2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

[2cents]

That's asking an awful lot though. Minnifield is coming off microfracture surgery and a torn ACL, Bernstine tore I think three ligiments against NO and Merriweather's knee was a mess all last year....hoepful yes, but I don't know if we can count on any of those guys.

[Chump Bailey]

That's asking an awful lot though. Minnifield is coming off microfracture surgery and a torn ACL, Bernstine tore I think three ligiments against NO and Merriweather's knee was a mess all last year....hoepful yes, but I don't know if we can count on any of those guys.

You're right. I failed to take into account the injury significance of those players. Crap...

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You're right SIP and I should wipe the egg off my face

We should prioritize the secondary and make Chris Houston our primary target???

[Skinsinparadise]

I could be mistaken, but won't Brown be another cap-freeing move? I like the thought you put into that... good post. I could see a big move at corner or safety. Safety seems a bigger need (unless we lost Hall and Griffin, of course), but they may feel they have a better shot at a starting safety in the 2nd round as opposed to corner.

If I recall Brown's contract doesn't free cap space and actually cost the team some but not much cap space if released after June 1st. The biggie is really Trent Williams who if I recall is owed 14 million, that's the obvious contract to restructure. The way i understand the cap is right now they are just over before restructuring or dumping contracts.

For example if all they did is release D. Hall they'd have instant cap space.

I will say I'd be happy to pick up two 'B-level' corners that are up and coming (Lewis and Williams or somesuch) guys that shown good talent.

Agree. The secondary was so horrible this year. I think they need to sign a player who represents a clear upgrade at CB.

Which reminds me... truly sucks that our top 3 safeties (at least in terms of potential) are all question marks for next year, and will be long after the draft and the majority of FA.

IMO they need to sign a corner and safety, and then use the draft to supplement. IMO every starting player in the secondary is below average for their position. IMO we got a below average strong safety, train wreck for a free safety, slightly below average nickle corner, no true #1 corner, and below average #2 corner. Doesn't seem a shocker that this is arguably the leagues worst secondary. And IMO it doesn't need just some tinkering but some serious attention.

While I agree that the cap limits us for doing a major overhaul IMO it doesn't preclude us from making some serious moves. Last year, they gave major attention to WR while working around the edges with the secondary. I just don't think working around the edges again with the secondary will produce a much different result. And I suspect they will give serious attention to the secondary.

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You're right SIP and I should wipe the egg off my face We should prioritize the secondary and make Chris Houston our primary target???

LOL, no egg wiping needed. I am not saying am right. Just giving an opinion. I could end up wrong. To play devils advocate to what am saying, they do have to maneuver more to get the cap room this year then last and what happens if Hall and moss lets say don't want to restructure and they feel both players are needs, etc.

There are definitely writers who are constantly spelling doom for this cap year. But I presume that's just newspaper writers doing their thing, negativity sells copy, plus its the easy story when it comes to the cap. The reason why I suspect that the skins will be more aggressive than some think is its really been their drill for better or worse since Shanny took over. If they see a problem they tackle it aggressively. The first year it was QB. 2nd year -- getting 3-4 defenders on the D line. 3rd year QB-WR. This year the obvious target seems to be CB.

In Shanny's book he talked about how he attacks a position or two to upgrade his roster every year. Granted not easy with the cap problem but they had a similar problem last year. I do think it precludes them from a break the bank star. But I do think they can figure out a way to sign a guy or two like: Quinn, C Williams, C. Houston, K. Phillips, etc. Shanny seems too ambitious to me, especially now that the team looks like a contender, to just tinker with this secondary. But will see. Again just my opinion, I could be wrong.

[SemperFi Skins]

We should prioritize the secondary and make Chris Houston our primary target???

Or Keenan Lewis...

[Skinsinparadise]

We should prioritize the secondary and make Chris Houston our primary target???

Could be Houston. Reason why I bring him up is while I have no idea whether they like him or not, he fits the typical free agent criteria. He's in his 20s. He's a player on the rise. And he's likely B level contract wise. In those terms similar to successful free agent corner signings of late by other teams like Finnegan, Carr, and Joseph. Maybe Derek Cox he's a young and emerging guy albiet injury prone.

For safety, Kenny Phillips would fit that criteria though I wonder about his injury history. Louis Delmas same story as Phillips. Maybe Glover Quin. Patrick Chung?

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Or Keenan Lewis...

good one, young and emerging, I doubt hes a break the bank FA

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...n-keenan-lewis

[SemperFi Skins]

good one, young and emerging, I doubt hes a break the bank FA

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com...n-keenan-lewis

Go back through the thread and you'll see we've been talking about him for a while... He should be the top target on day 1

[terpskins10]

I'd like to see us bring in Ryan Mundy. Low cost, good experience, and relatively young.

[Darth Tater]

If I recall Brown's contract doesn't free cap space and actually cost the team some but not much cap space if released after June 1st.

Cutting Brown now reduces our total cap by about $1M. Waiting till June 1 would reduce 2013 cap hit by about $3M but would increase future cap hit by about $2M.

[SemperFi Skins]

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Can't find any cut ups on Keenan Lewis, Shaun Cody, or Chris Houston to show.

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[rk3025]

Trent William's cap cost drops from $14 Million to $8 this year due to signing bonus.

[SemperFi Skins]

Got another one for ya fellas'. Lets bring some Redskins household name back... You want a dual-threat QB? Clinton Portis's cousin...

