I think the OP meant to link this WaPo article: Robert Griffin III faces surgery for torn knee ligament, possible lengthy rehabilitation.
more at above link.By Mike Jones, Mark Maske and Dave Sheinin, Tuesday, January 8, 5:27 PM
Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III has a torn lateral collateral ligament in his right knee and will undergo surgery in coming days, a person familiar with Griffin’s condition said Tuesday night.
Damage to that ligament could mean a lengthy rehabilitation that might jeopardize the star rookie quarterback’s chances of being ready for the start of the 2013 season in September and could keep him sidelined even longer, according to two experts.
When they perform the surgery, doctors also will determine whether a second ligament, Griffin’s anterior cruciate, has been damaged as well, according to the person familiar with Griffin’s case, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.
Griffin was examined Tuesday outside Pensacola, Fla., by orthopedic surgeon James Andrews. The Washington Post reported Monday that an initial MRI exam of Griffin’s knee showed possible tears of the two ligaments. Coach Mike Shanahan said at a news conference Monday that the test was inconclusive and that Griffin would see Andrews to determine whether those results reflected new injuries or previous ones.
James C. Dreese, a doctor for University of Maryland athletic teams, said an LCL tear requires a longer rehabilitation process than an ACL tear. Dreese, who has no specific knowledge of Griffin’s injury, said an LCL tear could keep Griffin out for eight to 12 months.
The length of the rehabilitation depends on whether the ligament can be repaired surgically or requires a more extensive reconstruction using a graft from another part of the body or a cadaver. An ACL typically requires a six- to eight-month rehabilitation.
“When the collateral ligaments are involved,” Dreese said, “the concern in the long term is that controlling the rotational component of the knee can be more difficult.”
Dreese also said LCL tears are usually accompanied by injuries to one of the cruciate ligaments — the ACL or PCL (posterior cruciate ligament). However, he said if there is an ACL tear, in addition to the LCL tear, it would not necessarily lengthen Griffin’s rehab.
Last edited by s0crates; January-8th-2013 at 09:08 PM.
The press asked a Redskins executive about the salary cap penalty and the executive responded, "Ask John Mara." So the press asked Mara and he said, “What they did was in violation of the spirit of the salary cap. "
Oh I see now, even though there was no actual salary cap in 2010 according to the CBA, the "spirit" of the salary cap still existed. Thanks for clearing that up Mara.
Opening day he will be ready
My hunch is that his knee is a mess, with all sorts of partial tears in addition to the full LCL tear. This is based on nothing but conjecture, and just my impression based on tons of conflicting reports, and the fact that the team wanted second opinions. Usually second opinions are sought when the first one is bad news, and doctors rarely mis-diagnose things (sometimes, yes, but not often). I also believe the reports that the MRI results are confusing, based on his previous ACL reconstruction at Baylor. I don't think we'll really know exactly what has to be fixed until after Griffin's surgery, when the doctors announce what they found and what they fixed.
What really saddens me is that this is Griffin's second reconstructive operation on that same knee. You can't do reconstructive surgeries forever. Griffin had his first one in college and came back brilliantly. Adrian Peterson had his first one, and came back brilliantly. This will be Griffin's second one. If, God forbid, there was ever a need for a third, I don't think his career could continue. It's sort of like 3 strikes and you're out (yes, not always, but usually), and Griffin just took a second strike. And with each successive surgery, it gets harder to make a full recovery. And while a ACL tear is serious, a LCL tear, like Griffin has, is even more serious, with a longer recovery time.
I'm not trying to be pessimistic, but realistic. I am sure Shanahan feels awful and I don't really fault him, as hindsight is 20/20. And I have no doubt that Griffin will work at his rehab harder than any other athlete. We all know how driven he is. And even if he doesn't ever regain his Ferrari-style, straight-line speed, he has so many other gifts that can allow him to be an effective starting QB. If there's any blame to be doled out here, I'll give it to whomever decided that the field conditions on Sunday at FedEx were acceptable. If you're going to invest that much in your starting QB, don't ask him to "man up" and play a playoff game on an ice rink. Honestly, I will be ecstatic if he can just recover to the point where he's a capable, starting NFL pocket passer.
Who knows... time will tell, like it always does. I guess there's no use crying over spilled milk... what's done is done. Here's hoping and praying for a full recovery, whatever that may entail.
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That article is heartbreaking. If that is the case we are looking at Oct or Nov? I wonder if Mike would put him in mid season?
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"Watching RG3 today is like watching Jordan vs. the Blazers years ago. Waiting for him to shrug his shoulders as he runs by cameras." - John Keim, November 22, 2012. Thanksgiving at Dallas
ESPN states could be 4 to 6 months but if both ligaments need to be done we are talking 9-12 Months!!! may not have RGIII for most of season and not at all!!!!!!
Praying it is not that bad!!!!!
Praying for a successful operation and I'm glad that we have the best doctor in the business overseeing everything.
Lot of discussion about 'when he'll be back,' understandably. But he likely will not be the same on the break out runs. 2nd time with the knee and a torn LCL is serious, obviously.
He'll be back. And the organization needs to focus on getting the best 2nd string backup QB they can find.
Still can't believe Robert was allowed to play after then end of the first quarter, but that's moot now.
Last edited by Vesuve; January-8th-2013 at 09:51 PM.
Never. The genetics of his knees are bad. Ive never seen a guy take as many hits where his legs end up folded underneath him akwardly...It happened numerous times before the Ngata hit. IMHO, he will never play a 16 game season in his career.
Do we get any compensatory picks if he cant return? also, whats the chance realistically that he cant return?. Also, what is a qcl, i looked it up i couldnt find anything.. Thanks.
He'll be back before we know it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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