2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

[cphil006]

Nice pickup of Phillip merling. I remember the redskins targeting him in the draft but he went before they picked in second round and instead redskins drafted devin thomas.

[Rocky52Mc]

I really hope we sign woodhead an let helu or royster go let them battle to decide...woodhead would be perfect compliment to morris...

I really dislike Royster being a 3rd downer. Some of the blocks he let slide this year I could not. Also find him to be rather ineffective on majority of his runs. Helu is needed as change of pace. But they need to figure out their third down package and who will be blocking the QB out of the RB position.

I think Woodhead stays in NE.

[DogofWar1]

Hey guys, I tried putting this together.



FARTs, lol.

But, *ahem* in seriousness, I used the master list at rotoworld (http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...r-list-13?pg=2), got rid of the total scrubs and guys who would be 30+ as of August, then looked at injury data at http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...tion=OL&y=2013, and then checked number of starts at wikipedia. Some of the information may not be 100% accurate.

I realize Harris, Justice, Richardson, and Otah are probably not worth our time, but included them anyway, since they at least have some starter chops, even if they are not really good. Otah is special too, he's someone who, last I heard, is trying to get back into the game after being and injury liability and just plain bad for years. If he somehow does get back in football shape, he might be worth a quick peek (though nothing should be expected of it of course).
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Anyways, the three guys who stand out to me as potential targets are Baker, Smith, and Beatty. All three have had some issues in the past, but also have some talent. They also won't cost top dollar like Long, Albert, or Clady.

[NIKKI8]

It is early January right now so things are still very cloudy as far as player availability goes but I feel very sure that by the time free agency rolls around Ryan Clady will definetly not be leaving the Broncos (there is no way a team lets a franchise left tackle walk away for nothing), would the Redskins let Trent get away for nothing? No, and neither will the Broncos, so everyone might as well stop talking about him. I would love to have Jarius Byrd here at free safety like everybody else his is a playmaker and everything we need on defense right now but I also can't see why Buffalo wouldn't franchise him for 6 million a year. They drafted him and are bringing in an aggressive defensive coordinator, he isn't going anywhere. I think the Redskins will add some good players this off-season but there not going to get Clady or Byrd. I think there will be some good cap casualties in the next few months also from other teams.

[Cooleyfan1993]

He needs to take a big pay cut. No doubt he will. I love Moss and think if anyone deserves to be on this ride from the Gibbs II/Zorn era... he does.

yep. plus, hes the cowboys killer! we gotta have him here for atleast 2 more dallas games, maybe 4

[DogofWar1]

Another one for safeties:


The market actually doesn't look too terrible. Safeties aren't completely interchangeable, but they can usually be, so I figure almost any of these guys would be welcome. Again, age is as of August 31, 2013.

Everyone loves Byrd-man, obviously, and Goldson would be good too. I was not aware of how good Quin was, he's definitely someone we should pursue, if he escapes.

Chung is weird because the Pats mess around with injuries and reporting of them, he's listed as questionable a bunch on KFFL, and I know he sat out some of those games, but I'm not sure which.

To address what NIKKI8 said above about Clady, and FAs who are likely to be re-signed in general, while I understand that Clady, Long, Byrd, etc. have basically zero chance of coming here, I think they're still worth looking at, and discussing, so long as we don't get carried away. For example, Byrd is pretty much guaranteed to be franchised (Safety franchise tag is like 6.5M, a pretty low number for how good Byrd is), but he's still worth discussing I think. We just have to recognize that Byrd is probably not coming here.

[Tom10Y]

That UFA list is pretty terrible. If we didn't have the cap situation, I'd let all of 'em go except for Alexander and Rob Jackson.

I agree with you but I would add Cedric Griffin to my keep list. He was solid and reliable when he was playing.

[maskedsuperstar]

Sam Shields, William Moore and Andre Smith for me. I'm hoping the Packers let Shields walk without placing a tender on him...

Andre Smith fit the zone blocking scheme? This is what you have to think about. The Skins were #1 in rushing for a reason.

[maskedsuperstar]

That just seems ridiculous to me when Seattle can win appeals to get players back in time to play games, and he won't even be able to back for the offseason workouts.

Seattle can also win, when their WR doesn't actually catch the ball in the end zone.

[Son of Gadsden]

I really dislike Royster being a 3rd downer. Some of the blocks he let slide this year I could not. Also find him to be rather ineffective on majority of his runs. Helu is needed as change of pace. But they need to figure out their third down package and who will be blocking the QB out of the RB position.

I think Woodhead stays in NE.

I agree completely. Helu is an excellent change of pace back, and from what I've seen does the same exact thing as woodhead...but in my opinion, better and he is more explosive. Helu is a great 3rd down back because of his ability as a receiver. He makes a lot of great plays after receptions. But as far as using someone for short yardage, you're not going to get better than Morris as a battering ram.

Helu remains one of my favorite players, and when he gets off IR, he's going to be back to his ole explosive self. He'll be an excellent compliment to our offense.

[KDawg]

Andre Smith fit the zone blocking scheme? This is what you have to think about. The Skins were #1 in rushing for a reason.

