may be a canidate for restrucutre... but he may be gone if they are going to absorb that Revis contract.

Not sure how I'd feel about him coming back here. I think I've moved on. But I always had a soft spot for Los... like rooting for your little brother to just learn how to ride a bike already, ya know? lol

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ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk
Josh Cribbs would take less money to stay in Cleveland. Just not a lot less money http://wp.me/p14QSB-7rve

[LaxinFish29]

Could have, but there was no way we were trading Cousins; not with RG3's injury.

And it's speculated that the 49ers will be trading 31 and 33 to the Jets for Revis.

That would also have a lot to do with why they wont be able to afford Goldson.

[DC9]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
A team that could roll dice RT @ClarkJudgeCBS: With Smith trade, 49ers have ammunition to take run at Darrelle Revis: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/cl...darrelle-revis …

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CBS' Clark Judge suggests the 49ers make a run at Darrelle Revis after reportedly acquiring the No. 34 pick in the Alex Smith trade.
Staggeringly, the 49ers now have five of the first 93 picks, and are expected to have 15 total once compensatory selections are doled out. The 49ers couldn't create roster spots for 15 picks if they tried, so a handful are likely to be shipped out of town. Judge says he spoke with a "couple" GMs at the Combine who "swore" they wouldn't offer the Jets more than a second-round pick for Revis, but with the No. 31 and 34 selections, the 49ers would probably think long and hard about including their first-rounder in a package for Revis.

The Miami Herald is "told" free agent Reggie Bush will likely have other suitors beyond the Lions.
The Dolphins are only interested in Bush at a discount, but it sounds like he could at least approach the $5 million he made last season on the open market. We doubt he gets it, but he won't have to take a hefty pay-cut if three or four teams are genuinely interested. Bush would be a highly-intriguing fit in an explosive Lions offense that nevertheless lacks playmakers at running back. According to beat writer Armando Salguero, Bush is open to playing in New York.

A source tells CSN New England that Brandon Lloyd is not in the Patriots' plans for 2013.
One year after signing a three-year, $12 million contract, Lloyd appears to be on the verge of getting cut. Per the report, he's not even listed on the organization's projected depth chart for next season. It's a surprise after Lloyd came on very strong late in the season, compiling 36 catches for 452 yards and two touchdowns over the final six games (including playoffs). CSN New England cites "an enigmatic personality, aversion to physical contact, inability to find a consistent niche in the offense and financial disposability" as reasons for the breakup. The Patriots will be in the market for an outside receiver even if they get free agent slot machine Wes Welker under contract.


Josh Morgan had ligaments in each of his hands repaired after the season.

Tack this issue on top of ongoing concerns surrounding Morgan's right leg issues. After appearing to lack burst last season, he had surgery to remove a plate and seven screws from his right ankle in January. Morgan may not be ready for OTAs.

JM 15 should be 100% next season.