JOSH PORTIS - 6'4, 217

Josh Portis (born July 14, 1987) is an American football quarterback formerly on the practice squad of the Seattle Seahawks of the National Football League. He was signed by the Seahawks as an undrafted free agent in 2011. He was highly touted as one of the nation's top dual-threat quarterback prospects out of high school. Portis attended the University of Florida for one season and then transferred to the University of Maryland. In 2009, he transferred again to Division II California University of Pennsylvania, where he set school records with 3,421 passing yards, 36 touchdowns and 3,870 total offensive yards.

Portis was signed by the Seattle Seahawks as an undrafted free agent following the 2011 NFL Draft on July 26, 2011. He made the Seahawks roster on September 3 behind starter Tarvaris Jackson. On August 11, 2011, against the Chargers, he went 5 for 6 for 69 yards and 1 TD in a preseason win. Portis was cut by the Seahawks on August 31, 2012 and signed to their practice squad on September 1, 2012 [18] .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Portis

Seahawks coaches were generally high on Portis since he joined the team as an undrafted free agent in 2011. Pete Carroll even claimed that he would have been a 4th round pick had he been in the 2012 draft class.

Because of the 3-way QB competition that did not include Portis during training camp, he received almost no reps in practice, and did not play in the preseason until week 3. He then proceeded to play poorly in his limited time on the field, presumably because of his lack of practice time.

WR Phil Bates was brought back to the practice squad in his place.

Portis will likely be back. The Seahawks churn the practice squad quite liberally, choosing to use it to help the scout team show specific matchup issues. Portis’s main contribution at the Seahawks over the last 2 seasons have been to help the defense prepare for playing against highly mobile QBs. With the Seahawks taking on Jay cutler and Bears this week, this wasn’t

[martytheman]

You're right. I failed to take into account the injury significance of those players. Crap...

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You're right SIP and I should wipe the egg off my face

We should prioritize the secondary and make Chris Houston our primary target???

Not to mention the fact that Jackson is out until August... people want to roll w him but he will basically be coming in off the street at the seasons start... and everyone here wants to put their eggs in THAT basket... no thanks

[SemperFi Skins]

DC9, I think we should add Louis Delmas to the Safety section. 25 years old, currently salary is $973,200. Coming off injury but makes a huge impact on the field... Definitely more attainable than the other Safeties in the FA class.

http://www.detroitlions.com/news/lio...d-b9d7b70502ed

Really good read on Delmas and his passion for the game...

[Skinsinparadise]

Cutting Brown now reduces our total cap by about $1M. Waiting till June 1 would reduce 2013 cap hit by about $3M but would increase future cap hit by about $2M.

There remains $4.4 million of guaranteed bonus money on Brown’s deal, according to a source with knowledge of the contract. That’s a lot for a 31-year-old lineman who is now out indefinitely with two ailing hips. Of course, at the time the Redskins agreed to terms with Brown, they expected to have $36 million more salary cap space than they have now.
Brown is scheduled to count $4.553 million against the salary cap in 2012, but he would count only $1.1 million if the Redskins released him before this season. That’s $3.453 million in cap savings.
In that scenario, however, Brown’s remaining $3.3 million in bonus money would count against the Redskins’ cap in 2013, a season in which they are scheduled to absorb an $18 million penalty.
The $3.3 million hit in 2013 also would apply if the Redskins placed Brown on injured reserve before this season and released him any time before June 1, 2013. It also would apply if Brown retired.
If the Redskins waited until after June 1, 2013 to release Brown, he’d count $1.1 million against the 2013 cap and $2.2 million against 2014. That scenario could be attractive because the Redskins’ salary cap penalties expire in 2013.
As the Redskins decide what to do with Brown, they must consider whether they need the $3.453 million of 2012 cap space they’d save by releasing him. Any remaining free agents or players cut in September wouldn’t be expensive additions.
Another option: Washington could keep Brown and his $4.553 million cap number on the roster all season, see if he could get healthy, decide on his status after next June 1 and possibly save $1.1 million on their penalty-reduced 2013 cap. And if Brown were to get healthy (a seemingly unlikely scenario since he hasn’t been healthy since his hip surgery in 2009), then the Redskins have a backup tackle.


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[Darth Tater]

There remains $4.4 million of guaranteed bonus money on Brown’s deal, according to a source with knowledge of the contract. That’s a lot for a 31-year-old lineman who is now out indefinitely with two ailing hips. Of course, at the time the Redskins agreed to terms with Brown, they expected to have $36 million more salary cap space than they have now.
Brown is scheduled to count $4.553 million against the salary cap in 2012, but he would count only $1.1 million if the Redskins released him before this season. That’s $3.453 million in cap savings.
In that scenario, however, Brown’s remaining $3.3 million in bonus money would count against the Redskins’ cap in 2013, a season in which they are scheduled to absorb an $18 million penalty.
The $3.3 million hit in 2013 also would apply if the Redskins placed Brown on injured reserve before this season and released him any time before June 1, 2013. It also would apply if Brown retired.
If the Redskins waited until after June 1, 2013 to release Brown, he’d count $1.1 million against the 2013 cap and $2.2 million against 2014. That scenario could be attractive because the Redskins’ salary cap penalties expire in 2013.
As the Redskins decide what to do with Brown, they must consider whether they need the $3.453 million of 2012 cap space they’d save by releasing him. Any remaining free agents or players cut in September wouldn’t be expensive additions.
Another option: Washington could keep Brown and his $4.553 million cap number on the roster all season, see if he could get healthy, decide on his status after next June 1 and possibly save $1.1 million on their penalty-reduced 2013 cap. And if Brown were to get healthy (a seemingly unlikely scenario since he hasn’t been healthy since his hip surgery in 2009), then the Redskins have a backup tackle.


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Yes, and these figures include that.