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Thread: 2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

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    Redskins | Met with two DB prospects
    Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:23:11 -0800

    Southeastern Louisiana CB Robert Alford and Georgia CB Sanders Commings were among the players that talked with Washington Redskins scouts at the Senior Bowl Tuesday, Jan. 22.


    Read more: http://kffl.com/hotw/NFL?page=2#ixzz2IugUCNHM

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    Redskins | Re-signing Darrel Young expected to be priority

    The Washington Redskins are expected to see re-signing restricted free-agent FB Darrel Young as a priority this offseason.

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    Wanted to drop a few more names who could be on our radar, but under the radar and would come cheap...

    Vaughn Martin -
    26 years old
    6'4, 308

    Vaughn was the starting right DE before he had a groin injury and went down for the 2012 season... Chargers replaced him with Kendall Reyes. With the coaching change, he will most likely not be retained... He is a leader on the Chargers defense, teammates love him.

    Stout against the run and can rush the passer. I'd consider him an upgrade over Jenkins for sure. Highly unlikely he'd come here to start behind Bowen though.

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    Louis Murphy -
    25 years old
    6'3, 203

    Track speed but just hasn't put it all together for the Raiders that drafted him and then he was quiet after he was traded to the Panthers. DraftScouts had him as a projected 1-2 rounder but he ended up going in the 4th to Oakland.

    Not sure we have a place for him, but his speed and youth are enticing and you'd like to see a guy like this come cheap, and turn it around.[
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    Quote Originally Posted by SemperFi Skins View Post
    Louis Murphy -
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    Track speed but just hasn't put it all together for the Raiders that drafted him and then he was quiet after he was traded to the Panthers. DraftScouts had him as a projected 1-2 rounder but he ended up going in the 4th to Oakland.

    Not sure we have a place for him, but his speed and youth are enticing and you'd like to see a guy like this come cheap, and turn it around.[
    Murphy is so intriguing to me because he was such a good college player. I don't know if it's routes that he's had trouble with or just bad situations. The Raiders really haven't had a quarterback in a while and Newton had a slow start to this season. But I wouldn't be against him or Barden, but to me, you can only pick one to come in.

    Just out of curiosity, which would you rather have SemperFi?
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    In my opinion, the only true need this team has right now (aside from our own free agents) is free safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GibbsFactor View Post
    In my opinion, the only true need this team has right now (aside from our own free agents) is free safety.
    IMO RT is a major major need...maybe even more than FS..

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.T.real,lights,out View Post
    IMO RT is a major major need...maybe even more than FS..
    I think FS is a bigger priority but RT right after. I wonder though how desperate the team feels that about RT -- can't recall if it was Paulson or Russell or someone else but one of the Redskins reporters towards the end of the season seem to imply the team was happy with Polombus and felt he progressed as the season went on. Maybe that was a smokescreen, who knows. Conversely, can't recall any complements thrown M. Williams way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DC9 View Post
    Murphy is so intriguing to me because he was such a good college player. I don't know if it's routes that he's had trouble with or just bad situations. The Raiders really haven't had a quarterback in a while and Newton had a slow start to this season. But I wouldn't be against him or Barden, but to me, you can only pick one to come in.

    Just out of curiosity, which would you rather have SemperFi?
    I look at it this way... They are two totally separate players that file completely different roles in the WR pool.

    Louis Murphy is widely known for his speed, and that may be the reason for his 15.2 yards per catch average... He's dropped off a ton and had a quiet year but he's young and can certianly build upon it. May have just been the scheme. Oakland didn't have Cam Newton/Steve Smith like Carolina.

    You have to compare his 4.43 speed to the 4.68 of Barden...

    Murphy is the deep threat who takes the top off of the secondary. We have a high speed offense.

    Barden is also a deep threat and red zone threat with his 6'6 height but i feel like there's a reason why he has not contributed as much as possible. Does he run crisp routes? Can he break through coverage? These are things I'd need to know...

    Lastly, what do these two provide that we don't already have? Barden's height is invaluable but we've tried the whole "big guy" approach before and in this offense it may not be necessary.

    I like Louis Murphy with his speed and abiliy to take off the top... but Garcon, Moss, and Robinson also provide that....

    Personalluy, I take Murphy in this offense with the speed if I had to pick between the two...

