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    Quote Originally Posted by DeMarco Murray 29 View Post
    @rickgosselinDMN: No commitment to run game so you fire RB coach. No healthy bodies on D so you fire the coordinator. The real problems need to be addressed.
    The thing no one is talking about: Jerry Jones is drifting into Al Davis Crazyland.

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    Their pass rush is going to suffer big time with the switch.

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    I think the front 7 can adjust. It's their defensive backfield that will get burned a lot still. If they got Lovie, then I would of taken this seriously. Monte is older and I don't think this will work for them in my opinion.
    Yeah the safety play will be critical and that is where they will be weak for the Tampa-2 scheme. Front 7 is fine and I even say the CBs are good for it but they need some better safeties to really pull it off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riggo#44 View Post
    The thing no one is talking about: Jerry Jones is drifting into Al Davis Crazyland.

    Get ready for Vinny Cerrato level trades.
    Now I'm starting to wonder if Vinny is working as a consultant down in Jerry Land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Sinister View Post
    Their pass rush is going to suffer big time with the switch.
    What pass rush? They had 34 sacks this year. 2.1 sacks/game.

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    Hasn't it been more than 5 minutes since he was fired? Just sayin'.

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    What his defences were fine against the college crap. It was the pro stuff they couldn't handle

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    Won't the Tampa 2 make them vulnerable to the run? Can't wait for Rob and Morris to test that out. Hopefully twice on a primetime stage again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riggo#44 View Post
    The thing no one is talking about: Jerry Jones is drifting into Al Davis Crazyland.

    Get ready for Vinny Cerrato level trades.
    You make it sound like these are bad things.
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    Hasn't it been more than 5 minutes since he was fired? Just sayin'.
    Ram's DC, done deal apparently.

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    I don't understand people mentioning the safety play. Tampa never had a great cover safety that I can recall. Lynch was an SS who would lay you out but he was no Sean Taylor in coverage.

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    Won't the Tampa 2 make them vulnerable to the run? Can't wait for Rob and Morris to test that out. Hopefully twice on a primetime stage again.
    It won't be a Tampa 2 from what they're saying. It's more of a multiple formation 4-3. Carr/Claiborne will be in more man than in zone defenses.

    I am excited for the 4-3. We will have more aggresive pass rushers attacking the QB in Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher, Crawford etc. No more Marcus Spears and Kenyon Coleman rushing the QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeMarco Murray 29 View Post
    It won't be a Tampa 2 from what they're saying. It's more of a multiple formation 4-3. Carr/Claiborne will be in more man than in zone defenses.

    I am excited for the 4-3. We will have more aggresive pass rushers attacking the QB in Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher, Crawford etc. No more Marcus Spears and Kenyon Coleman rushing the QB.

    Even Tampa didnt run the Tampa 2 in all situations. Every defense is a hybrid.

    However, Monte Kiffin is the grandfather of the Tampa 2. You can bet that is going to be on the field quite a bit

    The Tampa 2 relies on having a strong pass rush generated by the 4 down lineman. That is why, even during its heyday, very few teams ran it. And that is why Kiffin has struggled since he parted ways with the group he had in Tampa

    I don't know where this pass rush is going to come from in Dallas. I don't see anyone on their team who will be a threat on a four man front. Where will Ware fit in? He has 0 coverage skills, so that will rule out OLB. He doesn't have the strength to play DE on a 4 man front. If Dallas is smart they will trade him this offseason for players they need to run the new system, otherwise they're going to be tying up his enormous cap number on a situational pass rusher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoony View Post
    Even Tampa didnt run the Tampa 2 in all situations. Every defense is a hybrid.

    However, Monte Kiffin is the grandfather of the Tampa 2. You can bet that is going to be on the field quite a bit

    The Tampa 2 relies on having a strong pass rush generated by the 4 down lineman. That is why, even during its heyday, very few teams ran it. And that is why Kiffin has struggled since he parted ways with the group he had in Tampa

    I don't know where this pass rush is going to come from in Dallas. I don't see anyone on their team who will be a threat on a four man front. Where will Ware fit in? He has 0 coverage skills, so that will rule out OLB. He doesn't have the strength to play DE on a 4 man front. If Dallas is smart they will trade him this offseason for players they need to run the new system, otherwise they're going to be tying up his enormous cap number on a situational pass rusher.
    If the plan is a rebuild, why hire a guy who's 72 years old to be DC?

    You know what, nevermind just keep doing what you're doing, Dallas.
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    I went into a coma for most of the 2012 season. Other Cowboys fans that I am friends with kept trying to persuade me that somehow this year is going to be different, that there was something magical going on with all of these comeback wins. I simply asked them, who is the GM of the Dallas Cowboys? That was my response for why the Cowboys haven't changed a bit. Jerruh is a senile two-bit snake oil salesman that needs to be put out of his misery. I tweeted to all of my Cowboys buddies, "Stop drinking Jerruh's snake oil, fool!" I no longer get all worked up when there's a coaching change or some splashy move is made in free agency or the draft.

    Classic example: Jerruh got a lot of love from the media for acquiring Brandon Carr and trading up in last year's draft to get Claiborne. Fixing the secondary was supposed to be the key to making Ryan's defense work. And now a few months later, the Cowboys organization are playing up this notion about having doubts about Ryan all along and that they have been contemplating switching their defensive philosophy when they learned that Kiffin was returning to the NFL. So, assuming that this is true (which it isn't, it's all a bunch of nonsense), if they knew they were going to switch defensive styles, they're sitting there in the draft where they could have drafted Mark Barron or stay right where they are and take Brockers, both of whom would have been great players for a Tampa 2 style defense.

    As I said, it's all a bunch of nonsense. The Cowboys organization has been run into the ground by a stupid, senile, arrogant man and no one in that organization will man up and put that chump in his proper place (an asylum).

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