2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

[bobbi3stix]

Oh god, Nnamdi Asamough is being released? Cue the SHOULD WE threads in 3,2,1,....

Seriously, I really hope some nitwit in here doesn't suggest we sign a 32 year old press CB, but you know someone will.

That's a bit uncalled for, don't you think? Especially considering we're all supposed to be fellow Skins fans and all...

[darrelgreenie]

Both of those statements are conjecture. Neither of us know if everyone was looking for a pass rusher or if Kerrigan was the BPA on the board.

I do however agree that pass rushers are at a premium. So are play makers. In the past two drafts we've seen teams move up for Julio Jones, Trent Richardson, and Justin Blackmon all in the top 6 picks.


4 of the next 6 picks after trading down were for pass rushers. It is very possible we were comfortable with multiple players (it was said we were high on Robert Quinn at the time), and felt some combination of players there were similar enough in talent/fit that we could add value while still addressing our primary goal.

I'm not exactly sure what you wish to quibble about. Naturally there will be times where a team need (pass rusher) matches up with a draft selection (Kerrigan).
But my point that FA is really the only place where a team can predetermine personnel decisions still stands. But, I'll add this caveat if you want to get into semmantics. 'Safely' predetermined. A team can want any number of things in the draft a QB, CB etc. but that doesn't mean the draft will play out in manner that will accomdate them. That is my point. FA is more static then the draft therefore its more possible to predetermine personnel decisions through FA. Follow? Its more likely to project finding a starting FS in FA then it is through the draft.

I don't want quibble over the rest of the stuff. I believe pass rushers are on every teams draft board because they're a premium position, if you think otherwise we can agree to disagree.
Most teams only draft a player if that player has the highest rating on their board, if they weren't the BPA on the team's board then a team wouldn't draft them. And neither here nor there bost most draftniks had Kerrigan rated right around where he was selected.

[SWFLSkins]

That's a bit uncalled for, don't you think? Especially considering we're all supposed to be fellow Skins fans and all...

I think pjfootballer is right, and uncalled for, NO. It is bound to happen. It should stay in this thread for discussion, but most likely someone will start a thread now or when he is actually released.

[bobbi3stix]

I think pjfootballer is right, and uncalled for, NO. It is bound to happen. It should stay in this thread for discussion, but most likely someone will start a thread now or when he is actually released.

Oh, okay. So namecalling for someone who has a difference of opinion. Just checking.

[darrelgreenie]

....Salary cap space being tight means if you sign a free agent with a reasonably high cap number on offense that limits what you can do signing players on defense and visa versa. Its has no impact on the draft of course. I agree with you though I dont think that tweet was saying anything really. We need to add talent on both sides of the ball were we can within the limits of cap situation.

C'mon bro you gonna cherry pick me like that? lol But, of course you're right FA is a zero sum game especially when you're cap tight.

This offseason/draft is gonna be critical to whether we take a step forward, backward or tread water.

[Forehead]

That's a bit uncalled for, don't you think? Especially considering we're all supposed to be fellow Skins fans and all...

Man, if you think "nitwit" is uncalled for or over the line, you must miss some of the more intense arguments that go on in this place

[MartinC]

C'mon bro you gonna cherry pick me like that?

It was the only bit of your post I had any question with

Agree on the importance of this offseason - we need to build on what we did last year and step forward not fall back into the pack. So much though revolves around RGIIIs rehab.

[bobbi3stix]

Man, if you think "nitwit" is uncalled for or over the line, you must miss some of the more intense arguments that go on in this place

The insulting in general over the notion someone would have a difference of opinion (conveniently over the internet) is uncalled for.

[SemperFi Skins]

Saints | Jermon Bushrod not expected to be priority

The New Orleans Saints are not expected to make re-signing impending free-agent OT Jermon Bushrod a priority this offseason. The team could make a lower offer to Bushrod and consider letting him go if he finds a bigger offer from another team.



Rams | May place tag on Danny Amendola

The St. Louis Rams may place the franchise tag on impending free-agent WR Danny Amendola if the two sides are not able to reach an agreement in the next few weeks.

[DC9]

Oh god, Nnamdi Asamough is being released? Cue the SHOULD WE threads in 3,2,1,....

Seriously, I really hope some nitwit in here doesn't suggest we sign a 32 year old press CB, but you know someone will.

I'd like to think we've learned as a team and a fanbase.

---------- Post added February-5th-2013 at 11:47 AM ----------

Saints | Jermon Bushrod not expected to be priority

The New Orleans Saints are not expected to make re-signing impending free-agent OT Jermon Bushrod a priority this offseason. The team could make a lower offer to Bushrod and consider letting him go if he finds a bigger offer from another team.

He better come home. King George, VA baby!

