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Thread: 2013 FA Thread (Updates on OP) New: Merling, Brace, Pashos, Trueblood, EJBig, Tapp, White, Williams, MATTHEWS; Re-up: Rex, Hall, Davis, Paulsen, DY, RJax, Lich, Sundberg, Baker, Sav, Golston, Kehl, Polumbus; Paycuts: Carriker, Moss, BMeri, J. Wilson

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    There has been some confusion regarding the actual salary cap for 2012. We’ve confirmed via two sources that the team-by-team spending limit is and will be $123 million.

    In addition to the $3.936 billion in total spending allotment in 2013, another $200 million in cap space has been carried over from past years.

    This pushes the total potential cap space this year to more than $4.1 billion.

    Teams can (and do) spend more cash than their cap limit. But those dollars count against future caps. With this year’s limit increasing over last year’s by only 1.9 percent, teams need to be careful about robbing Peter to pay Paul.

    One of these days, someone is gonna rob Paul to pay Peter.
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    Word Is #Redskins LB-London Fletcher is leaning toward retirement.Skins would have a difficult time keeping him without salary cap relief.

    https://twitter.com/HTTR24_7/status/307344567345221632


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    London's $6.5 million could go to keep Alexander & *Jackson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STBonecrusher21 View Post
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    Word Is #Redskins LB-London Fletcher is leaning toward retirement.Skins would have a difficult time keeping him without salary cap relief.

    https://twitter.com/HTTR24_7/status/307344567345221632


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    London's $6.5 million could go to keep Alexander & *Jackson.
    You know as much as I would hate to lose London I kind of think retirement is the right move for him whatever our cap situation. He had lost a step last year even before he had the injury issues that he somehow managed to play through. I'd hate to see him play a year to many and our last memory of him be a guy who is a shadow of what he was. That's what happened to Ray Lewis IMO even if he did go out with another ring.

    Better a year too soon than a year too late.

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    I would hate to see Fletcher go but he is going to have to hang it up at some point and as Martin said better a year early than a year late .

    I am guessing his hit this year would be $2.6 million - (though I am not sure how the garunteed part works with retirement) ... if he did hang it up tomorrow would we then be under the cap ?

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    I don't want to imagine how much worse our defense will be without Fletcher. It played well in the second half of the season when it began to play with some/any emotion, but I wonder if it can carry that over without its cornerstone there. I suppose it's going to have to. Pretty depressing how much we're losing in one offseason because of Mara; it's like we were just in the Super Bowl or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bacon View Post
    I don't want to imagine how much worse our defense will be without Fletcher.
    I know this approaches heresy but it might actually get better without him if a younger guy steps into that spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinC View Post
    I know this approaches heresy but it might actually get better without him if a younger guy steps into that spot.
    I wonder who that guy is? Keenan Robinson is coming off of the same injury that Orkapo did and quickly re-injured. I guess Alexander if he resigned, special teams days might be over? I think London is a big loss, yeah he started slow, and look how bad the defense was without London playing his best -- then coincidentally he was very good down the home stretch when they went on a roll.

    I recall right before when Merriweather got his first start Chris Russell from 980 suggesting something to the effect that they need the guy partly because of his personality can provide a spark. Actually Merriweather himself suggested it. This defense strangely doesn't seem to have fiery personalities. They seem to have a lot of quiet guys. Was listening to Ryan Kerrigan in an interview where it seemed clear that he is too shy to say anything to the refs when he's being held on plays. London by a mile seemed to be the guy who can fire up the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bedlamVR View Post
    I would hate to see Fletcher go but he is going to have to hang it up at some point and as Martin said better a year early than a year late .

    I am guessing his hit this year would be $2.6 million - (though I am not sure how the garunteed part works with retirement) ... if he did hang it up tomorrow would we then be under the cap ?
    I believe the Redskins save $5.5 million if Fletcher retires or is released.

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    I just rewatched Shanny's interview with Larry on Redskins.com -- yeah to me he gives a London might go vibe. The line about once you started talking about retirement...often players do retire. Personally, I think its a huge blow. I don't see an obvious replacement in FA. Keenan Robinson has little experience and is coming off of a major injury. Alexander hasn't been a full time starter and at 30, he's not the future. And who becomes the motivational leader on defense -- i guess Orkapo if he can stay healthy, Cofield?
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    quiet night on the rotoworld.com front:

    The Charlotte Observer's Joe Person says the Panthers "will cut" NT Ron Edwards.
    Carolina is currently around $9 million over the cap, and releasing Edwards would clear about $2.5 million. The Panthers want to re-sign Dwan Edwards, and they will look to replace Ron through either the draft or free agency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lavarleap56 View Post
    I believe the Redskins save $5.5 million if Fletcher retires or is released.
    that's a dramatic amount of money. And I agree with you guys that the first thing that came to mind was Zo and RJax.

    People can say all they want about Riley and Keenan not being ready to call the defense, but he will get better with reps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsinparadise View Post
    I wonder who that guy is? Keenan Robinson is coming off of the same injury that Orkapo did and quickly re-injured. I guess Alexander if he resigned, special teams days might be over? I think London is a big loss, yeah he started slow, and look how bad the defense was without London playing his best -- then coincidentally he was very good down the home stretch when they went on a roll.

    I recall right before when Merriweather got his first start Chris Russell from 980 suggesting something to the effect that they need the guy partly because of his personality can provide a spark. Actually Merriweather himself suggested it. This defense strangely doesn't seem to have fiery personalities. They seem to have a lot of quiet guys. Was listening to Ryan Kerrigan in an interview where it seemed clear that he is too shy to say anything to the refs when he's being held on plays. London by a mile seemed to be the guy who can fire up the team.
    D'Angelo Hall would beg to differ. But he gets ripped for being too "fiery" or fiery at all the wrong times.

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    I think resigning Zo for any significant sum of money is a mistake. He has limitations as a linebacker. The positives he brings are important. He hits like a truck. He's smart. He's a leader. But he's a bit on the slow side. I'm not big on him as an inside backer except as a backup, to be honest. And I doubt he wants back up money.
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    I love London, BUT if you can resign Lorenzo AND Rob Jackson for the same price as London, then I am sorry but I think I would have to take those 2 over London at this point. I am also interested to see if Rob Jackson could play some ILB too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skinsinparadise View Post
    And who becomes the motivational leader on defense -- i guess Orkapo if he can stay healthy, Cofield?
    I played high level sports and my feeling is the whole 'veteran motivational leader' thing is overblown by fans. I'm not saying its not real - but in my opinion its not nearly as important as we as fans and the media portray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDawg View Post
    And I doubt he wants back up money.
    He is a backup - apart from his important role on special teams his main value to us his ability to backup all 4 linebacker spots. So he should be paid as a backup. If he can find another team to pay him starter money good luck to him and I genuinely wish him well but I cant see us paying him like that.
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    If you save $5.5 million from London's retirement, I don't think you'll be paying Jackson and Zo that much. Rob Jackson's tender is just $2 million ... I would imagine the team would ink him to a longer-term deal that would be lower than the tender .... but let's go with $2 million. Also, Lorenzo can't be asking for too much ... but if you get him to sign off on a 2-3 year deal you can probably get him in at around $1.5 million. You'd still have $2 mill. left over to go elsewhere.

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