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    2014 mock draft from Walterfootball.com shows the Rams with the Redskins' pick at 32..now to follow that up

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2014_1.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsinparadise View Post
    I think FS is a bigger priority but RT right after. I wonder though how desperate the team feels that about RT -- can't recall if it was Paulson or Russell or someone else but one of the Redskins reporters towards the end of the season seem to imply the team was happy with Polombus and felt he progressed as the season went on. Maybe that was a smokescreen, who knows. Conversely, can't recall any complements thrown M. Williams way.
    Something should have been thrown M. Williams' way, but it sure ain't compliments.....
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    Couple Notes:

    Carriker is expected to be back from his quad injury in time for 2013 season
    Bowen is not going to undergoe surgery for his tricep tear and instead says it will heal naturally (something to watch for)
    Josh Morgan had ankle surgery a few days ago. Should be ready for the season.
    Garcon is deciding whether or not to have surgery on his foot (something to watch for, remember Landry...)
    DeAngelo Hall had surgery on Tuesday to fix a fractured right pinkie...

    ---------- Post added January-24th-2013 at 05:44 PM ----------

    Packers are looking more likely that they will release Jermichael Finley, TE.

    He is due $4.45 mil in 2013. Freddy D made $5.45 mil on the tag in 2012.

    Question is, would you take a healthy Finley over a questionable Freddy D. who may want more money?

    To add to this, it looks like the Dolphins are looking to pick up Finley is he is released, meaning Fasano would then be on the chopping block.

    Something to keep an eye on...

    Also, Dustin Keller, will most certainly not be back with the Jets.

    ---------- Post added January-24th-2013 at 05:49 PM ----------

    Some notes on Fasano if he is released:

    Still, there are plenty who can be proud of their performances. Take Anthony Fasano for example, who went the entire year without dropping a single pass. He may not excite a fanbase like some other tight ends, but he’s once again proven to be a reliable weapon for his quarterback.

    He was the only tight end not to drop a pass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post
    Sorry to offend you, dg, I certainly didn't mean to. I enjoy your posting, so there's no way I can call it "awful". I said you have an awful habit of nit picking to the point where the purpose gets lost and I've seen that many times from you. That doesn't mean you are generally awful, and I shouldn't have worded it as harshly as I did.

    Also, if you don't mind me saying, I think you'd be served well if you'd use the smilies a bit more (I don't think you use them at all) because some times the tone of your posts come off as bitter and condescending. I'm sure it's not your intent, but it does, hence the "why so angry" post from skinsfan4128. I know you a little bit since I enjoy a lot of what you post and, thus, I don't get as offended, but others read your text and it comes off as dry. Just some advice.
    I'm not offended. But for whatever reason it appears you are offended.
    If you feel I'm the bad guy so be it, but again that is not my intent. I'm easy breezy. I try to post as I would talk to a guy sitting next to me at a sports bar. No bitterness or condescenion here, (no simlies either btw). I'm just a guy that loves to talk Burgundy and Gold football.

    Quote Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post
    I also stated pretty clearly I'm not trying to simply draft BPA for the sake of it. That wasn't my argument. It's only with the condition of having addressed our major needs in the secondary via Free Agency and I only posed it as a question as to what point do we say we have the type of depth where we can afford to go BPA?
    Did you ever stop to think that perhaps you weren't as clear as you thought?

    Look below:
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    My question is, with the depth assembled on our roster and our ability to win the NFC East even with some of the holes we have, does it afford us the ability to go completely BPA in the draft now?
    The scenario above doesn't read to me that all our major needs have been addressed in FA. It reads just as it asks to me: can we go BPA because the team we currently have is good enough to win the NFC East despite the holes?

    My answer to your question remains the same: No.

    Now, if you mean all our major needs are addressed through FA then of course we should draft BPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    I'm not offended. But for whatever reason it appears you are offended.
    If you feel I'm the bad guy so be it, but again that is not my intent. I'm easy breezy. I try to post as I would talk to a guy sitting next to me at a sports bar. No bitterness or condescenion here, (no simlies either btw). I'm just a guy that loves to talk Burgundy and Gold football.
    Nope, not offended at all. Everything else sounds good. Smilie included.

    Did you ever stop to think that perhaps you weren't as clear as you thought?

    Look below:
    The scenario above doesn't read to me that all our major needs have been addressed in FA. It reads just as it asks to me: can we go BPA because the team we currently have is good enough to win the NFC East despite the holes?

    My answer to your question remains the same: No.