Rams | May place tag on Danny Amendola

The St. Louis Rams may place the franchise tag on impending free-agent WR Danny Amendola if the two sides are not able to reach an agreement in the next few weeks.

This would shock me. I truly feel that Sam Bradford has not had a truly viable offensive line (until this year) or a truly viable #1 receiver his whole time in the NFL... and then they are going to tag Amendola?

---------- Post added February-5th-2013 at 11:48 AM ----------

Saints | Jermon Bushrod not expected to be priority

The New Orleans Saints are not expected to make re-signing impending free-agent OT Jermon Bushrod a priority this offseason. The team could make a lower offer to Bushrod and consider letting him go if he finds a bigger offer from another team.

He better come home. King George, VA baby!

Rams | May place tag on Danny Amendola

The St. Louis Rams may place the franchise tag on impending free-agent WR Danny Amendola if the two sides are not able to reach an agreement in the next few weeks.

This would shock me. I truly feel that Sam Bradford has not had a truly viable offensive line (until this year) or a truly viable #1 receiver his whole time in the NFL... and then they are going to tag Amendola?

[rk3025]

Have heard rumors that Robinson is not capable of taking Fletcher's spot as this was tough injury?
We surprised BPA advocates by drafting Joshua LeRibeus for need.
Do we do that this year also?
Are there any FA available for our 3-4 defense?
Feel we would have had a great defense with Orakpo, Carriker,Meriweather,T Jackson,Minnifield,Bernstine,K Robinson and Neild last year.

[Momma There Goes That Man]

This would shock me. I truly feel that Sam Bradford has not had a truly viable offensive line (until this year) or a truly viable #1 receiver his whole time in the NFL... and then they are going to tag Amendola?

That's exactly the reason why they can't let Amendola get away because that kills Bradford again to lose his best weapon and also security blanket on offense. They have to keep him while they try to find better WRs for Bradford.

---------- Post added February-5th-2013 at 11:55 AM ----------

Saints | Jermon Bushrod not expected to be priority

The New Orleans Saints are not expected to make re-signing impending free-agent OT Jermon Bushrod a priority this offseason. The team could make a lower offer to Bushrod and consider letting him go if he finds a bigger offer from another team.

Anybody have an idea what his cap number is now and what he might be looking for in FA?

[thesubmittedone]

My guess is that we target defensive NEEDS in FA.

Draft will be a BPA situation with it slightly weighted towards positions of need that weren't addressed in FA, but not too weighted. Meaning, we'll take the best guy available unless we're set at the position. (Which, off the top of my head, looking at our FAs and team, I'd say QB is the position we're most set at when it comes to early round talent...)

This is my hope. I want to address our needs at DB and at Tackle in FA and then go into the draft with a BPA philosophy on all positions other than QB and specialists. I think, if that were to happen, we'd come out of the draft absolutely stacked at a lot of positions for the foreseeable future. The positions that we miss out on won't be in dire straits either, and we can address them via FA next offseason.

---------- Post added February-5th-2013 at 10:04 AM ----------

My guess is that we target defensive NEEDS in FA.

Draft will be a BPA situation with it slightly weighted towards positions of need that weren't addressed in FA, but not too weighted. Meaning, we'll take the best guy available unless we're set at the position. (Which, off the top of my head, looking at our FAs and team, I'd say QB is the position we're most set at when it comes to early round talent...)

I should've just read a few posts down, lol. Exactly what I was trying to say, with Tackle thrown in there when it comes to FA.

---------- Post added February-5th-2013 at 10:21 AM ----------

I would be stunned if we drafted a WR in the 2nd round unless it was clearly a BPA pick. Although its early in the process all the analysis I have read on this draft class says its deep on D Line. O'Line (especially guard) and D'Line are the positions that are deep - safety and running back are not. Its impossible to know what will be on the board when we pick but its at least likely that the best value will be at DLine or OLine and you can never have enough good players in those positions.

I'd expect to see us address safety in free agency.

If we were to draft a WR, TE or a RB in the 2nd round that means the guy we selected most likely had a first round grade on our board. Heck, I'd be willing to bet he had a high first round grade. "BPA" for every team is different and our scouts are going to weigh these players based on how they fit our schemes as well as how important or prioritized the position they play is to us. So, clearly, those three positions will probably have lower "weights" and if we select one of those positions early on, that means we think the guy is an absolute stud who is way better than anyone else on the board.

[darrelgreenie]

...Although its early in the process...

I think the SAF class is deep. Their might not be a Eric Berry or Earl Thomas but I think there are a number of players on Harrison Smiths level.

[skinsfan_1215]

I was ok with the Skins giving Titus Young a look before I read his HS coach's comments. Thought it could have been just a personality conflict with the coach (Schwartz is kinda known for that). But turns out he's a complete head case. No thanks, good luck on the Jets.