Yes. He controls the LOS and does a good job of getting to the second level. The old thought process of "smaller, quicker" linemen being necessary to fit the ZBS is false. Quite simply, you need a guy who can control a man on the LOS, usually using angles, and a guy who can seamlessly get to the second level. Andre Smith can do both. He fits.

If you want to ask if his price tag justifies the fit he has, that's a whole new ballgame

[Monk4thaHALL]

This is the team list of FAs:

Free Agents - Washington Redskins

Name	            Pos.       Years	2012Team	2013Team	Rating	Snaps
Sav Rocca	    P	       6	WAS	        UFA	        +13.3	0
Darrel Young	    FB	       3	WAS	        RFA	        +9.3	335
Chris Baker	    DI	       3	WAS	        RFA	        +4.5	206
Rob Jackson	    ED	       3	WAS	        RFA	        +2.3	610
Fred Davis	    TE	       5	WAS  	        UFA	        +2.1	413
Nick Sundberg	    LS	       3	WAS	        RFA	         0.0	0
Bryan Kehl	    LB	       5	WAS	        UFA	         0.0	0
Jammal Brown	    OT	       8	WAS	        UFA*	         0.0	0
Rex Grossman	    QB	      10	WAS	        UFA	         0.0	0
Chris Cooley	    TE	       9	WAS	        UFA	        -0.6	92
Cedric Griffin	    CB	       7	WAS	        UFA	        -1.2	369
Logan Paulsen	    TE	       3	WAS  	        RFA	        -1.7	696
Brandon Banks	    WR	       3	WAS	        RFA	        -2.1	58
Madieu Williams	    S	       9	WAS	        UFA	        -2.6	1063
Kedric Golston	    DI	       7	WAS	        UFA	        -2.7	374
Jordan Black	    OT	       9	WAS	        UFA	        -3.5	108
Chris Wilson	    ED	       5	WAS	        UFA	        -4.4	100
Lorenzo Alexander   LB	       6	WAS	        UFA	        -5.8	308
Kory Lich.          G	       4	WAS	        UFA	        -6.4	1040
Tyler Polumbus	    OT	       5	WAS	        UFA	        -24.1	964

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...gton-redskins/
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A different look at the same team list of FAs

Washington Redskins

Pos 	Player 	        FA              Previous Team 	        Current Team
QB 	Rex Grossman 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
FB 	Darrel Young 	RFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
WR 	Brandon Banks 	RFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
TE 	Chris Cooley 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
TE 	Fred Davis 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
TE 	Logan Paulsen 	RFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
P 	Sav Rocca 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
OT 	Jordan Black 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
OT 	Tyler Polumbus 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
OG 	Kory Lich.  	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
OL 	Nick Sundberg 	RFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
DL 	Chris Baker 	RFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
DL 	Kentwan Balmer 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
DL 	Kedric Golston 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
LB 	Lorenzo Alex. 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
LB 	Robert Jackson 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
LB 	Chris Wilson 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
CB 	Cedric Griffin 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
SS 	Madieu Williams UFA             Washington Redskins 	Free Agent
FS 	Tanard Jackson 	UFA 	        Washington Redskins 	Free Agent


player(s) signed elsewhere:

WR-Emmanuel Arceneaux 	Signed 	        Washington Redskins 	New York Jets

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...By+Team&y=2013
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All the current offseason signed or re-signed:

Washington Redskins

Pos 	Player 	             FA Status 	Previous Team 	        Current Team
TE 	DeAngelo Peterson    Re-signed 	Washington Redskins 	Washington Redskins
DL 	Chigbo Anunoby 	     Signed 	Indianapolis Colts 	Washington Redskins
DL 	Phillip Merling      Signed 	Green Bay Packers 	Washington Redskins
LB 	Ricky Elmore 	     Signed 	Cleveland Browns 	Washington Redskins
DL      Dominique Hamilton   Signed     Oakland Raiders         Washington Redskins
FB      Eric Kettani         Re-signed  Washington Redskins     Washington Redskins
CB      Korey Lindsey        Re-signed  Washington Redskins     Washington Redskins
DB      Devin Holland        Signed     Tampa Bay Bucs          Washington Redskins   

http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/featu...by+Team&y=2013
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Deangelo Peterson - 1/7/2013: Signed a three-year, $1.485 million contract.
2013: $405,000,
2014: $495,000,
2015: $585,000,
2016: Restricted Free Agent

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...ngelo-peterson


^ A three year contract to Peterson indicates something more than a passing fancy. (at least to me it does).

[S.T.real,lights,out]

That Peterson dude is pretty big. Never even heard of him before.

[Skinsinparadise]

I can't think of a better place to spend your money than on your offensive tackles (other than QB). Nothing adds more value to an offense than a tackle that can handle good pass rushers one on one on a regular basis. It frees everything else up.

OK then to my second point why would one of the best LT's in the league be willing to switch to the far less glamorous RT position and switch teams to do it? Be like a team trying to sign Mariano Rivera in his prime with the pitch of look we already got a closer we really like, we want you to sign with us to be the set up guy -- and he weighs that pitch among 8 other offers or so that keeps him as the closer.

[skins2323]

Clady is not an option, ppl need to stop mentioning his name