    Now, if you mean all our major needs are addressed through FA then of course we should draft BPA.
    Ok, I'm SLIGHTLY offended here, lol. The reason? Because you posted that quote from me without quoting the entire post... very sneaky. Here's what I said in it's entirety:

    Quote Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post
    My question is, with the depth assembled on our roster and our ability to win the NFC East even with some of the holes we have, does it afford us the ability to go completely BPA in the draft now?

    I think so. I think Free Agency will determine that as well. If we get ourselves either a stud CB and a starting Safety or a stud Safety and a starting CB via FA, I think it behooves us to simply go BPA in the draft, PERIOD, even if the best player on the board is a WR.
    What I want to know is how you went and quoted me on that question while skipping the part where I answered it and gave my opinion on it while having the audacity to say I wasn't being clear?

    You're saying "the scenario above doesn't read to me that all our major needs have been addressed in FA..." while conveniently omitting the answer I gave to my own question not one line under it!

    So I answered the question posed with IF we address our major needs (which is DB in my opinion) through Free Agency then we should go BPA, which is pretty much what you're saying (except I don't know if you consider other positions as major needs).

    Either way, that was unfair of you to only quote me on the question I posed as if that's all I had said. I think I was being pretty clear, don't you? I hope you get why I said earlier that you have a bad habit of nit picking. You totally nit picked my question there as if that's all I had said.
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    "I knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. One thing I told Dan Snyder was: ‘If you don't plan on me being here for five years to do this the right way, then you shouldn't hire Mike Shanahan. But I'm going to do it the right way... But if you're going to ask me to take shortcuts, I'm not going to take shortcuts. I'm going to do it the right way.' And he said he would. And when we do have this thing turned around, people will see it, and say, ‘Oh my God, that's the way you do it.' "

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    Sneaky?

    Sneaky is asking a question then getting upset when someone reponds to your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darrelgreenie View Post
    Sneaky?

    Sneaky is asking a question then getting upset when someone reponds to your question.
    Whaaa!? First off, I'm not upset. Secondly, you didn't only answer the question, you disagreed with me when there was no disagreement had you just read my answer to the question itself.

    This is exactly what I really didn't feel like having to go through!

    I guess you weren't being sneaky... but, still, all you had to do was just read one line under the question I posed to see how I answered it. I'm shocked you quoted that question and cut out the part where it answers your issue with it, that's all. You don't see how that would come off as a sly maneuver?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Shanahan
    "I knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. One thing I told Dan Snyder was: ‘If you don't plan on me being here for five years to do this the right way, then you shouldn't hire Mike Shanahan. But I'm going to do it the right way... But if you're going to ask me to take shortcuts, I'm not going to take shortcuts. I'm going to do it the right way.' And he said he would. And when we do have this thing turned around, people will see it, and say, ‘Oh my God, that's the way you do it.' "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsinparadise View Post
    I think FS is a bigger priority but RT right after. I wonder though how desperate the team feels that about RT -- can't recall if it was Paulson or Russell or someone else but one of the Redskins reporters towards the end of the season seem to imply the team was happy with Polombus and felt he progressed as the season went on. Maybe that was a smokescreen, who knows. Conversely, can't recall any complements thrown M. Williams way.
    Personally, I'm a guy that favors building inside out. So for me personally, like you I would have RT as a priority. However; when you look out the production of the offense as unit (4th in scoring/5th in yards) despite below average RT play from Polumbus, I could see how RT might not be a high priority for the FO to commit our limited resources to address. Also, another factor to consider is the ease of upgrading from Polumbus. Tyler, bless his heart, was terrible. It wouldn't be out of the realm to upgrade from him easily through FA or middle round draft pick. Heck, I thought Compton was better then Polumbus during preseason.

    On the flip side, all signs point to SAF class being deep. So maybe you can grab a RT in the second and still nab a starting caliber SAF in the 3rd round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesubmittedone View Post
    I guess you weren't being sneaky... but, still, all you had to do was just read one line under the question I posed to see how I answered it. I'm shocked you quoted that question and cut out the part where it answers your issue with it, that's all. You don't see how that would come off as a sly maneuver?
    Not at all.
    Because when I ask a question I'm actually looking for a answer/response to the question. I wouldn't expect a response to the answer to my own question.

    But, I've had enough. I guess I'm some awful, semantical, sneaky, sly poster.
    So with that out of the way....I don't know maybe..... you at some point would I don't know....actually want to talk football?
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